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Campaign says Romney misspoke, does not support abortion for ‘health’ of the mother: pro-life leader
LifeSiteNews ^ | August 31, 2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 09/03/2012 8:07:13 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
McCain, Dole, Bush and Bush II weren't ninety-five percenters. There is no trend as you describe.

Sigh.... Although I have disagreed much with those whom you name, to not know Romney's history, after all that has been posted even on this site, is discouraging.

Please don't post that nonsense to me.

How you logically conclude that I don't know Romney's history is beyond me.

The claim by another poster was that Romney was 85% conservative. For the sake of argument, you went along with that percentage as did I (for the sake of argument).

You then claimed that an 85% Romney was a trend down to which I simply pointed out to you that it isn't. I then gave the clear examples of McCain Dole, Bush, Bush II.

Anyway, here's how I see the situation.

Romney is running on a conservative platform and Romney has a liberal record as governor of Massachusetts. Now compare that to Obama, who has been a Marxist and who promises not to change.

41 posted on 09/03/2012 9:41:41 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: BlatherNaut
Romney wants to defund planned parenthood wonder if he'll keep up with his donations then,

shrink government wonder how that will work since he wants to replace obamacare with his own plans,

strengthen the military wonder how that will work since he is supportive of homosexuals serving openly,

stand up to Iran wonder how another war,

renew ties with our traditional allies (those whom Obama has scorned) wonder how he will do that, talk to them, invite them to the White House, give them more taxpayer money,

and wants to rebuild the economy by reducing taxes ) wonder how he will do that, it's not how he government in MA,

government spending wonder if he'll use the same plan as MA

and government regulation wonder if you are counting replacing obamacare with his plan in that.

42 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:01 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Happy Rain
Romney facing Tea Party majorities in both Houses in Congress is a cooperative Romney...they have the mandate not him and if they can vote out RINOs Boehner and McConnell from the leadership all may be well.

That would be ideal.

43 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:06 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: RIghtwardHo
Mitt is pro-life as long as we make him so—he just wants to win and then be reelected.

As long as the Tea Party can hold on he will kiss our butts until his second term—which will not happen if we can help it cuz we know what a flip flopper he is so...

PALIN 2016!!! (in spite of the RNC rule changes last week)

44 posted on 09/03/2012 9:44:57 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: napscoordinator

No, I remember the day it happened Andrea Saul, the woman people attacked for Romney Care, issued a clarifying statement within 24 hours.


45 posted on 09/03/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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the Romney supporters here should tell us which conservatives they are actively supporting in their town/state. Or is it just Mitt? All things presidential?

ACTIVELY supporting.


46 posted on 09/03/2012 9:50:31 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Romney said he would repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare. He recently stated how proud he is of RomneyCare. Gee I wonder what he will replace it with.


47 posted on 09/03/2012 9:51:13 AM PDT by brightright
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To: BlatherNaut
Of course the, we hope, selfless actions of Akin are vital to this scenario--but I have doubts the egotistical sonofabitch cares more about the nation than his own dumass pride.
48 posted on 09/03/2012 9:51:40 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: svcw
Hey, lets keep kicking Romney. There must be more out there that would make your candidate look better, keep looking. You know we have a candidate, not what everyone wanted but it is Romney and no amount of crying will change that. Now enough bitching might beat Romney but then you have to look at the alternative. Deep down I think all you out there carping that Romney isn't perfect are really looking for more nanny state. Maybe Mommy needs you too.
49 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:01 AM PDT by JayAr36 (America is swirling around the drain, someone put in the plug.)
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To: svcw

this site should just ban mitt articles. Pro or Con. Conservatives should be focused on other things. House. Senate. State House.

U are what U read. U are what they write.


50 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:45 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: JayAr36

OH wawawawawaw
Listen you want to support Romney fine, but good grief have a brain cell and stop trying to make him into some he is not and will never be - a conservative.
But, hey all you got besides a liberal Romney is whining that if we who do not support liberalism (which is Romney) want a nanny state......no honey you got it all wrong.
The GOPe ushered in a liberal candidate and so called conservatives for reasons known only to them fell for it hook line and sinker, their only recourse now is abandon all reason and so called conservative beliefs then pretend Romney is a conservative.


51 posted on 09/03/2012 10:01:24 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Your presumption that people can’t multitask is funny.


52 posted on 09/03/2012 10:03:34 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: FreeReign
Sigh....

As far as my comments being "nonsense" and as far as there not being a trend, well, let’s just compare the last two nominees. Of those you mentioned, McCain is usually recognized as the most (ahem) moderate. Where has he and Mitt Romney stood on the homosexual agenda?

When campaigning for President in 2008, McCain came out strongly and forcefully against homosexuals serving openly in the military and against ENDA. Mitt Romney? Here ya’ go:

During his 1994 Senatorial campaign:

“I am writing to thank the Log Cabin Club…for the advice and support you have given to me during my campaign…and your endorsement is important to me because it will provide further confirmation that my campaign and approach to government is consistent with the values and vision of government we share.

“…I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for American gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent.

“…If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.”


[Note: Who was his opponent who Romney said would not serve the homosexual community as well as he would? Ted Kennedy.]

From more recent times:

“We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit….One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.

No trend? Nonsense?

Facts are stubborn things.
53 posted on 09/03/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Mercat

Life of the mother can in fact be applied with the catholic ethic concept of double effect.

As long as the intent of treating the infection that is inherent to the ectopic pregnancy is to save the mother’s life... And not to kill the child the action is ethical.

Unfortunately... The secondary effect of the treatment is that the child, who’s life was already in peril, will likely pass away.


54 posted on 09/03/2012 10:06:09 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: svcw
Romney wants to defund planned parenthood wonder if he'll keep up with his donations then,

Years ago, Ann Romney gave planned parenthood $150.00 out of their vast millions. More to the point, planned parenthood is planning to spend millions out of its Action Fund to defeat Romney.

shrink government wonder how that will work since he wants to replace obamacare with his own plans,

"In stating what he would do for health care if elected, Governor Romney noted a 5 point plan. The first of these would be returning control of health care plans to the states. To do this, he would block-grant funds for Medicaid and the uninsured, and offer the states resources to help the chronically ill. Second, he would alter the tax code to give the same benefits that large corporations get for providing coverage to individual and small companies. Third, he proposes lowering government regulation by allowing people to purchase health insurance across state lines, lessening state regulations on insurance packages, and allowing small companies to pool into groups to lower cost. This would be coupled with a requirement that insurance companies provide coverage for people with pre-existing conditions if those people have consistently maintained coverage. Fourth, the medical liability system should be reformed to prevent abuse. Finally, Governor Romney states that health care should be made more like a consumer market and less like a government program. This is done, in part, by eliminating the minimum deductible requirement"

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Governor/Massachusetts/Mitt_Romney/Views/Health_Care/

strengthen the military wonder how that will work since he is supportive of homosexuals serving openly,

They've always been there (as many of us know firsthand). They need to be held to the same standard of behavior re fraternization as everybody else. Throw the book at them if they cross the line.

stand up to Iran wonder how another war,

Ever heard of "Peace Through Strength"?

and wants to rebuild the economy by reducing taxes ) wonder how he will do that, it's not how he government in MA,

"This is politics, so there is hyperbole on both sides. And there's always disagreement about what can be categorized as a tax increase or cut.

The bottom line is that Romney cut some taxes as governor. But he also faced a big budget deficit when he took office in 2003, so he raised revenue as well."

http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/31/news/economy/Romney_tax_record/index.htm

55 posted on 09/03/2012 10:10:39 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: svcw

I wouldn’t mind if you Pro-Obama types were banned from this site. The average IQ level would skyrocket immediately.


56 posted on 09/03/2012 10:11:18 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: svcw

I wouldn’t mind if you Pro-Obama types were banned from this site. The average IQ level would skyrocket immediately.


57 posted on 09/03/2012 10:16:03 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Get out of denial! You have two realistic choices. Romney or Obama. Choose!


58 posted on 09/03/2012 10:18:32 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: BlatherNaut; All

“Well, it’s certainly fair to say that someone who opposes Romney finds it preferable to reject the 85% solution in favor of a ZERO-bama outcome.”


Keep in mind the 85 percent number is completely made up. That’s usually the case with pro-Mittens arguments. They just make up random numbers or philosophical arguments with a false premise. To be honest I can’t think of any issue where we actually agree with Mittens on, primarily because he changes his position so often and LIES so blatantly that it’s hard to believe anything that is contrary to his actual record, which is also full of lies and obfuscation. For example, his support of gay marriage on the sly in MA, even though he pretended to be publicly against it, while at the same time meeting with the log cabin Republicans.

It be nice if the Mitt Romney supporters who pull random math out of their butts could show me in his record and in his history of lies something I can agree with. Because, honestly, I can’t find anything.


59 posted on 09/03/2012 10:22:20 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: ynotjjr

“Nobody in their right mind would be supporting Obama because they believe in the Pro-Life cause. These Ron Paul Trolls have been doing this crap for months on end. They could not care less about the life issue. They are liars out to deceive the weak minded, out to destroy and make way for their savior Ron Paul in 2016. FURP.”


What’s funny about this is that you’re basically bashing the owner of this site who essentially agrees with every position Conservative freepers on this site have, and then you even throw in that we are liars out to deceive the weak minded. But yet, Romney is a liar out to deceive the weak minded, and you get mad that people point that out, including the owner of this forum.


60 posted on 09/03/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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