Posted on 08/31/2012 9:46:46 AM PDT by Mozilla
Part of the problem is that the party works top down in most states anyway, it certainly does in Mississippi, the stae convention was scripted and committes such as nominating and rules were set and it was practically impossible to get anything they didn’t want in. The same applied to the nominating committee and the slates for convention delegates and executive committe members were closed. Our hope is to start at the county level where we have made some progress. These rule changes will now take power from the state GOP and give it to the RNC and to the presidential candidates, the problem with this is that they can now load the primaries with winner take all and non Conservative states guranteeing a big earl lead in the nomination process for the RINO candidates that will cause money and enthusiasm to dry up for Conservative candidates.
This will also make it more difficult to work our way from the county to the state level because the state party will be even more controlled by the RNC. I contacted our two rules committe delegates and one responded he cwould do what he thought was the right thing to do. I believe he did not support the minority position, I know he supported the “compromise”.
Thanks for the well done summary of what happened.
Personally, I think it was partly aimed at Ron Paul, but mostly at the Tea Party. The GOPe is not afraid of Ron Paul, but they are terrified of the Tea Party.
However, now is not the time for a Republican civil war. I’m not sure we could survive four more years of Obama.
Once this election is over it will be time to reassess the situation. Until then, my money is going partly to the NRA, partly to local Tea Party type candidates, and mostly to SarahPAC.
I am not for Ron Paul, but equally not a fan of the GOPe. I guess you have to pick you battles these days. I am 100% against the left and Obama. But I am no fan of the Rinos. It’s become a minefield.
I just know that what the GOPe did also hurt conservatives and that is what they wanted.
If it had been a true conservative candidate and they had delegates at the convention and were challenging Romney or whoever they wanted then the same thing would have been done.
You do get Santorum won plenty of Republican and Conservative leaning states and it did not do a thing to help him win the nomination. But Romney won all the Progressive Liberal states and he won the nomination. Ohio, Florida and Wisconsin are purple states which Romney won despite recent gains by Republicans. And Arizona is becoming more and more rino despite recent conservative gains and the immigration stances of Governor Jan Brewer. So that state is not really conservative. And Utah and Nevada is Mormon country. So they don’t count wither. And after the Wisconsin and Pennsylvania primaries the rest of the primaries that were falsely had just to get Romney to the magic number; don’t count. Romney was way ahead and the other candidates ended up dropping out.
That’s it for me. I’m writing in Palin and I’m leaving the republican party. Make of it what you will.
Great post.
Beginning immediately following this election, assuming a Romney win, if the Republic is to be maintained, a new conservative party MUST form in time for the next election, hoping that parties are still relevant then. Without a new party the best we can hope for is a protracted continuation of the Depression and more creeping socialism. Should the kenyan win, of course, it is all gone and European style socialism will prove a fleeting stage on the way to full blown Utopian Socialism and all the ramifications that history shows ineluctably ensue..
I’ll be on the ballot in Florida, and I would appreciate your vote.
Votes for Palin will not be counted unless she files.
We’re five years into that task. We started with the nomination of John Judas McCain. I hope you’ll check us out.
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And you pretend it's Mozilla who's shilling for the "Democrats?"
Pretty badly bent, there, crease-wad.
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It’s a question of “proper delegates” . The Paulers were very open about their plans to disrupt the convention. There were posts all over the internet and even a couple of law suits over the delegates and their plans. (some states had already changed some their rules because of the Paulers, the problem isn’t new)
The talk on the internet was about finding enough delegates from a single state to cause a problem. They tried Colorado first, then WA state and Wisconsin, but finally had to settle for Maine, where the most wishy washy Republicans in the country reside (just look at Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins).
The plan was not to win anything, but to just cause trouble and hurt Mitt Romney. The rule change may have been draconian, but it is the fault of the Paulers. The behavior of the Paulers on the floor of the convention the first night was despicable, also. I saw one young girl, sitting conspicuously on the end of an aisle, trying to look bored, but almost breaking into a smile when the camera picked her up. They were walking around, getting up, going out in the aisles and back again during the speeches, trying to be a distracting as possible. I think that security should have told them to leave the floor if they got up out of their seats, until the speech was over, and not let anyone back on the floor while there was someone speaking.
The Paulers aren’t just trying to hurt the Republicans, they are trying to hurt the country.
No, it's not time to move on. The fight is NOW, and we are engaged with all guns blazing against the corrupt, decrepit GOP-E.
There is no question in my mind that Romney is a political animal that knows how to organize and orchestrate to get things done. Perhaps he really is the shrewdest candidate, able to push that Marxist out of the White House. Romney couldn’t be much worse than Obama, so I guess he is tolerable for now. After the election, conservatives need to figure how to regain control of the Republican party, because a third party would split the vote and guarantee the Democrats win.
"Should the Kenyan win, of course, it is all gone and European style socialism will prove a fleeting stage on the way to full blown civil war with our streets running ankle deep with the blood of patriots and traitors."
IMHO.
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Lesson #1) NEVER run multiple conservatives against ONE Republican Establishment candidate and expect to have enough votes among the split votes to overcome and ultimately defeat the RINO.
Oh, brother, well keep fighting, because at this point, you are only shadow boxing.
The problem was that we had 4 or 5 conservatives that badly split the vote. At the end, we had Gingrich and Santorum and neither would concede, each arguing that they were the better candiate and as a result, Romney ended up winning by a plurality because conservatives split their vote. It was not the GOP-e that gave us Romney, but rather the egos of the other candidates.
I hear you (and others) on the whole establishment vs the grass roots thing, but I don’t see this power play as being anti conservative/grass roots, but rather an action that they felt that they had to take to fend off the Paul supporters attempt to blow up Romney’s convention. Doesn’t make it right, I know, but Romney is the nominee whether we like it or not, and the selfish, self-interested and immature Paul supporters wanted to give Romney a bloody nose at the convention. They made this action necessary.
“Still here propagandizing for the Democrats huh bot boy?”
Huh? That comment makes less sense than, say, a screen door on a submarine.
Part of the problem is that the party works top down in most states anyway
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