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Romney: My views on abortion rights are clear
CBS ^ | August 27, 2012 | Staff/ Scott Pelley

Posted on 08/31/2012 9:09:04 AM PDT by Mozilla

(CBS News) In an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, Mitt Romney said his views on abortion rights are more lenient than those put forward in the Republican party platform.

"My position has been clear throughout this campaign," Romney said. "I'm in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother."

The Republican Party is gathering in Tampa, Fla., this week for its national convention, where in addition to nominating Romney for president, the party will officially adopt its national platform. Last week, the party added language to the platform calling for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with no mention of making exceptions for victims of rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother.

President Obama in an interview Saturday said that if Romney were president, the Republican would not "stand in the way" if Congress attempted to strip women of their reproductive health rights. Democrats have recently stepped up their attacks against the GOP ticket on the issue of reproductive rights, in part because of the strong views held by Romney's running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, and in part because of the controversial remarks GOP Senate candidate Todd Akin made on rape and abortion.

Romney, however, told Pelley that the issue amounts to a distraction.

"Recognize this is the decision that will be made by the Supreme Court," he said. "The Democrats try and make this a political issue every four years, but this is a matter in the courts. It's been settled for some time in the courts."

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To: Melas
However, over the years, I've seen contrary statements, some right here on FR. I'll find the thread, although it might take me a while to search my 11 years of history, but one that sticks out in my mind is the FReeper who said somthing to the effect of, "Pregnant women shouldn't be allowed chemotherapy. She's had her chance at life, so it's the baby's turn."

So from the postings of a few on the fringe you will extrapolate to the general pro-life Freeper population? Do you understand the flaw in that logic?

21 posted on 08/31/2012 10:03:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: snarkytart

Yea I understand. I get that Obama has to go, but this is what Romney said and is worthy of bringing up. Tea party and social conservatives should know what they are getting.


22 posted on 08/31/2012 10:04:18 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: Mozilla
Your posting history betray you bot. 100% anti GOP agitprop. Not a word attacking the Progressive Fascist Democrat Party

So spare us the faux "conservative" posturing. When you have to lie about your real agenda in the vain hope it gives your posting a fake gloss of intellectual credibility, you have all ready lost the debate.

23 posted on 08/31/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.


24 posted on 08/31/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: COBOL2Java
So from the postings of a few on the fringe you will extrapolate to the general pro-life Freeper population? Do you understand the flaw in that logic?

To be fair, it might be better for finding the average* feeling, rather than the general** feeling.

* Statistic's 'mean'.
** Statistic's 'mode'.

25 posted on 08/31/2012 10:12:10 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: COBOL2Java

At no point did I ascribe the position of those who I would label as the fringe to most FReepers. I was merely pointing out that they do exist, which was contrary to the black and white declarative, “No pro-lifer....” statement I was responding to.


26 posted on 08/31/2012 10:12:29 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.

And how does that make us "full of it"? The abortion in this case would have been for the life of the mother. Pretty much every reputable pro-life group would not have been against terminating that pregnancy. Sorry, try again.

27 posted on 08/31/2012 10:14:23 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java
Ok, I'll walk you through it.

the “Life of the mother” or the baby never happens in this day and age. A big red herring. Exactly. Dr. Ron Paul says he has never seen such a case in all his years of practice.

See the above statement? See the key words and phrases? Never happens

No leeway there. It obviously does happen, hence my example.

This is twice now where you've taken exception to me correcting absolutist nonsense. When someone declares without a equivocation that no one ever, or something never...it had better be cut and dried, or the entire argument is lost. Obviously, in both cases where you've responded to my replies, sometimes people do, and sometimes it does happen. That would preclude the evers and nevers. Nuff said.

28 posted on 08/31/2012 10:21:23 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
You guys are full of it. My wife had a patient not more than a few years ago at most who was advised not by the obstetrical practice, but her cardiologist to not continue her pregnancy because of an existing heart condition. Patient ignored the advice and sure enough coded on the telemetry unit at 28 weeks. Her heart was just not strong enough to deal with the 150% blood volume associated with pregnancy. They still had fetal heart tones when an ECS was attempted, but that was futile as well. Both mother and baby were lost.

Maybe the patient couldn't stand the idea of abortion, thinking it to be murder. If that is the case then I cannot fault the decision to "ignore the advice" of the doctor.

29 posted on 08/31/2012 10:25:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Melas
This is twice now where you've taken exception to me correcting absolutist nonsense.

Fine. Then please refrain from using the phrase "you guys".

30 posted on 08/31/2012 10:27:40 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: OneWingedShark

Absolutely. I’m in no way judging the patient. My own wife took great risks with our youngest, after developing a DVT in her previous pregnancy and throwing an embulis (sp?) to her lung, almost dying. It was daily shots of low molecular weight heparin for months, and a few scary moments.

I’m suspecting that it is because of the high degree of emotion surrounding the subject matter, but there seems to be a complete inability for anyone to keep my posts in context today.

I relayed that incident solely to refute the nonsensical, untrue statement that, “The life of the mother or the baby NEVER (emphasis mine) happens in this day and age.” A statement which has nothing to do with the courage of the mother, so for the life of me, I cannot understand how my reply was taken as such either.


31 posted on 08/31/2012 10:32:33 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
This is twice now where you've taken exception to me correcting absolutist nonsense.

Not all absolutism is nonsense though. The USSC Roe v. Wade decision was terrible, absolutely, on both the legal and moral fronts.

32 posted on 08/31/2012 10:33:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: COBOL2Java

That’s fair. For clarity, “you guys” referenced NKP_Vet and Forgotten Amendments. It was not meant to be inclusive of anyone else.


33 posted on 08/31/2012 10:34:18 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Mozilla

Romney is a judicial supremacist, pro-choice democrat.

He’s not pro-life in any way that matters at all.


34 posted on 08/31/2012 10:50:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day Christians stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: NKP_Vet

No, I don’t. What I think is that God isn’t going to do anything at all.

But the child’s mother must be asked if she wishes to proceed.

She can say yes, and she can say no. It really depends on the person. And quite frankly, it really isn’t anybody else’s business what she chooses.

When and if you get impregnated by a rapist, then you decide how best to proceed. Until then, I suggest you mind your own business.


35 posted on 08/31/2012 10:51:11 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Melas

If the woman was aware of her serious health problems, she had the opportunity to PREVENT pregnancy. A child conceived by rape or incest is a victim also. Why is it OK to kill the victim but not have the death penalty for the perpetrator?


36 posted on 08/31/2012 10:52:03 AM PDT by brightright
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To: COBOL2Java

That’s fine.

That’s between the woman, God and her doctor, and it’s not between the woman, God and her doctor and you.


37 posted on 08/31/2012 10:52:26 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
That’s between the woman, God and her doctor, and it’s not between the woman, God and her doctor and you.

IBTZ

38 posted on 08/31/2012 10:54:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day Christians stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Melas; Forgotten Amendments
You say the position is indefensible, and I say it is not. It’s the correct and moral position.

And I say you are full of it. This is exactly the same position as the Pro-Abortion democrats. Safe, rare and legal.

The mother's health scam is used as an excuse to abort any child at any time.

39 posted on 08/31/2012 10:54:47 AM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: chris37
Stop playing word games. No sane person is in favor of the purposeful killing of infants.

I guess he is insane then?

He’s “in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.”

I find this a little confusing, don't you?

40 posted on 08/31/2012 10:59:10 AM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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