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Love Him or Hate Him, You Don't Know Him: Obama's America, 2016
The Chicago Daily Observer ^ | August 27, 2012 | Daniel J. Kelley

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:21 AM PDT by PBRCat

Obama is a proponent of failed economic policies that have left much of the Third World mired in poverty. Rather than acknowledging that centralized economic planning is a failure, Obama faults America’s industrial might as the cause of economic malaise that has crippled much of Africa. The answer, therefore, is not to abandon the discredited economic policies, but to disable America so as to level the playing field. Once America is bankrupt, Kenyan economic programs are bound to succeed!

As someone who follows politics and current events closely, I thought that I was better informed about Barack Obama’s radicalism than most people. Nevertheless, the new documentary film exposed me to much more information than I had previously been aware of. Obama is not as bad as I thought. Arguably, he is worse, much worse. If you still subscribe to American exceptionalism or believe in American ideals, you need to see this movie with an undecided voter who is persuadable.

In 2008, I was initially disturbed by Obama’s bizarre hero worship of his absentee Kenyan father which sometimes bordered upon pagan idolatry. During the same 2008 campaign, by virtue of reading British newspaper articles, I was aware of the fact that Obama’s father was less of an outstanding academic and renowned economist and more of a violent alcoholic and bigamist. He was also a Marxist who believed that a tax rate of one hundred percent could be justifiable.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2016; antiamericanism; bhofascism; bhosocialism; democrats; elections; fail; israel; marxism; marxistbastard; nobama2012; obama; obamasamerica; obamatruthfile; socialistdemocrats
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If you consider yourself to be a regular Democrat, you also need to oppose Obama’s reelection in November. The incumbent may have found it expedient to masquerade as a Progressive member of the Democratic Party for electoral purposes, but he is not at all a traditional Democrat such as Jefferson, Kennedy or Truman. He is a radical ideologue. As was demonstrated in the healthcare controversy, he is indifferent to the survival of the Democratic Party as a viable political force, provided that his agenda is enacted into law.
1 posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:30 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: PBRCat
Come on, everybody. Romney is our real problem!! Our country can handle another four years of Obama, but could it handle EIGHT years of Romney??

Obama is barely an issue when we have ROMNEY staring us in the face!!

Right?

2 posted on 08/27/2012 10:43:49 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

I’m with you!
Conservatives for Obama! /s


3 posted on 08/27/2012 10:46:23 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: PBRCat

What a lot of conservatives, conservative Republicans and traditional Democrats, not to mention Independents, miss about the Obama/Romney race is that Obama is not your typical garden variety left wing Democrat.

What he is an insidious subversive, an evil menace who really believes America is the new great colonial power, and, as his father opposed the colonial policies of the British in Africa, he opposes the “colonial” policies of America. He is a third world communist with a small “c” in the guise of an America citizen.

He REALLY believes Americans are too cool in summer, too warm in winter, too well fed and too well medicated, when compared with economic third world basket cases like Kenya.

AND he believes that the way to even the road between America and third world countries is to reduce America to their economic and political levels. And THAT is exactly what this monster has been doing all the while he has governed in America. And the movie brings it out VERY well.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: PBRCat

“and bigamist. He was also a Marxist”

Sure, but Obama izz soooo cool ‘n’ stuff, ya know. All the late night talk show hosts luv him, and Chris Matthews got a thrill up his leg, and Obama mentioned Snookie and “Gossip Girl”, so what more does America need?

It’s unbelievable that this country has been so dumbed-down to vote for this clown who is actively destroying the country. By the time (some of) his lemmings figure it out, it will have already been past too late.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 11:09:31 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Apparently the GOP bosses believe it’s already too late. That’s why they’re trying their best to lose the race. Oooops! That’s racist. Meant to say “lose the ELECTION”.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 11:25:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To all my relatives and former friends: Do not contact me if you still love obama.)
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To: ZULU

So you saw the movie?

This is like watching a steam roller bear down on the communist thug.

His wildcard is starting a war in October. Safe bet he’ll do it.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 11:30:03 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ConservativeMind

You are out of your mind.

You would refuse to throw water on a raging fire because you don’t like the color of the bucket.

With a conservative Congress Romney will be no threat.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 11:31:39 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: PBRCat; All

That link appears to be defective. Anyone know where this movies is playing in the Chicago area?


9 posted on 08/27/2012 11:34:06 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob

indeed, many are afflicted with the inability to recognize sarcasm...

There needs to be a 12 step program or something.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 11:37:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: arrogantsob
http://2016themovie.com/theaters/

There is a pull down list by state on that page, select IL and it will show you statewide, hopefully there is one near you. It is worth the time & $$ to see it, even if you already know about most of it.

11 posted on 08/27/2012 11:41:26 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: zzeeman

I have my ticket for tonight!


12 posted on 08/27/2012 11:54:06 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom

I have heard reports of applause after the movie. When my wife and I saw it Friday evening at a Noth end Seattle suburb the theater was a little less than half full. After the movie ended, rather than applause there seemed to be a stunned silence, and about a minute or two before most people even got up to leave. Anyone else have this experience?


13 posted on 08/27/2012 12:02:14 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: PBRCat

The link doesn’t work.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 12:08:02 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: HokieMom

That’s great, I hope that you have a great audience as well!


15 posted on 08/27/2012 12:09:41 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: rickomatic

We heard (and participated in) a lot of applause at the show we saw. I heard on the radio that at some showings, people are leaving in tears and weeping. I suspect that for someone that really didn’t know what has been going on for the past 4 years (and maybe even was a supporter in 2008), when they are confronted with the truth, it may be very saddening (and then they will get angry!).


16 posted on 08/27/2012 12:12:55 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: PA-RIVER

Yes. I saw it on Friday.

I would put NOTHING past this thug.

Hope and pray Israel can put off thier attack on Iran until AFTER the election. It will only help Obama if they are forced to do it before hand, which will, in the long run, hurt them.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 12:16:59 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: rickomatic

I’ve seen this amazing movie twice now - once in Jacksonville FL and the other in an Orlando suburb. Absolutely same experience - no applause at the end of the movie - only stunned silence. This is an extraordinarily powerful indictment of the “real” Obama - the true Manchurian candidate whose past was scrubbed clean so that gullible whites could attribute to him their own individual hopes and aspirations. The movie is beautifully photographed and produced. It is even more powerful coming from Dinesh D’Souza, who grew up in a parallel world to Obama - in an anti-colonial environment. D’Souza decided to change his lot in life by embracing America and its founding principles. Obama decided to change America’s lot. The movie actually portrays Obama in a somewhat sympathetic light. Given the facts that he was abandoned by his father, then abandoned by his mother at very young age, then foisted onto a card-carrying, America-hating black Communist, could we possibly expect him to be God/country/apple pie American? The tragedy is that this man - who did not hide his desire to “transform” America - was allowed to ascend to the highest office in the land with the aid and comfort of the “journalists” and academicians who purport to value “truth” and civic “transparency”. The fact that this story is told from the viewpoint of a fellow, dark-skinned individual who was born the same year, married the same year, and graduated college the same year as Obama is extremely powerful. An American-born caucasian telling this story would bring a hellstorm of “racism” accusations raining down on him. D’Souza’s background cuts this accusation off at its knees.

This movie is a must-see, even for rock-ribbed conservatives who are “tuned in”. We live in a visual world - pictures, TV shows, movies all have immensely greater power and effect than the written or spoken word. And, D’Souza lays out a well-designed and very well documented case - part legal brief and part psychological analysis - that frankly will stun even the most hardened FR veteran. Conservatives have to see this so that we can resist the GOPe’s meme that Obama is “incompetent”. The man is anything but, as the movie demonstrates. Rather, he is uniquely gifted and probably truly brilliant. We on our side need to fully understand that this man is by design destroying the country, because he is fulfilling his life’s mission, namely that “dream from [his] father” that “neocolonialism” should be destroyed - not to benefit the poor but the punish the colonizers. For the longest time, I thought the man was just a poseur, just a puppet dancing to the strings of Soros et al. The movie argues that he is, if not the puppetmaster, an active designer and participant in this nightmare.

You MUST see this movie. See it several times! Take your family, friends, coworkers - pay their way if you must. The $7.50 will be a worthwhile investment to keep the country from hurtling off the tracks to the abyss that Obama has planned for us.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 12:25:14 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: zzeeman

Thanks, I was going to look it up later.

There is ONE theater showing it in Chicago. Is there any surprise I refuse to go to these commie creeps’ theaters?

I will go see it just like I bought the “Newsweek” with The Disaster on the cover.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 12:34:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob
"You would refuse to throw water on a raging fire because you don’t like the color of the bucket."

Don't waste your time on an idiot like that.
Not worth the lectricity to send the response. . . . . .

20 posted on 08/27/2012 12:36:02 PM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I know you are being sarcastic but I just saw this thread, I wonder how many others missed it.

Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist must be destroyed!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920626/posts


21 posted on 08/27/2012 12:37:33 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: MrB

Good sarcasm is not recognized. If that is what the intent was, hats off. Unfortunately, the comments reflect an all-too-common belief around FR.


22 posted on 08/27/2012 12:37:50 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob

There is some significant benefit to seeing 2016 in theatres now. The MSM is besides themselves trying to comprehend how this movie has gone from 1 screen to more than 1,000 with many more to come soon. Note the fixation with gross $ amounts for it.
Much like Chik-fil-A appreciation day, an overwhelming show of support for this movie drives home (not to us, but to the larger culture as a whole) the depth of anti-Obama sentiment and angst out there.
I realize the depravitiy of the entire movie industry - but, in this case, strong attendance that is heavily covered in the general media might help convince others out there to see the movie - I can’t see how anyone who is not a committed Socialist/Marxist can come out of that movie and cast a vote for The Great Destroyer!


23 posted on 08/27/2012 12:41:50 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: F15Eagle

You forgot how cool he is when he does his Al Green riff /s


24 posted on 08/27/2012 12:46:14 PM PDT by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: arrogantsob

The double secret sarcasm of it was that it was making fun of those to whom you refer.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 12:53:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: ConservativeMind

I hope you’re joking?

Maybe you don’t like the jockey, but you have to bet on the horse.

Let’s don’t revisit the kind of idiocy that Republicans handed us because they didn’t like McCain.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 1:01:43 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: rickomatic

Yes, that was the very same reaction at last night’s show in a very red district of Waukesha County. We all sat in silence rather stunned at what we just saw. I have to admit to being rather disturbed for a while afterward.
The gal that went with me was stunned because she is less informed about politics.


27 posted on 08/27/2012 1:21:31 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: PBRCat

I always considered Obama to be Al Sharpton with a Harvard law degree. I’ve come to realize he is much much worse. Haven’t seen the movie yet but definitely will.


28 posted on 08/27/2012 1:21:45 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude
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To: rickomatic

Saw it last night... I thought it was well-done, albeit limited to his thesis about Obama’s anti-colonialism. In this regard it was good. There is still much more about this character that can be exposed. As far as it goes (which is not far enough IMHO) it is a well-documented movie that should scare the bejesus out of anybody who is thinking of keeping this guy in office. There was applause in my half-full theatre. Not bad for a Sunday evening in Pennsylvania. I heard a few “God Bless America’s” thrown in as well.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 1:26:07 PM PDT by folkquest (Nothing is fool-proof because fools are so ingenious!)
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To: Crooked Constituent

I thought the book was way better TBH. The movie was good, but the book is really way better if you want more details on the matter.


30 posted on 08/27/2012 1:34:57 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: nuvista

Oh theyll probably just say D’Souza is a “coconut”, or an “Uncle Tom”, which is basically another way of saying that his skin color should dictate his politics. I know, I know, that is just about as racist an assumption as anything you can imagine, but if you repeat lies long enough and loud enough, plenty of people will start to believe them.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 1:46:28 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: ConservativeMind

Eight years of Romney might equal four years of Obama. Unless the GOP can manage to control the House and the Senate.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 1:49:17 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: patriotsblood

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/love-him-or-hate-him-you-dont-know-him-obamas-america-2016/

I hope that this link works!


33 posted on 08/27/2012 1:49:54 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: arrogantsob

Corrected link:

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/love-him-or-hate-him-you-dont-know-him-obamas-america-2016/

It is playing at many theaters in Chicago currently.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 1:51:11 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: rickomatic

The audience was stunned into silence when the film ended where I watched it too.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:40 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: nuvista
Excellent summation of the key points of the movie.

I have also seen the movie twice -- in Anchorage, Alaska and Sacramento, California. The second time was with my son, daughter-in-law, and one of their friends (all 40 years old). We had a great discussion over frozen yogurt following the movie.

Mostly an older crowd in both showings I've been to. Both ended in silence and then clapping, but a sort of nervous clapping. My thought is that the applause was for Danish D'Souza and the work he has done putting this documentary together. At least, that's why I clapped.

36 posted on 08/27/2012 2:08:24 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (When you accept the invite into the scorpion’s home don’t bother looking for the exit.)
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To: PBRCat

I saw it...excellent. No editorializing...just the facts. D’Souza did a great job in backing up his hypothesis. Dummocraps are too emotionally involved to ever get it.


37 posted on 08/27/2012 2:30:21 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The movie makes the point that Obama is not Sharpton or Jesse J - he’s not in the “civil rights” realm and really doesn’t give a rat’s behind about “the black community” - note how disproportionately black Americans have suffered during his term. D’Souza emphasizes that Obama is not about civil rights and redressing the grievances of black Americans, but true “neocolonialism” and punishing the “colonizers”. Thus, his push to redistribute the wealth of America to the “colonized” countries. He indeed is “much worse”. See the movie!


38 posted on 08/27/2012 2:33:32 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: nuvista

I agree.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 3:05:25 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Newton


As this clown destroys every normal thing and the economy of America. Hope more folks go see '2016'.
40 posted on 08/27/2012 3:25:40 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Thank you, I have been reading the book and plan to see the movie. The book is disturbing; it is interesting how the book uses Obama’s autobiographical work of fiction to illustrate Dinesh D’Souza’s hypothesis.

I am occasionally troubled that some parts of the book rely on fiction from Obama’s book which we know did not actually happen. For example D’Souza says that Obama Sr. abandoned his adoring bride, Stanley Ann and little Barry Jr. when he went to Harvard. Despite the official narrative there is no evidence that Obama Sr. ever lived with little Barry or Stanley Ann. Those types of details may not be important. And I find that Dinesh D’Souza’s hypothesis does seem to do a better job explaining Obama’s actions than any other that I have come across. It is the best that we have so far.

I was wondering what someone who read the book would think of the movie.

41 posted on 08/27/2012 3:31:05 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I think the movie could have been a little more effective had they stretched it out to 2 hours and include more on Obama’s belief that his grandfather was tortured by the brits as well Obama’s actions in a bunch of other areas.

Its a good movie and you should go see it, but you will not learn anything new.

The best part of the movie for me was the back ground music.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 3:50:23 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: PBRCat
In 2008, I was initially disturbed by Obama’s bizarre hero worship of his absentee Kenyan father which sometimes bordered upon pagan idolatry.

First, Dreams describes feelings Obama claims to have felt as a child or an adolescent. At that age, it's not unheard of for children to idealize an absent parent. But what the book relates doesn't convey whatever Obama's adult feelings may be, any more than an account of your childhood or mine would explain our current emotions and views.

Secondly, we know that the book played up the racial theme and the "Mother from Kansas, Father from Kenya" theme. Without the mixed race background and the foreign (absent) father, there wouldn't have been any story or any book or any fat book contract, so it was in the interest of whoever put the book together to give greater emphasis to a father who really didn't play much of a role in his son's life and to family myths that may not have been very important either.

I really doubt Obama had much emotionally invested in the family myths of Kenyan or Indonesian anti-colonialism that his father's and step-father's families circulated. Look to Chicago -- to Alinsky and to practical Chicago Democratic politics -- if you want to know where Obama is coming from, whatever ideas or feelings may be circulating in the background.

But the anti-colonial theme is very important to Dinesh D'Souza. He even attributes Obama's lack of interest in his half-brother George's difficulties to conflicts over imperialism and colonialism (when it's pretty obvious that family feelings are neither very warm or very deep in the Obama clan). But there's a reason for that. "Anti-colonial" Indians seized Dinesh's home city of Goa in the year he (and Obama) was born. So this stuff is very important to him.

For the rest of us -- not so much. Figuring out the rights and wrongs of colonialism and imperialism and anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism isn't easy. The answer isn't going to be a simple for or against. Pitting Thomas Jefferson and George Washington against "anti-colonialism" also looks way too oversimplified.

43 posted on 08/27/2012 3:56:23 PM PDT by x
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To: x

You make some interesting points. I doubt that any of us wil ever learn any of the true answers anytime soon. Obama, Inc., is predicated upon myths rather than dreams.

Take the point about his white mother from Kansas. Stanley Ann Dunham’s connections to that Midwestern state are quite thin. She spent most of her childhood and adult life elsewhere. It is sort of like calling Gerald R. Ford a Nebraskan rather than a Michigander. Technically true, but so what?

For all of the time and energy expended on the birth certificate issue, I think the bigger story is to be found in Obama’s suppressed student records. I suspect that he accessed some easy dollars for higher ed by claiming to be a foreign student as a means of cashing in. Barack and Michelle have delusions of adequacy and powerful senses of entitlement. For all of their complaining, both of them have shaken down the USA for every dollar that they could and gotten quite wealthy in the process by feeding at the public trough.


44 posted on 08/27/2012 4:41:01 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: PBRCat

It should say “If you love him you don’t know him”.


45 posted on 08/27/2012 5:00:34 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: DeaconRed

Psssssst. He was being sarcastic. That is why he put “Right?” at the end.


46 posted on 08/27/2012 5:20:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: PBRCat

I watched the movie today and have to say that the focus is exclusively on D’Souza’s perception on anti-colonialism. He pretty much gave a pass to every other issue and I think that there is more to Obama’s motives than anti-colonialism. I agree with the other poster that the clues hidden in Obama’s concealed records are vital to knowing for sure what is going on. If all Obama wanted to do was settle perceived wrongs, he still needs to have funding to do that, to get financing to do all that he’s done. I’m still of the opinion that he’s little more than a puppet and that D’Souza has given him more credit than he deserves.

I do believe that Obama wants to take down the USA, but I think that it is more than an anti-colonialism thing. I think that he’s been bought and paid for by people behind the scenes and that his payoff is $$$ and fame, power and position. All of that requires his cooperation and silence on things that could render him useless to them.


47 posted on 08/27/2012 5:27:14 PM PDT by Marty
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I viewed the film once. Packed house of middle age and senior citizens. At the conclusion— after a minute of ‘someone drug my flag in the mud and pulled a big wool cap over me and now I have to admit it’—followed by sporadic applause as they finally admitted they were flat out suckers. The applause did not come easily to many. It was a go ahead and kick me for my stupidity moment of admission.
WE get the government we DESERVE.


48 posted on 08/27/2012 6:02:47 PM PDT by whistleduck
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I viewed the film once. Packed house of middle age and senior citizens. At the conclusion— after a minute of ‘someone drug my flag in the mud and pulled a big wool cap over me and now I have to admit it’—followed by sporadic applause as they finally admitted they were flat out suckers. The applause did not come easily to many. It was a go ahead and kick me for my stupidity moment of admission.
WE get the government we DESERVE.


49 posted on 08/27/2012 6:03:10 PM PDT by whistleduck
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To: Sola Veritas; doc; GOPsterinMA; Impy; ExTexasRedhead; cripplecreek

I would like to see this movie, but it won’t be playing in my home town. I’ll have to wait for it to be out on DVD, and the election might be over by then.


50 posted on 08/27/2012 7:12:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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