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Campaign says Romney misspoke, does not support abortion for ‘health’ of the mother: pro-life leader
LifeSiteNews ^ | August 31, 2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 09/03/2012 8:07:13 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

Tampa – Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney misspoke this week when he said he believed abortion should be permitted if a doctor says the “health” of the mother might be compromised, according to the leader of one of the nation’s leading pro-life organizations.

Mitt Romney “My position has been clear throughout this campaign,” Romney told CBS News. “I’m in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.”

Romney had not previously included maternal “health,” an exception pro-abortion activists have interpreted so broadly that it essentially justifies abortion under any circumstances.

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer this week that she had spoken with a campaign official, who confirmed the former governor did not favor such an expansive exception.

“If that were his position, he would never have received our endorsement, that’s for sure,” Dannenfelser said. “I have heard clarification from his spokesperson, restating what his position really is, which is rape, incest, life of the mother. That is his position. Those are his exceptions.”

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Perhaps kinda like when Obama was talking about his "Muslim faith".
1 posted on 09/03/2012 8:07:20 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Look, if there’s an entoptic pregnancy and leaving the baby/fetus in the tube will end up killing them both, that to me is the “health of the mother.” Killing a full term baby because the mother is depressed is not “health of the mother.” So it’s a slippery slope and I know that.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:37 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Did he misspeak every-time or just this time?

Romney is not pro-life.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:52 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Romney or Obama will be the next President

Romney agrees with 85% of our position. Obama is 100% opposed to everything we claim to be for.

Obama is pro infanticide, Romney is not.

So why are some of you so desperate to help reelect a Pro-infanticide President?

That might not be the intent of your actions, it is the result of them


4 posted on 09/03/2012 8:12:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: svcw

Romney or Obama will be the next President

Romney agrees with 85% of our position. Obama is 100% opposed to everything we claim to be for.

Obama is pro infanticide, Romney is not.

So why are some of you so desperate to help reelect a Pro-infanticide President?

That might not be the intent of your actions, it is the result of them


5 posted on 09/03/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

So you’re voting for Obama?


6 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:56 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Usually the Susan B. Anthony List has done good work. I have often donated a bit to them. But I think that Dannenfelser is deluding herself this time, probably out of anxiety to depose Obama, by hook or by crook.

Romney is a congenital liar, with a history of baby killing. Maybe he wouldn’t go as far as to throw a born-alive baby out on the roof, to die in the sun, as Obama would. But that’s about the extent of his “pro-life” beliefs.


7 posted on 09/03/2012 8:17:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mercat

I think the word we are looking for is “life” of the mother. Health includes mental health which can include - “If I have this baby I’ll go nuts.”.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 8:17:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

The correction by Romney’s campaign was issued quickly...but some are still insisting he is backtracking. I will trust the pro-life organizations over the people who are intent on demonizing Romney no matter what happens.


9 posted on 09/03/2012 8:21:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mercat
Ectopic pregnancy is "life of the mother" not merely "health." Pre-eclampsia is another pregnancy-related threat to the "life of the mother." It accounts for a number of maternal deaths.

Other sources of risk to the "health" of the mother in pregnancy can generally be managed with medical care and abortion is not necessary.

10 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:47 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MNJohnnie

Our positions - what like pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, pro-government mandates, pro-government run health care, pro-man made global warming, higher taxes, bigger government (just going by his record)........

Those aren’t my positions.

Listen vote for Romney that is a choice you and you alone make.

To say that someone who opposes Romney and his liberalism is in favor of infanticide, maybe one of the stupidest things on FR ever.

As a side note all abortion is infanticide.


11 posted on 09/03/2012 8:25:07 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Mercat

Its not a slippery slope. Please learn about the principle of double effect.


12 posted on 09/03/2012 8:26:32 AM PDT by impimp
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To: DManA
That's correct. Pre-Roe California had a liberal abortion policy that included allowing abortion for the "health" of the mother. There sprang up a host of psychiatrists who made a comfy living by certifying that pregnancy was a threat to mothers' mental health.

Ethical doctors know that abortion is more hazardous to mental health than live birth is.

13 posted on 09/03/2012 8:27:28 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MNJohnnie

First of all, I do not agree that Romney agrees with 85% of “our” position. But, even if he did, the inexorable trend is our bigger problem. Even if Romney agrees with 85% of our position, the trend means that the next President will agree with 75%, then the next one with 50%, and the next one with 35%.

And, one of the key points that people miss is that a segment of the Party is working and hoping for this result. They are hoping that it will be a battle in which we will lay down our weapons and accept the increasingly (ahem) moderate position. They are claiming to be interested in conservative values while working to undermine those values.

The pre-Romney wavering wasn’t their end goal. Romney isn’t their end goal. They hope for something/someone even more liberal.

We have to stop the direction that the Party is heading. We have to speak out while speaking out is still allowed.

You all know that Romney isn’t a social conservative. We have come to this point that a social (ahem) moderate is our standard bearer because the liberal wing of the Party knows that conservatives can be scared or bluffed or bullied into voting for whomever liberals manage to get nominated. We are plantation workers willingly voting for increasingly liberal candidates each election cycle.

We are near the bottom of the slippery slope. People are wading hip-deep in the cesspool at the bottom and trying to convince us that it doesn’t smell so bad.

I may be pushed in, but I won’t voluntarily jump.


14 posted on 09/03/2012 8:28:13 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Even if Romney agrees with 85% of our position, the trend means that the next President will agree with 75%...

What trend are you talking about??

15 posted on 09/03/2012 8:31:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: svcw
To say that someone who opposes Romney and his liberalism is in favor of infanticide, maybe one of the stupidest things on FR ever.

Well, it's certainly fair to say that someone who opposes Romney finds it preferable to reject the 85% solution in favor of a ZERO-bama outcome.

16 posted on 09/03/2012 8:33:18 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Get Mitt in first Freepers--THEN we straighten him out and primary his ass out if he doesn't listen in spite of the damn rule changes the GOP-e put in last week to stop us (luckily rule changes mean the precedent of rule changes are ALLOWED for the first time which the Romney/Rove dumasses obviously didn't think about before), So 2012 and beyond is a free for all RINO hunt using the colonial anarchy empowerment the Founders exploited to create our nation...

...the reestablishment of observable evolution and Divine intervention aka natural law and God...it had to happen because such blessings are eternal outside of perdition.

17 posted on 09/03/2012 8:36:39 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: hinckley buzzard

Nobody in their right mind would be supporting Obama because they believe in the Pro-Life cause. These Ron Paul Trolls have been doing this crap for months on end. They could not care less about the life issue. They are liars out to deceive the weak minded, out to destroy and make way for their savior Ron Paul in 2016. FURP.


18 posted on 09/03/2012 8:40:05 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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Mitt's position, whether you believe that he will carry out his position or not, is that "...the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade...".

Understand that if Roe v. Wade is over turned, a president's position on the "health of the mother exceptions" becomes irrelevant.

19 posted on 09/03/2012 8:41:18 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoFloFreeper

The correction by Romney’s campaign was issued quickly

Quickly? Five days later? Quickly would have been a few hours later. He hears the grumbling so he politically is changing his mind. I am voting for him but lets not delude ourselves about this guy.


20 posted on 09/03/2012 8:43:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: FreeReign

What trend am I talking about? That would take volumes. But here is a sample, discussing the homosexual agenda, that I posted three years ago (so the time frame in the comment is now three years older). And people who simply state that they believe that homosexuality is wrong are increasingly being fired, fined, kept from graduating from college, and jailed. If you don’t understand that trend (which would require another volume) you need to get up to speed on it and multitudes of others in our culture. Unfortunately, much of the recent trends have taken place with Republican approval and even complicity. But that also is another story. Here is one snippet, from three years ago, of one trend:

“Forty-seven years ago, homosexual behavior was not legally endorsed anywhere in the United States. Five years ago, it was still illegal in thirteen states. Now, due to the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Lawrence v. Texas, it is legal in all fifty states.

“Nineteen years ago, homosexual civil unions were not legal anywhere in the world. Eight years ago, homosexual civil unions were not permitted anywhere in the U.S.

“Seven years ago, homosexual marriages were not legal anywhere in the world. Five years ago, homosexual marriages were not legal anywhere in the United States–nor anywhere else in the world outside of the Netherlands.

“Five years ago, there were no openly homosexual bishops sanctioned by mainline churches in the United States. Three years ago, even the European Union wouldn’t have threatened to revoke a country’s membership, as they are now doing with Poland, because of their laws against homosexual behavior. Until recently, no major American industrial giant like Ford Motor Company would donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to sponsor homosexual causes. Until recently no one would have thought that there would be a camp limited to homosexual teenagers that was designed to encouraged them to become homosexual activists, as is the case with the Triangle Foundation’s Detroit-area camp. Until recently no head of a major denomination would have said that it is not a sin to be a homosexual, as Jefferts Schori of the Episcopal Church recently did. Until recently no one would have imagined that a school district would require posters even in kindergarten and first grade classrooms, as was done by the San Leandro, California school district, that highlight the words “lesbian”, “gay”, “bisexual”, “transgender”, and “questioning”.”


21 posted on 09/03/2012 8:45:29 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Read your comment again. You said the following...

First of all, I do not agree that Romney agrees with 85% of “our” position. But, even if he did, the inexorable trend is our bigger problem. Even if Romney agrees with 85% of our position, the trend means that the next President will agree with 75%, then the next one with 50%, and the next one with 35%.

Your comment implies that the last president, or the last Republican president, or the last Republican nominee agreed with our positions 95%.

McCain, Dole, Bush and Bush II weren't ninety-five percenters. There is no trend as you describe.

22 posted on 09/03/2012 8:55:51 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Accordsing to those who crafted the “right to life” plank in the RNC platform at the convention - calling for a Constitutional amendment calling for proctection for the right to life of the unborn, and with no exceptions mentioned, that was not because they believed that, in the end, there might not be exceptions.

Their belief, and I think they are correct, is that to the extent that there are any exceptions, or not, it will be a legislative matter left up to the states, as the Constitutional amendment revokes Roe-v-Wade and throws the issue back in their arena.

Most of our “rights” including Freedom of Speech, etc., have also never been without exceptions, with the exceptions mostly pertaining to context - such a you can’t shout “fire” in a crowded theater just to watch everyone trample over each other to get out.

And, no one should think that contextual exceptions to the rights in the Bill of Rights are new - they’re not; they have existed in Federal law and in the laws of the states since the founding of rhe Republic, so one should believe that “without exception” was part of what the founders understood, because it was not.

All I am warning everyone about is that even if a right-to-life amendment were adopted, and even if repeal of Roe-v-Wade were part of it, the net result would revert the matter the legislatures of the states, and that will result in some exceptions being legislated in, and then some will obtain challenges that will go all the way to the Supreme court, and I doubt very much that the Supreme court, no matter who sits on it, will reject every exception.

So, quit arguing over how “right-to-life” Romney is, because that will matter far less, in total, than will a right-to-life Constitutional amendment.

I believe the right-to-life movement has focused too much energy on Presidential politics and not enough getting state legislatures to sign onto a right-to-life Constitutional amendment; because even if such amendment starts as a Federal Congress proposal, it will still require enough support in state legislatures, or it will not succeed.

The GOP has had a right-to-life Constitutional amendment in the RNC platform for many years. I think only once was that amendment proposed in legislation in Congress.

My boss used to tell me, when I thought I was looking at a problem wrong - “You’re looking at the hole, not the Doughnut.”

I think, when it comes to a right-to-life Constitutional amendment, state legislatures are the Doughnut and everything else is the hole. State legislatures speak for the voice of their state. It seems difficult to believe that if 2/3 of them passed legislation proposing a Constitutional amendment that their own legislators would turn around and vote against it.

Until the right to life movement has a significan body of state legislatures on it’s side, they should quit hanging the enire issue on candidates for President.


23 posted on 09/03/2012 8:57:54 AM PDT by Wuli (`1)
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To: BlatherNaut

Fair - nope.
Stupid - yes.
Romney supports homosexual agenda, abortion, man made global warming, big government, higher taxes, government mandates, government health care, gun grabbing, stimulus bail outs..........his governing style is liberalism.
You want to support 85% of that be my guest, I am not.


24 posted on 09/03/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Do you realize that if obama is reelected, we will likely never be the same country again? Do you think we have the luxury to take that chance?


25 posted on 09/03/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer this week that she had spoken with a campaign official, who confirmed the former governor did not favor such an expansive exception.

I heard it from the grapevine...

Mitt's lips are moving but no sound it coming out, LOL.

26 posted on 09/03/2012 9:04:19 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: ynotjjr
Nobody in their right mind would be supporting Obama because they believe in the Pro-Life cause. These Ron Paul Trolls have been doing this crap for months on end. They could not care less about the life issue. They are liars out to deceive the weak minded, out to destroy and make way for their savior Ron Paul in 2016. FURP.

I've been noticing these ostensibly irrational posts for months. Some of them are likely Obama supporters IRL.

You're right that no rational pro-lifer would find Obama (who opposed the Born Alive Act, attacked the Catholic Church's right to religious freedom regarding life issues, and instituted Obamacare, which increases abortion funding as well as the number of abortions) preferable to Romney, who holds the exact opposite positions.

27 posted on 09/03/2012 9:07:41 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: MNJohnnie

28 posted on 09/03/2012 9:10:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: FreeReign
McCain, Dole, Bush and Bush II weren't ninety-five percenters. There is no trend as you describe.

Sigh....

Although I have disagreed much with those whom you name, to not know Romney's history, after all that has been posted even on this site, is discouraging. Even if you can discount his supposed change of views on abortion, you have to understand that Mitt Romney was one of the pioneer activists within the Republican Party for the homosexual agenda. His positions have always been more radical than those of even McCain, Dole, or either of the Bushes.
29 posted on 09/03/2012 9:10:23 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
If The United States Constitution, as interpreted by the SCOTUS in a 5-4 decision in the case of “Obama versus Almighty God”, is proclaimed null and void will the Articles of Confederation be dusted off and implemented as the once defunct but now refulgent law of the nation in observance of the sacrosanct English Common Law concept of stare decisis?

Stare decisis is not just a legal concept for today's world you know...and as America ends I will encourage my new nation my state my South Carolina as under the Articles to furiously print our money and to quickly furnish our military with the tools of defense in case the North Carolina, Tennessee and Georgia barbarians rush our gates..

30 posted on 09/03/2012 9:13:22 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Glad to see the correction!


31 posted on 09/03/2012 9:13:48 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth Income = Net Work)
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To: BlatherNaut

Romney is not pro-life.
Because a person points out that Romney is not pro-life, only translates to the confused as support for obama.


32 posted on 09/03/2012 9:15:44 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: stocksthatgoup
Glad to see the correction!

All it took was a quick shake of that Etch-A-Sketch!

33 posted on 09/03/2012 9:20:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: MNJohnnie

Romney agrees with 85% of our position. RomneyCare, gay marriage, same sex adoptions. cap & trade, free wheels for welfare. trying to force Catholic Hospitals to provide abortions, etc. A record any liberal would be proud of.


34 posted on 09/03/2012 9:21:59 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright

Bingo!


35 posted on 09/03/2012 9:23:41 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: svcw
You want to support 85% of that be my guest, I am not.

Romney wants to defund planned parenthood, shrink government, strengthen the military, stand up to Iran, renew ties with our traditional allies (those whom Obama has scorned), and wants to rebuild the economy by reducing taxes, government spending and government regulation.

He also opposes abortions except for the stated exceptions, although ultimately, his position is only relevant in regard to national policy such as Obamacare (which he has pledged to repeal) because Roe vs. Wade is, unfortunately, the law of the land.

36 posted on 09/03/2012 9:29:27 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Romney facing Tea Party majorities in both Houses in Congress is a cooperative Romney...they have the mandate not him and if they can vote out RINOs Boehner and McConnell from the leadership all may be well.
37 posted on 09/03/2012 9:33:54 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: BlatherNaut

Just going by his long political record, not his flapping gums today.


38 posted on 09/03/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Could it be they polled Missourians? Romney and crew did get in a dither over ‘misspoken words’ not more than a couple weeks ago.
39 posted on 09/03/2012 9:34:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Is there ANYONE here that REALLY believes Romney is pro-life? God I hope not. Because if you do, you’ll be taken advantage of your entire life.


40 posted on 09/03/2012 9:40:14 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
McCain, Dole, Bush and Bush II weren't ninety-five percenters. There is no trend as you describe.

Sigh.... Although I have disagreed much with those whom you name, to not know Romney's history, after all that has been posted even on this site, is discouraging.

Please don't post that nonsense to me.

How you logically conclude that I don't know Romney's history is beyond me.

The claim by another poster was that Romney was 85% conservative. For the sake of argument, you went along with that percentage as did I (for the sake of argument).

You then claimed that an 85% Romney was a trend down to which I simply pointed out to you that it isn't. I then gave the clear examples of McCain Dole, Bush, Bush II.

Anyway, here's how I see the situation.

Romney is running on a conservative platform and Romney has a liberal record as governor of Massachusetts. Now compare that to Obama, who has been a Marxist and who promises not to change.

41 posted on 09/03/2012 9:41:41 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: BlatherNaut
Romney wants to defund planned parenthood wonder if he'll keep up with his donations then,

shrink government wonder how that will work since he wants to replace obamacare with his own plans,

strengthen the military wonder how that will work since he is supportive of homosexuals serving openly,

stand up to Iran wonder how another war,

renew ties with our traditional allies (those whom Obama has scorned) wonder how he will do that, talk to them, invite them to the White House, give them more taxpayer money,

and wants to rebuild the economy by reducing taxes ) wonder how he will do that, it's not how he government in MA,

government spending wonder if he'll use the same plan as MA

and government regulation wonder if you are counting replacing obamacare with his plan in that.

42 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:01 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Happy Rain
Romney facing Tea Party majorities in both Houses in Congress is a cooperative Romney...they have the mandate not him and if they can vote out RINOs Boehner and McConnell from the leadership all may be well.

That would be ideal.

43 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:06 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: RIghtwardHo
Mitt is pro-life as long as we make him so—he just wants to win and then be reelected.

As long as the Tea Party can hold on he will kiss our butts until his second term—which will not happen if we can help it cuz we know what a flip flopper he is so...

PALIN 2016!!! (in spite of the RNC rule changes last week)

44 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:57 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: napscoordinator

No, I remember the day it happened Andrea Saul, the woman people attacked for Romney Care, issued a clarifying statement within 24 hours.


45 posted on 09/03/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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the Romney supporters here should tell us which conservatives they are actively supporting in their town/state. Or is it just Mitt? All things presidential?

ACTIVELY supporting.


46 posted on 09/03/2012 9:50:31 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Romney said he would repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare. He recently stated how proud he is of RomneyCare. Gee I wonder what he will replace it with.


47 posted on 09/03/2012 9:51:13 AM PDT by brightright
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To: BlatherNaut
Of course the, we hope, selfless actions of Akin are vital to this scenario--but I have doubts the egotistical sonofabitch cares more about the nation than his own dumass pride.
48 posted on 09/03/2012 9:51:40 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: svcw
Hey, lets keep kicking Romney. There must be more out there that would make your candidate look better, keep looking. You know we have a candidate, not what everyone wanted but it is Romney and no amount of crying will change that. Now enough bitching might beat Romney but then you have to look at the alternative. Deep down I think all you out there carping that Romney isn't perfect are really looking for more nanny state. Maybe Mommy needs you too.
49 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:01 AM PDT by JayAr36 (America is swirling around the drain, someone put in the plug.)
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To: svcw

this site should just ban mitt articles. Pro or Con. Conservatives should be focused on other things. House. Senate. State House.

U are what U read. U are what they write.


50 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:45 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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