“And yet this does beg the question: under what circumstances should civil police and military be working together WHERE WEAPON USE IS INVOLVED.
Many answers are not comfortable.”
So the military isn’t supposed to be trained on how to clear a room without blowing up an entire city block?
That’s part of the reason why they train with SWAT teams. And it’s not everyone in the military who does this training BTW. The Marines assigned to protect carriers and other “capital ships” go through this sort of training.
Force Recon Marines have the mission of VBSS (Visit Board Search and Seizure). Do they not need to be trained in SWAT style tactics?
But you and some of the others apparently like the idea of more of our troops coming home in body bags because they hav’t got a clue as to how to properly clear a room/structure.
“Sir, how should we clear the building?”
“We’ll throw squad after squad in there until either we’re all dead or the enemy is dead”
I didn't say that. But they sure can do it [the training] w/o the police.
That’s part of the reason why they train with SWAT teams. And it’s not everyone in the military who does this training BTW. The Marines assigned to protect carriers and other “capital ships” go through this sort of training.
Yeah.. I was 11B and on train-up to go to Iraq we covered this training... and guess what: there were no integrated police exercises. In fact the only overlap we had were the National Guard guys who were Police on their civilian-side job.
Force Recon Marines have the mission of VBSS (Visit Board Search and Seizure). Do they not need to be trained in SWAT style tactics?
See the above; but that also begs the question: do police need military-style tactics? (That is SWAT.)
But you and some of the others apparently like the idea of more of our troops coming home in body bags because they hav’t got a clue as to how to properly clear a room/structure.
What are you talking about? Just because I wish a very thick and distinct line between civilian operations and military operations (and hence find police/military armed-exercise integration disturbing) does not mean that I wish my fellow veterans to die.
“Sir, how should we clear the building?”
“We’ll throw squad after squad in there until either we’re all dead or the enemy is dead”
Ah, I see you've served under Captain Zapp Branagan.