Posted on 09/01/2012 7:45:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
Yup, Romney took the opportunity, now that the fix was in, to reiterate his true position on abortion rights. Guess that makes all his RTL Mittbots fools, and now liars.
Not necessarily. See my #56.
“I’m pro-life but I also don’t think a woman should be forced to carry a rapists child to term that was conceived at gunpoint. For most, that visit to the Emergency Room and the medication given will prevent the pregnancy in the earliest possible time frame”.
Agreed, a rapist is an evil person and passing that offspring should not be forced upon the victim.
I have yet to find a single person who favors that rape exception who wants to also execute the rapist. So why is it you prefer rapists before babies?
You guys are ignoring the bombshell here, the ‘health of mother’ position is a pure, pro-abortion position, and he only reverted back to his pro-abortion position this week, after clinching the nomination.
“Health” is how they got us in the 1960s, the general public of the time didn’t know that health included everything, it was (and is) a euphemism for ‘abortion on demand’.
To come out as still pro-abortion after all the incredible levels of lying since 2005, and to claim that he openly campaigned as a ‘health of mother’ abortion advocate during the primary campaign, the campaign that we were all deeply involved in, and for which we know every detail and nuance, is a story of such mendacity that this is a time for serious conservative discussion of what this man is, and what he can do to conservatism.
If conservatism exists, then this bombshell should be THE current subject of conservative discussion, this is an explosive revelation and insight into his intent.
It seems to me that the conception part is part of the rape. Isn’t that what sex is all about? One could argue that the “innocent child” is an accessory after the fact to the crime.
I consider myself to be staunchly pro-life. I’ve never supported a rape/incest exception, but I have always supported a life of the mother exception. When it’s about whether or not you could die, I think that actually should be a choice that women should make and live with the consequences. Who am I to force someone to potentially sacrifice their life for someone else? I suspect most would make the heroic decision anyway if faced with that choice...but I’m curious whether this makes me insufficiently pro-life in your eyes?
And let’s not forget the alternative to Romney is Obama, who is for abortion in all circumstances. In addition he is behind a bill that says when the baby survives an abortion a physician should be assigned to finish the job (infanticide>.
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Specious nonsense.
Some things are beyond our control. Sometimes evil gains the upper hand, for a moment, for a day, for a season. And yet, an injustice done to us, no matter how heinous, does not excuse an even greater injustice done to another innocent person. Killing the child of rape is a gross injustice. It is barbaric. It is un-American.
You are kidding right? Jeb Bush intervened to keep her alive.
Just some resources:
Hard cases:
http://www.theunchoice.com/hardcases.htm
Coercion
http://www.theunchoice.com/coerced.htm
I grew up in the world before RvW made everything, anytime, for any reason legal everywhere in the US.
If Romney actually takes us back to that before RvW standard with those exceptions, then the feminists will vilify and hate him and the pro-life purists will vilify him and hate him, but I'll thank him for retaking the ground lost to RvW and for saving the lives of those who would be lost otherwise.
To me, that would not be the perfect thing, but it would be a good thing.
That may well be the absolute worst thing I've ever seen posted on FR.
I stand in awe of the depths folks will plumb, all to support the pro-abort democrat socialist former governor of Massachusetts.
I wonder where the bottom is of this hole you all are digging for yourselves...
That would be like being born into slavery, guilt is not passed down in the blood stream.
And Yes the Child is ALWAYS innocent. That is part of being a child.
I love it, Pastor. Short, to the point, and completely factual. How about it, EV?
That hole always ends in several different mass graves.
You proved my point by ignoring it.
BY FORCING THE RAPE VICTIM TO HAVE THE RAPISTS BABY YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE HER SUFFER MORE, MUCH MORE. YOU ARE ALSO FORCING THE RAPISTS WILL ON THE VICTIM.
Address that.
I have nothing more to say to someone who can look at a little child and say that you would have been fine with murdering them.
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