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To: sheikdetailfeather

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090615171618.htm

“Research shows that extreme stress can interfere with or disrupt normal ovulation for women. Stress can suppress the hormones that are needed for ovulation to occur, making ovulation come later on in a woman’s cycle or, rarely, causing her to miss ovulating at all during a cycle.”

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/stress-and-fertility.html


26 posted on 08/29/2012 5:49:09 AM PDT by Herbster
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To: Herbster
Your real science based links give support to Mr. Akin.
And the radical pro abortionists have mischaracterized, distorted and exaggerated his remarks regarding less than one percent of the sex, life, choice and responsibility problem.
The point is that the radical agenda of the overt and covert radical liberals would have found some lapse in some other Republican candidate and inflamed it into a false controversy.
Since everyone is out of real work, good jobs, their homes and small businesses, I guess this is the best diversion from the issues that they can devise.
TWB
41 posted on 08/29/2012 6:54:57 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Herbster

These studies you cite don’t remotely prove the point you are trying to project, and the fact you continue to do so shows just as much basic biological ignorance as Akin provided.

Studies that have shown high cortisol (stress hormone) levels have higher risk of miscarriage ARE NOT REMOTELY PROOF RAPE DOESN’T GET YOU PREGNANT! Cortisol is a stress hormone, and guess what, PREGNANCY in an of itself raises cortisol levels, pregnancy itself causes stress. The fact that women who have higher cortisol levels during pregnancy appeared in an incredibly small study to have higher miscarriages does not allow you to remotely supposition that the trauma of rape means less likelyhood of pregnancy that consentual sex.

Studies have also shown stress can be a contributing factor to conception problems, however those studies were conducted on women who desired to conceive were having regular and frequent consentual sex, and having problems. And no, the stress wasn’t concluded to be THE factor, most had other issues, but stress was concluded to be a contributing factor, not a main factor. And since these studies were done on women who were having regular, frequent consentual sex, and desired very great to become pregnant trying to extrapolate the results must transfer directly to a woman who has been raped is nonsense.

In that study there is no evidence the higher cortisol levels were created by external factors of any sort, if there is a problem with the pregnancy, or child, this would in create greater stress and higher cortisol and also (not suprisingly) increase the incident of miscarriage.

Citing of this study as proof that Akin’s ignornat coments are backed by sciense is just like the claims idiots use that higher levels of carbon dioxide are a cause of global warming, when in fact they are an EFFECT of warmer temperatures, not a cause.

There is no proof, ZERO, that being raped has a lower incident of pregnancy than consentual sex, and its beyond ignorant to try to argue there is.

Claiming that a raped woman is statistically less likely to become pregnant than a woman who has consentual sex is NOT remotely backed up by any study, science or otherwise, and those 70s studies that made that claim were debunked decades ago.

The statistical odds of a woman getting pregnant from a 1 time sex act, whether consentual or non consentual are the same, the very low single digits. PERIOD. There is no magical uterus, there is no womans body can shut it down.. its all nonsense, and wholey moronic.

Human history is filled with the offspring of rape, its been used as a weapon of war throughout history, not just for the physical act, but for the offspring and demoralization that they can create among a conquered people. Akin’s claim was WHOLEY ignorant, and he’s not a victim of simple flub, he showed that he is just completely ignornant of basic biology.

I have no issue Akin doesn’t believe in a rape exception in an abortion ban, that doesn’t bother me at all. What makes Akin unacceptable is not that he doesn’t believe in abortion for rape victims, that’s a simple enough stand to articulate and logic to follow... don’t punish the child for the parents crime.. very simple and hardly extreme. That’s not why Akin is a dead man walking, he’s a dead man walking because he honestly believed something that was embarrassingly idiotic, factually wrong and was arguing a policy position from it.

Akin shot himself, stop blaming everyone else for his stupidity.


44 posted on 08/29/2012 7:16:48 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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