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Sarah Palin: Third party is ‘a possibility’ if GOP forgets its conservative platform
Life Site News ^ | August 29, 2012 | BEN JOHNSON

Posted on 08/29/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by NYer

TAMPA, August 29, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) –  Sarah Palin has said a third party may emerge if the Republican Party’s leaders abandon conservative principles.

Asked if the GOP’s increasing fractiousness may lead to a new party taking its place, Palin replied, “If history is an indication it is a possibility – if the Republicans don’t remember what the planks in the platform represent.”

“Look what happened in the mid-1800’s. The Whig Party went away and the Republican Party surfaced, because the electorate got sick and tired of the party fighting for power and not doing the will of the people,” Palin said on Fox News.

Palin’s words echo those made by the founder of a conservative third party, Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party

“The Republican Party is going to go the way of the Whigs in the 1850s,” said Phillips, who served as the first presidential candidate of what was then known as the U.S. Taxpayers Party, in his 1992 acceptance speech. “It will die the death of a double-minded man – who talks one way but lives in conflict with that which he professes to believe.”

Phillips, who headed the Office of Economic Opportunity during the Nixon administration, frequently likened the modern GOP’s refusal to take a definitive stand protecting all unborn children to the Whig Party’s refusal to oppose slavery – a dodge that led to its implosion and the birth of the Republican Party.

The Constitution Party platform opposes abortion under all circumstances.

The former Alaska governor has in the past bypassed a liberal Republican in favor of a more conservative, third party challenger. In 2009, Palin endorsed Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman over pro-choice Republican Dede Scozzafava for a congressional race in New York.

Democratic operatives also claimed Palin supported Pat Buchanan‘s third party presidential candidacy in 2000, because she wore a Buchanan button as she welcomed him during a visit to Wasilla. In fact, she served on Steve Forbes’ campaign that year. 

However, in 1995 and 2000 Palin’s husband, Todd, registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, which has endorsed the Constitution Party presidential candidate since 1996

Palin is not alone in her ominous message to the Republican elite. Phyllis Schlafly said House Speaker John Boehner was “making a mistake” when he said “I’ve never read” a party platform, then specifically noted his exceptions to protecting some classes of the unborn. “It’s a very grassroots document that I think the politicians ought to listen to,” she said

A number of other Republicans - including former Congressman Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and U.S. Senator Bob Smith - have cast their lots with the Constitution Party since 2000, only to leave shortly afterwards. The party’s 2012 presidential candidate is former Republican Congressman Virgil Goode of Virginia.

Palin, the Republican party’s 2008 vice presidential nominee, was not publicly invited to speak at the Republican National Convention. John McCain will address the convention tonight.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 08/29/2012 3:15:43 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer; onyx

I think Sarah has been Reading Free Republic Lately.

2 posted on 08/29/2012 3:17:45 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: All

Rush Limbaugh addressed this same issue, yesterday.

The establishment Republicans want to kick the conservatives out of the party. They don't want the conservatives having any say-so in the party whatsoever. And I'll give you one example why. It's an AP story. The Republican establishment, read this AP story. Rather than get mad at the AP, rather than get fighting mad at the impugning of members of the Republican Party, rather than get mad at that, they cower in fear and say, "How can we make the AP stop writing this stuff?" And they conclude that the only way to pull that off is to get rid of any conservative influence at all. And one way you can do that is keep 'em out of the convention and keep 'em out of the platform fights.
GOP Establishment Tries to Change Delegate Rules to Marginalize Conservatives

3 posted on 08/29/2012 3:18:00 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: KC_Lion

See my post #3.


4 posted on 08/29/2012 3:18:41 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
IF?
5 posted on 08/29/2012 3:19:02 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NYer
I am there.
6 posted on 08/29/2012 3:19:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: NYer
http://api.ning.com/files/SHiJ3GhHNrHJa-sSOFFECsiN3gYD22HUUWchY6RH0V54nynpF4*7WyNyJu1hYCnM0GJA-U6LJzEb4j*uahUlOpWEqI1gavJN/sarahRoleModel.png

This is why Sarah is one of my Role Models.

7 posted on 08/29/2012 3:22:39 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: NYer

I like the idea of a third party — too long has this nation had to sit on a two-legged barstool.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 3:26:50 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: NYer

It’s so exciting to hear John McCaine speak.................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


9 posted on 08/29/2012 3:30:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYer

Now we know why GOP News, I mean FOX News kicked her off tonight. As usual, it’s fair and balanced between Republocrats and Demicans, but if you really want to restore power to the people, you’ll be shown the door. I doubt her contract gets renewed now.


10 posted on 08/29/2012 3:31:46 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: NYer

If Obama wins we got nothing to lose by going third party.


11 posted on 08/29/2012 3:31:50 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: KC_Lion
The first big change is to incorporate a NEW Republican National Committee in some state ~ then invite the state Republican (and other parties) to send delegates to a convention.

There's your new party with the GOP-e named and ID'd and cut loose to do whatever it is they want to do ~ but without the people who do the work and do the voting.

I would anticipate that some time in January would be the earliest we could get that off the ground ~ but what a welcome for a new President Romney ~ no party behind him except Boehner and Cantor.

Oh, about those states, some of them WILL NOT BE INVITED ~ they have to start the Republican party all over again SANS every single official they have now. Rhode Island, Connecticut, California ~ they spring to mind. The current crowd isn't winning anything, so we need a totally new crowd ~ they certainly can't do worse.

12 posted on 08/29/2012 3:36:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KC_Lion
The first big change is to incorporate a NEW Republican National Committee in some state ~ then invite the state Republican (and other parties) to send delegates to a convention.

There's your new party with the GOP-e named and ID'd and cut loose to do whatever it is they want to do ~ but without the people who do the work and do the voting.

I would anticipate that some time in January would be the earliest we could get that off the ground ~ but what a welcome for a new President Romney ~ no party behind him except Boehner and Cantor.

Oh, about those states, some of them WILL NOT BE INVITED ~ they have to start the Republican party all over again SANS every single official they have now. Rhode Island, Connecticut, California ~ they spring to mind. The current crowd isn't winning anything, so we need a totally new crowd ~ they certainly can't do worse.

13 posted on 08/29/2012 3:37:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KC_Lion
Mitt's daddy tried to serve the eviction notice in 1964 and failed, Mitt just nailed it to the door.

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14 posted on 08/29/2012 3:41:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: muawiyah
Oh, about those states, some of them WILL NOT BE INVITED ~ they have to start the Republican party all over again SANS every single official they have now. Rhode Island, Connecticut, California ~ they spring to mind. The current crowd isn't winning anything, so we need a totally new crowd ~ they certainly can't do worse.

Now THAT I could get behind.

The Quisling Moderates are not going to be allowed in our New Conservative Party Sarah and us create. They can stay with the GOP-E

15 posted on 08/29/2012 3:42:42 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: cripplecreek
The Dreams of Our Fathers.

Sounds like a good subject for a cleaver Photoshop picture.

16 posted on 08/29/2012 3:45:31 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: KC_Lion
The idea is that where we have a hopeless situation and a moribund Republican presence, we actually create a brand new third-party alternative.

The worst that can happen is we continue to lose elections in those places, but the best thing is that once we get over half the state parties signed on with the NEW Republican National Committee the old GOP-e will have been effectively disgorged at the state level as well WITH MINIMUM DISRUPTION TO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL.

We need to have a filter ~ based on personal history, ideological position, campaigns worked with and so forth so we can quickly identify GOP-e apparatchiks and bar them from party affiliation.

17 posted on 08/29/2012 3:47:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYer

A Third Party would guarantee rule by disciples of Bill Ayers for decades...if not longer.


18 posted on 08/29/2012 3:48:11 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Voter ID Equals "No Representation Without Respiration")
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To: KC_Lion

The American Truth Party

The Constitutional Restoration Party

The Representative Republican Party


19 posted on 08/29/2012 3:49:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: muawiyah; cripplecreek
Bingo!

It's not like we can do any worse or hand the elections over to the Democrats, Its the GOP-E who's been doing that!

They are happy being a minority party, just sitting back going to golf games and hobnobbing at the parties.

JUST LIKE THE WHIGS IN THE 1850's!!!

The GOP got its start as THE third party and if they are too stupid to learn from the Whigs mistakes, then they deserve to join them in extinction!

20 posted on 08/29/2012 3:52:45 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: NYer
I'm all for this IF this third party launches on Nov. 5, 2012. We can't survive 4 more years of 0bama and a third party run in this general election will hand a victory to 0bama.
21 posted on 08/29/2012 3:53:08 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: cripplecreek
The Conservative-Liberatrian-Tea Party

Hell if we could merge the smaller third parties into a larger one, that could be a force to be reckoned with.

22 posted on 08/29/2012 3:54:19 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: NYer
The GOP seems to have forgotten.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

http://reagan2020.us/speeches/Let_Them_Go_Their_Way.asp

23 posted on 08/29/2012 3:54:50 PM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

A Third Party would guarantee rule by disciples of Bill Ayers for decades...if not longer.
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Funny ,, it took only 10 years for an upstart 3rd party called Republicans to get the presidency...


24 posted on 08/29/2012 3:56:41 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: NYer

I like Sarah Palin, really, I do. And I thought McCain’s selection of her as VP candidate was a smart move. But FR posters have an unrealistic opinion of her influence on the national stage. I wish it wasn’t so.


25 posted on 08/29/2012 3:57:35 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: KC_Lion

This would have been the ideal year to run a third party, since people aren’t happy with how Bush’s term ended nor how Obama’s term has progressed.


26 posted on 08/29/2012 3:58:25 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: muawiyah

The way I would create a new party would allow us to continue voting for good conservative republicans while replacing bad ones with new party members. The new party would probably caucus with the GOP most of the time while inserting our ideals into legislation at every opportunity.

As the new party grew stronger we could start pulling conservative republicans into the fold.

Personally I think one problem with the GOP is the fact that democrats were driven out of their party by the marxists and have nested in the GOP and driven it left.


27 posted on 08/29/2012 3:58:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Neidermeyer

Six.


28 posted on 08/29/2012 3:59:57 PM PDT by marron
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To: Gay State Conservative
A Third Party would guarantee rule by disciples of Bill Ayers for decades...if not longer.

And just when the GOP has done such a bang up job of preventing it too. LOL
29 posted on 08/29/2012 4:00:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Huskrrrr

> If Obama wins we got nothing to lose by going third party.

If Romney wins we got very little to lose by going third party.


30 posted on 08/29/2012 4:01:19 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: marron

The Freesoil party played a big part in creating the GOP.


31 posted on 08/29/2012 4:02:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Did you get your crystal ball at the same garage sale where Obama got his teleprompter?


32 posted on 08/29/2012 4:05:52 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: JediJones; cripplecreek
Actually it would have been a great year to run and honest to G-D Conservative, S/He would have beat Ubama within an inch of his political life.

In fact any other candidate who run stood an excellent shoot of beating him.....

Except Romney!!!! Who is too Liberal and is now showing true Conservatives the door out.

33 posted on 08/29/2012 4:06:03 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: KC_Lion

I am so pleased she never went away. She wields so much power simply by what she says. Hopefully, she will ultimately obtain what she and we all deserve, a conservative presidency.


34 posted on 08/29/2012 4:08:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: KC_Lion
The Republican party fell into a power vacuum ~ it wasn't that they became a third-party, they were instantly the second-party and the Whigs essentially evaported with a large contingent (including Lincoln) gravitating to the Republican party.

While that was happening the Democrat party immediately after Buchanan's election appears to have fractured several different ways leaving each major segment in no position to pursue a Presidential race to a successful conclusion ~ and that left the Republicans in the unenviable position of taking the Presidency in 1860 just as the Souf' seceeded.

No matter how this year's election ends up, there will be a serious power vacuum and the Democrats will probably find it difficult to even run a candidate in 2016. The Republicans will be severely weakend due to their rejection of their very own very Conservative party base.

An insurgency can take over the leadership position through the simple expedient of forming a NEW Republican National Committee (that's it's name and what it will be).

35 posted on 08/29/2012 4:08:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KC_Lion

Virtually any combination of candidates who ran this year aside from Paul and Romney would have been very acceptable and could have stomped Bammy badly.

I’d even give Paul the treasury post and Romney could drive his limo.


36 posted on 08/29/2012 4:11:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SgtHooper

Sarah is here to stay until the Battle is over and Conservatism has won!

37 posted on 08/29/2012 4:12:47 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: cripplecreek

I believe that we’d see some major runoff from the rat party as well, those who shifted to independent, looking for some viable alternative to the two scumbag parties we currently have.


38 posted on 08/29/2012 4:15:05 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: cripplecreek
I think the time is ripe for a major strike at the very center of power ~ with a decapitating coup ~ neatly severing the faithless leadership while installing a Conservative brand to which the existing state parties can subscribe.

As much as anyone might wish to immanentize the eschaton through gradualism, sometimes what you get a chance to do is fill a quite vacuous power vacuum as occupied presently by our Republican and Democrat national leadership.

I think that time is now (not this month, but this next quarter)

39 posted on 08/29/2012 4:15:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
(Beat this point like a dead horse) Which is why the GOP-E allowed the Dems to choose the weakest candidate, because they like being schmoozed too in Washington.

I’d even give Paul the treasury post and Romney could drive his limo.


40 posted on 08/29/2012 4:16:41 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: cripplecreek

“A Third Party would guarantee rule by disciples of Bill Ayers for decades...if not longer.”

If things don’t correct themsleves in the next 2-3 years, it is a gamble worth taking. It’d be so simple to slam both existing parties on every issue.


41 posted on 08/29/2012 4:18:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: muawiyah
Sounds Like a Plan!

I am sure Sarah will help us lead the Charge!


42 posted on 08/29/2012 4:19:25 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: NYer

I Lurk.. Many things today had me wish to express opinions. On this, should we not double down on our efforts within the R party? Uphill battle, yes.. We support the existing partners (they will w/o a doubt need support) we pick the seats we need. A third party makes for an easy target.. “All in the party are “Palinized” or what I’ve used for years “Quayled”.. Support a voice in the party??? The Dems will love this idea of a split, as will the RINO’s.


43 posted on 08/29/2012 4:20:55 PM PDT by WorksinKOP
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To: muawiyah

I still think the Michigan rout in the Michigan convention that removed the number 1 Romney operative (Saul Anuzis) played a big pat in the GOPe behavior yesterday. Anuzis is a hardcore progressive scumbag who voted for the after the primary rule change that took the Michigan tie and gave it to Romney. He got in trouble a year or so back for pimping the national popular vote using official GOP stationary and just turned up today pimping green jobs.

http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2012/5/20/104733/048

>>Conservatives working in unison at the State Republican Convention sent a message to the establishment loud and clear: “It’s our turn!”...No more `business as usual’ politics orchestrated to appease the political masses with hollow claims of conservatism and principles each election cycle, only to disappear into the maze of lobbyists and special interests in the interim...This time, the false claims of an election year cycle fell on deaf ears, conservatism ruled the day...Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and true Republican conservatives unified in one of the most sweeping upsets of the incumbent power brokers I have seen in my lifetime...they have sent both the State and National GOP a clear ultimatum...This time we will not be silent, nor ignored, nor brushed aside...<<


44 posted on 08/29/2012 4:25:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KC_Lion

The GOP elite should always fear the emergence of an independent conservative party. It is the only real leverage conservatives have as long as the GOPussys are in charge.

It is when they DON’T fear a third party that they have the conservatives hostage.


45 posted on 08/29/2012 4:38:13 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: NYer

Whatever one might think of the most prominent individuals at this years convention: Romney of Ma, Ryan of Wi, Priebus of Wi, Christie of NJ, Boehner of Oh, and others, none of them are from a reliably Republican state.

Of the states that can truly be called “red states”, we see very little representation in the key positions of this year’s Republican party and convention.

Conservatives have been pushed to the side in many ways, and if the Rinos in charge, Rinos from states that rarely vote Republican, if they stray too far, that might set off a serious initiative to form a third party among conservatives from states which actually reliably vote for Republicans.

They are definitely taking the true base of the party for granted, if not worse.


46 posted on 08/29/2012 4:39:39 PM PDT by Will88
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To: NYer
There is one thing we must have in our platform. We get to keep the elephant as our mascot. The GOP can have this fine, patriotic alpaca.


47 posted on 08/29/2012 4:41:55 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones
We can make our party mascot a Wolverine.

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48 posted on 08/29/2012 4:52:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Don't Tread on Me


49 posted on 08/29/2012 5:01:46 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: NYer
There are a lot of conservative people in the country who will never vote Republican for various reasons. It's not rational, but it's true. A new conservative party, such as the Constitution Party, could be a place where conservatives of all stripes can unify without the old GOP baggage.
50 posted on 08/29/2012 5:02:13 PM PDT by LaserJock
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