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Young Iraqis face religious fashion crackdown
CBS news ^ | 30 August 2012 | Sameer N Yacoub

Posted on 09/03/2012 7:45:17 AM PDT by Cronos

For much of Iraq's youth, sporting blingy makeup, slicked-up hair and skintight jeans is just part of living the teenage dream. But for their elders, it's a nightmare.

A new culture rift is emerging in Iraq, as young women replace shapeless cover-ups with ankle-baring skirts and tight blouses, while men strut around in revealing slacks and spiky haircuts. The relatively skimpy styles have prompted Islamic clerics in at least two Iraqi cities to mobilize the "fashion police" in the name of protecting religious values

... This is a conflict playing out across the Arab world, where conservative Islamic societies grapple with the effects of Western influence, especially the most obvious — the way their young choose to dress.

...But over the last several years, following the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and the fall of dictator Saddam Hussein, Western styles have crept into Iraq's fashion palate. Form-fitting clothing, stylish shoes and men's edgy hairstyles are commonly seen on the street. Some younger women have even begun to forgo the hijab, or headscarf.

.."Legs can be seen, there are low-cut shirts," Jawad lamented. "And all, very, very tight. I think these Iraqis who are wearing these things have come back from Syria, Dubai and Egypt. They probably spent too much time in nightclubs. The families in Kazimiyah are conservative. These young people — nobody can control them. They should be given freedoms, but they should know their limits."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; islam
Perhaps it can go back to how it was under Saddam in the 80s, when religious extremists were kept away.
1 posted on 09/03/2012 7:45:18 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I do not care a wit for what these people do—how they dress or kill each other. That’s their business. The Nation building thing only works in nations that are modern in their thinking—like Germany and Japan. Give it a rest and let the troops come home. Let the Iraqi people sort out their own rulers. Maybe they need a bloody despot like Saddam? Like Russia needs a strong man like Putin? Its their choice—not ours.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 7:53:49 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Cronos

Is there a human right to dress — or undress — any way we please in public? I see the Iraqi religious authorities as doing only what or ancestors would have done before World War II. If George Washington were to come back to life in modern America, he would be appalled at how we dress— and not just the women.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 8:02:44 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: Socon-Econ

there is a balance. It’s somewhere between a burqa and a bikini... What the mullahs are asking for is a strict burqa...


4 posted on 09/03/2012 8:07:12 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Socon-Econ

http://youtu.be/7TSiJ2Gp058

I think you need to re assess your view of legal and ethical and moral. You seem to feel it is okay to tell others how to behave, dress, and think. And don’t quite understand the God given freedom and Natural Law that ALL men and women are granted by their creator. And George Washington would be appalled at the way people force others to do things against NATURAL LAW. You should watch Bill Whittle’s video above and see what real conservative thinkers are saying, before you make such statements.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:59 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Amen!


6 posted on 09/03/2012 9:16:31 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: King_Corey
"I think you need to re assess your view of legal and ethical and moral. You seem to feel it is okay to tell others how to behave, dress, and think. And don’t quite understand the God given freedom and Natural Law that ALL men and women are granted by their creator."

So, is it our job to go around the world and topple every government that doesn't grant these rights? It that what you're suggesting?

7 posted on 09/03/2012 9:22:40 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: King_Corey

I think you need to re assess your view of legal and ethical and moral.

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So you think you have a libertarian right to walk naked in public, to marry your mother, to kill unborn children,etc? Without at least some moral rules,a society collapses. In the USA, we don’t have to dress women in burqas; but we shouldn’t sneer at moslems for wanting a stricter dress code than ours.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 9:59:32 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: Celtic Cross
I suggested no such thing, you apparently did NOT watch the video. It is IMHO WRONG to think that an Iraqi or Russian or Chinese is not allowed to have the same freedom we have, because it isn't about where they are or what sham of a government is around, we are all born FREE.

So go back, watch the video, then reflect upon what we as AMERICANS hold as the truth.

Do all that you agree to do. (The basis of Contract Law)

Do not encroach upon other persons or their property. (The Basis of Natural and Criminal Law.)

To expect other places to come to the highest standard is an expectation of better of the human spirit, better of mankind, better of everyone.

Nowhere did I say AMERICANS were to go there and make it happen, we must lead by example, and throwing out socialist democrats is the 1st best way to show it.
9 posted on 09/03/2012 10:03:09 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: Socon-Econ

I believe in school uniforms, and sneering at moslems for their ridiculous dress codes.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 10:03:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Socon-Econ

Wow, didn’t watch the video, just made an assumption. Where is the harm in someone wearing skinny jeans? Far stretch from naked. What hyperbole, are you a DU Troll?


11 posted on 09/03/2012 10:04:31 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: Socon-Econ

“but we shouldn’t sneer at moslems for wanting a stricter dress code than ours.”

That’s not what they want. They want women in subjugation. It has nothing to do with “dress code”.


12 posted on 09/03/2012 10:33:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: King_Corey

Wow, didn’t watch the video, just made an assumption. Where is the harm in someone wearing skinny jeans? Far stretch from naked. What hyperbole, are you a DU Troll?
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I used the “naked” argument to show that we have to draw the line somewhere. My observation that the Moslems draw the line about where Americans in Abraham Lincoln’s day would draw it does not make me a troll.


13 posted on 09/03/2012 10:41:09 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: Socon-Econ

I kinda like an attractive woman wearing a sexy outfit as opposed to a sackcloth. Somehow I don’t think you’ve dated many hot woman.


14 posted on 09/03/2012 10:47:26 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Socon-Econ

The lack of wigs on men would be scandalous for him, along with modern medicine, religious freedom, and people other than male landowners voting.

To use even contemplate applying the social standards of yesteryear to the current time is inane at best. While I may not agree with some of the things being done, overall be are a better society.


15 posted on 09/03/2012 11:13:49 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Socon-Econ

You used the “Naked” argument to imply I had no standards, and pushed a rational explanation to Hyperbole as an argument. Your rhetoric is outside the norm, not mine.

While you may not be a DU Troll, this activity is much like Trolling, where you imply a person is an extremist by twisting what they say and exaggerating their statement.


16 posted on 09/03/2012 11:34:13 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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