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Wife watches as smoke shop clerk exchanges gunfire with robbers(TX)
khou.com ^ | 28 August, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/30/2012 8:50:33 AM PDT by marktwain

HARRIS COUNTY, Texas – The clerk at an east Harris County smoke shop was shot while he exchanged gunfire with two robbers overnight, all while his wife and two shoppers looked on.

According to the Harris County Sheriff’s Office, two suspects entered Puff’s Smoke Shop off the East Freeway just before midnight Monday. The armed duo attempted to rob the store, but the clerk pulled out his own gun and opened fire.

The clerk was shot once in his leg and sent to the hospital in stable condition. He was expected to be okay, according to deputies.

The suspects, one male and the other possibly female, fled the scene. Deputies said it did not appear either suspect was struck by the clerk’s bullets.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; robber; tx
It might have been helpful for the wife to have her own gun.
1 posted on 08/30/2012 8:50:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

That or some target practice. Still they made it out alive so it could have been worse


2 posted on 08/30/2012 8:54:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

Need MO gun range practice


3 posted on 08/30/2012 8:54:20 AM PDT by el_texicano (Palinista to the core! Ryan will kick butt.)
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To: marktwain

Bad headline makes it seem like the wife was doing her nails during it all.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 9:00:22 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

” Bad headline makes it seem like the wife was doing her nails during it all.”

Exactly


5 posted on 08/30/2012 9:05:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

The clerk needs to learn ‘aim small miss small’. He was probably using a small weapon and in all the excitement he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 9:07:17 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: marktwain

How in the hell can anyone miss? Have little sympathy for anyone that could not make a body shot. As for me one between the eyes is my target.


7 posted on 08/30/2012 9:10:10 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me
How in the hell can anyone miss?

Consider some of the following possibilities:

Your target is moving.

You are moving.

Your target is fighting with you, disturbing your aim.

You are desperately trying to shoot really, really fast.

You are desperately trying to keep from getting shot.

8 posted on 08/30/2012 9:36:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
You mean it's not as easy in real life as it is when shooting at a Zombie target from 3 yards at the local indoor gun range?

/sarc

9 posted on 08/30/2012 9:51:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Logical me

People react in many different ways the first time a gun is pointed at them. Many panic. Only a few don’t. Ever have a gun pointed at you by a thug? I have, so I know how I respond (quickly and with violence - only to discover the gun was a replica after I about broke the perp’s arm disarning him). It’s very rattling. This guy did just fine IMHO.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 10:12:16 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: marktwain

Yep. For close range fights in poor light, aiming on ranges is a preceding problem. Learn to point at close range instead of aiming, but be sure to have a range that won’t allow ricochets to hit you from too-close backdrops (or plastic/wax loads with barrel adapters to assure pressure for cycling actions, frangible loads might help if backdrop distant enough to prevent rebound injuries). Point at multiple near targets. Aim at more distant ones while getting accustomed to using cover. Most “experts” are committing serious errors in their proud training plans (no point-firing practice and no truly proper use of cover).

Too many people completely avoid firing while pointing. In many attacks by others trying to use deadly force (most being close, dark, fast), those who exclusively aim on ranges will hit too low and all over the place.

For situations involved greater distances, too many people stand tall behind short barriers and refuse to lay on the ground in areas devoid of better cover. Too many people nurse their recoil and noise sensitivities instead of curing them (desensitization).

If using cartridges that are only suited in terminal ballistics for close ranges, go for the hips first or something. If the economy continues to decline with ensuing large numbers of layoffs and pension cuts, many government/services-supported middle class folks accustomed to gaming the system (office/bureaucratic politics) from the safety of office policies (political correctness, etc.) will resort to more direct, physical, traditional crimes (robberies, home invasions, kidnappings, etc., see declines of other debt regimes). And many of them have bragged around the Net about purchasing or having been issued body armor.

Even much more important family/personal security measures: prepare to stay home a little after usual shopping days in events of looting and sporadic increases in violent crimes. Carefully planned lighting can be extremely important and can be done without overly bright lights that bother neighbors (bad public affairs). Cheap driveway alarms, other alarms. Camera systems with software motion detection can be put together on the cheap, little by little, with careful and patient planning and much pre-study. Dogs, if you can afford and care for them. Not liability dogs, either (bad public affairs, lawsuits, retaliations, etc.). Dogs that make noise only when strangers arrive will do just fine, and you control the security more thoroughly that way. Nonlethal weapons (pepper mace, etc.) can be very wisely used for some in some situations (can prevent a legal nightmare if trained and used properly). A lawyer. Get a consultation, at least (retainer at best). Not nearly as expensive with some lawyers as most people would assume. Positioning of things around your place—also very important, if you think about possible scenarios enough.

And more...much more. Use your imagination as one who builds defenses or does personal security work very well would do.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 10:41:24 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: driftdiver

I lived in Houston for about twenty years. I remember once reading an article in the Chronicle about how it was that civilians had a higher kill rate in gun fights with perps than the police.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 11:49:03 AM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: cpa4you; All
I lived in Houston for about twenty years. I remember once reading an article in the Chronicle about how it was that civilians had a higher kill rate in gun fights with perps than the police.

From what I have read, citizens have a better record of hitting the opponent and not hitting unintended people.

I believe that there are three primary reasons for this, which have little to do with the skill of the shooter:

Citizen defenders have the trouble come to them, they do not usually go to the trouble, as is most commonly the case with police. Thus they have no difficulty in knowing who the bad guy is. Police often have to figure out who the bad guy is.

Citizen defenders are usually not in crowded areas. Most criminals wish to avoid crowded areas when picking a place for a crime.

Citizen defenders are often on their home turf and know the area well, very often in their own home or store. This is seldom the case in police shootings.

All of the above combine in such a way that police miss more often and shoot the wrong person much more often than citizen defenders.

13 posted on 08/30/2012 12:22:51 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: familyop
1 word....'SpeedRock'....know it...make it yer buddy.


When its up close & personal....SpeedRock it.
14 posted on 08/30/2012 9:17:25 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

Thank you. I’ll look up some information on that.


15 posted on 08/31/2012 4:06:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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