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Bill Nye ‘The Science Guy’ Hits Evolution Deniers
abcnews.go.com ^ | Aug 27, 2012 | Kevin Dolak

Posted on 08/27/2012 1:42:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

In a clip posted to online knowledge forum Big Think via YouTube, former children’s show host Bill Nye spoke out against the denial of evolution, saying such views harm young people especially and hamper scientific progress.

Nye, who hosted the educational show “Bill Nye the Science Guy,” which aired on PBS Kids from 1993 through 1998, made the statements in a clip posted online on Thursday, and has since been viewed over one million times. In the clip, Nye praises the United States for its contribution to technological innovation, but says that the denial of evolution is unique to the country.

“People still move to the United States. And that’s largely because of the intellectual capital we have, the general understanding of science,” Nye said in the clip. “When you have a portion of the population that doesn’t believe in that, it holds everybody back, really.

“Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It’s like, it’s very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You’re just not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place,” he added.

Nye made a three-stop tour through New Hampshire earlier this summer to tout President Obama’s education policies while making a push for science and engineering programs. He has endorsed Obama’s reelection bid.

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1 posted on 08/27/2012 1:42:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Nye, who hosted the educational show “Bill Nye the Science Guy,” which aired on PBS Kids from 1993 through 1998

What a surprise. PBS hired and made famous a radical secularist. He also thinks that people who "deny" Global Warming are anti-science too. He'd make a great spokesman for Stalin's Ministry of Science, just like pretty much everyone else who works for PBS.

2 posted on 08/27/2012 1:47:50 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Evolution” is a “carefully” protected State Religon.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 1:48:01 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bill Nye
Wants me to die


4 posted on 08/27/2012 1:48:06 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bill Nye is not a scientist.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 1:48:45 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No worries. Evolution-deniers, global warming-deniers, Obama policy-deniers, TSA-complainers, etc. will soon find a happy home in a local Homeland Security re-education camp.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 1:48:49 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“God is dead.”
- Bill Nye

“Bill Nye is dead.”
- God


7 posted on 08/27/2012 1:49:50 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

My church teaches creation, but it doesn’t deny evolution.

Nye is pretending there is a fundamental incompatibility, when there isn’t.

Still I’d like to get him to acknowledge that the hear to “evolution” is natural selection, and that essentially means “survival of the fittest.

Then we’d learn that “fittest” is defined as “that which most readily survives.

Thus, evolution is a tautology, meaning it says essentially nothing (it’s conclusion merely restates its premise).


8 posted on 08/27/2012 1:50:50 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Has Mr. Nye defined the term “evolution” as he claims we deny it?


9 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:03 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Beelzebubba

“Evolution does not explain Creation.” - Charles Darwin


10 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:26 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In the clip, Nye praises the United States for its contribution to technological innovation, but says that the denial of evolution is unique to the country.

Oh, so we should do what they do in other nations... Execute women and gays? So we're no longer unique?

11 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:50 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I know very few evolution “deniers,” but I know a lot of folks unsatisfied with Darwin’s theory that the process is governed entirely by randomness.

The theory commonly known as “intelligent design” is actually a fairly profound and scientifically rigorous approach to answering the question, “Is evolution entirely random, and if not what is governing it.” Intelligent disign theorists welcome this debate, but, true to form, the left runs from intellectual debate and hides behind name calling and invective. Bill Nye’s defense of Darwinian theory by attacking others has more in common with religious devotion than does the theory of intelligent design.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:50 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Beelzebubba

“My church teaches creation, but it doesn’t deny evolution.”, YOU need to find a new church. If a “church” cannot get Genesis right then EVERYTHING else they “teach” is suspect.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 1:53:21 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I believe in micro-evolution. A genus of birds can live or die, based on their climate and the impact it makes on them. However, seeing a dinosaur “change” into a bird thoughout millions of years is just fantastically idiotic to me.

So, I’ll believe in the word of God of Bill Nye the “Science” Guy. Thanks.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: Beelzebubba

Evolution as a process of nature is not a problem, it is Evolution as an idealology that is the issue.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 1:57:48 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“When you have a portion of the population that doesn’t believe in that, it holds everybody back, really. "

It's actually the other way around. The false assumptions that have stemmed from the theory of evolution have held back science.

One example was thinking various human organs were vestigal when now we know that they all have function. Had they not made that false assumption based on evolution, they might have discovered the functions earlier and improved medical care as a result.

Another was the infamous "junk dna". We now know that junk dna has various functions including second and third higher level cell programming functions.

16 posted on 08/27/2012 1:58:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: GraceG

Evolution as a process of nature is not a problem, it is Evolution as an idealology that is the issue.

Again to preemptively clarify that Eolvition as a process is just a re-stating of Natural Selection and natural law.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 1:59:19 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: massgopguy

Ths FULL name of Chuckie Darwin’s “work”: “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.”. He was NOTHING but a RACIST!


18 posted on 08/27/2012 1:59:19 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: stinkerpot65

Nye has exposed himself as a leftist punk. Like OJ, the “nice guy” meme is merely a crafted image divorced from reality. Bob


19 posted on 08/27/2012 1:59:53 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You're a worn-out face in all the hang-out places where the lost souls congregate." Al Stewart)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How can I deny it?

Its still just an unproven theory, right?


20 posted on 08/27/2012 2:01:30 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind?”


21 posted on 08/27/2012 2:02:32 PM PDT by Ham Hock ( i)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So when does the next evolution happen, and I assume the creatures coming out at that level will then have humans like Bill Nye served up on their tacos like we do with the lesser species before us? Maybe they'll keep us as pets, but then some people like Obama for instance do eat dogs. That's another thing. They pick on Romney for putting his dog on top of the car, but at least he didn't put him on the BBQ.
22 posted on 08/27/2012 2:04:35 PM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
[Nye] says that the denial of evolution is unique to the [United States].

Really? Saudi Arabia believes in evolution? Nigeria and Congo believe in evolution? Most countries in the world still believe in witchcraft.

23 posted on 08/27/2012 2:07:33 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nye has always been a piss poor science teacher who thinks he is wonderful. He was and is a persona that was created.

Too bad a REAL scientist, ala an moon walk astronaut, is not available to talk about real science (physics etc.)

Nye is exhibit A as a failure of science education. (without even touching the creationist theology stuff)


24 posted on 08/27/2012 2:08:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Meh...Nye is just angry because he has no idea how life began.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 2:11:20 PM PDT by opus86
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Odd” how scientists proclaim to know exactly how life began but are unwilling to on record in the case of a pregnancy to identify WHEN life begins. MILLIONS of observable pregnancies and there is no conclusion.

Well, of course there is the goal of keeping abortion on demand a legal option.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 2:14:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Nye made a three-stop tour through New Hampshire earlier this summer to tout President Obama’s education policies

Like forcing a Catholic university to provide "free" birth control? Like instructing kindergartners in the concepts of same sex "life-partners"?

27 posted on 08/27/2012 2:22:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: a fool in paradise
“Odd” how scientists proclaim to know exactly how life began but are unwilling to on record in the case of a pregnancy to identify WHEN life begins. MILLIONS of observable pregnancies and there is no conclusion.

Because that's not a scientific question. Scientists can tell you a lot about how life begins and develops, but the question of when in that process life has begun is a moral, ethical and theological question, not a scientific question.

28 posted on 08/27/2012 2:22:27 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Tailgunner Joe; wagglebee
Nye then goes on to urge adults not to deny the teaching of evolution to young people. “And I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.

Or in other words, "Don't fill you kids' heads with that superstitious god crap".

If he isn't going to be pressed on the "G" question, then why cover the "rest" of the controversy?

If God did not create the universe, is Bill suggesting that God was "surprised" by the Big Bang? God(s?) "sprang forth" from the Big Bang? Or God doesn't exist?

Or is he willing to consider that "evolution" was of God's creation?

He stumps that "only America" persists in such beliefs. Really? No other nationality or religions have faith in God as creator?

29 posted on 08/27/2012 2:28:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It’s like, it’s very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You’re just not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place,” he added.

Not until this bunch discovers that 'hot steamy pot of primordial slime' can evolution be taken seriously.

So long as public education is by law required to teach this fairy tale to our young, this nation will never end abortion as the scientific methodology for birth control.

30 posted on 08/27/2012 2:30:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Have you donated to the 'resurrection of Akin' yet?)
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To: a fool in paradise
“Odd” how scientists proclaim to know exactly how life began but are unwilling to on record in the case of a pregnancy to identify WHEN life begins. MILLIONS of observable pregnancies and there is no conclusion.

Because that's not a scientific question. Scientists can tell you a lot about how life begins and develops, but the question of when in that process life has begun is a moral, ethical and theological question, not a scientific question.

31 posted on 08/27/2012 2:31:21 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Unmasking Evolution's Magic Words by Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.

32 posted on 08/27/2012 2:32:35 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The proper teaching on creation is found in the Torah, including the reason for the harmonious design of DNA. The Double Helix has much to teach us about Ethics and Sexuality, but this can only be perceived through the lens of a Hebrew understanding of the Universe and can best be expressed in Hebrew. One thing that Christianity did get right is that “In the Beginning was the Word,”. Information always precedes fabrication, Always.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 2:32:53 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Too bad we can’t post excerpts from The Onion. They did a great article on this guy a few years ago, “reporting” that Nye had died in a vinegar-baking soda explosion.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 2:35:12 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Palestinians” believe in evolution. They teach school children that Jews are descended from the offspring of pigs and monkeys.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 2:36:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: US Navy Vet

“My church teaches creation, but it doesn’t deny evolution.”, YOU need to find a new church. If a “church” cannot get Genesis right then EVERYTHING else they “teach” is suspect.


Genesis isn’t science, nor reported nor measured in scientific terms. There are two creation stories in genesis. They conflict. Which one do you believe?


36 posted on 08/27/2012 2:36:26 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I’ve heard it put thusly: If Genesis is a myth, then sin is a myth. Look around.


37 posted on 08/27/2012 2:37:30 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: Tailgunner Joe
says that the denial of evolution is unique to the country.

uhhh.....I don't believe that the Muslims believe in it.
38 posted on 08/27/2012 2:39:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bill Nye is an engineer. Not a science guy.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 2:39:59 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bill Nye? I thought he was dead.
40 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:11 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: fwdude
When you have a portion of the population that doesn’t believe in that, it holds everybody back, really.

There you have it. Progress and dissent are incompatible apparently. Guess that's why they all envy the ChiComs.


41 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Beelzebubba

They conflict. Which one do you believe?

I did not know there was a conflict however I will err on the side of safety.
I believe the Bible when it says that God created the earth in 7 days and it just looks like it is millions of years old. Just like a newly created Adam would look like he is twenty years or older.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:59 PM PDT by winodog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

We have to stop your dissent because it is harming the children!


43 posted on 08/27/2012 2:43:32 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

So it isn’t a life until the moral police who don’t believe in a “God” concept decide it is a life? On what basis? Preserving a “right” to abortion on demand?

It is a simple question. And observable. Life deniers won’t admit it.


44 posted on 08/27/2012 2:43:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The problem with most evolution theories based on randomness is that they largely depend on mutation. The same people who insist that science should be based on objective observation fail to admit that the overwhelming majority of mutations make a creature less adaptable. I can see certain instances where, perhaps, a genetic predisposition to certain coloration or patterns may make an animal a better hunter or a more difficult prey, but most random mutations adversely impact the health of the organism.


45 posted on 08/27/2012 2:49:57 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Beelzebubba
Thus, evolution is a tautology, meaning it says essentially nothing (it’s conclusion merely restates its premise).

Exactly. Put another way, when asked what is the mechanism for evolution, the reply is:

"The Survival of the Fittest"

Question: define "fittest" (this is a problem for evolutionists, because there is absolutely no way to determine the 'fittest' of a species beforehand: this only becomes clear after observing which members of the species manage to survive over time)

Hence the answer: "those who survive"

Thus, evolutionists are stating a meaningless tautology by actually saying that a central mechanism of evolution is "The survival of those who survive."

46 posted on 08/27/2012 2:51:34 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: massgopguy

“Evolution does not explain Creation.” - Charles Darwin”

Was it supposed to?


47 posted on 08/27/2012 2:54:33 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

“overwhelming majority”

Well, those words are key, aren’t they? all it takes is a “small minority” for evolution to work.


48 posted on 08/27/2012 3:01:07 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just a heads up... The Hebrew word for “day” in Genesis is the same word for amount of time or space of time....


49 posted on 08/27/2012 3:02:36 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Evolution according to who’s theory? There are a lot of them out there.


50 posted on 08/27/2012 3:04:35 PM PDT by HarleyD
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