Posted on 09/03/2012 2:23:02 PM PDT by Innovative
The man is believed to have grabbed a legally owned gun after they were disturbed by the break-in early yesterday.
He is understood to have fired at the intruders who then fled the isolated house at Melton Mowbray, Leics, before calling the police.
Minutes later, an ambulance was called to treat a man with gunshot injuries nearby. It is understood that call was made by one of the suspected burglars.
A second man was later treated for gunshot injuries after arriving at Leicester Royal Infirmary, 10 miles from the scene of the shooting. Neither of the men is said to be seriously injured.
Yesterday the home owner and his wife were arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. Four men, understood to be the suspected burglars, were also arrested.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Just hope and pray that the 2nd Amendment will never be rescinded as the UN and Obama would like to see it done. And don’t expect our spineless Congress to stop Obama.
Just imagine the sudden exponential increase in the crime rate. This country will become unlivable when only the lawless are armed.
What do you mean "start"?
Standard procedure is to arrest in this case. An arrest over here is different to an arrest in the US. There is no permanent record of arrest for one thing.
The couple will be found to be acting in self-defence and no charges will be pressed.
Interestingly, the coalition govt. is issuing new guidance on exactly this kind of case in the autumn. It is said to be aiming to rid homeowners of the perceived notion you can’t use force to defend your home.
Also interestingly, the couple’s MP has spoken publicly saying that no charges should be pressed. This is not a minority view over here, despite what you may be led to believe.
This is not a minority view over here, despite what you may be led to believe.
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Thank you. So glad to read that.
But wasn’t there a case a few years ago in which a farmer was jailed for killing someone who broke into his home?
Seem that I read once that farmers are allowed to own
a rifle to defend against wild animals attacking their
cows or goats etc
Not for use against wild animals breaking down their
door in a home invasion
England is bull that has been castrated long ago
“Standard procedure is to arrest in this case. An arrest over here is different to an arrest in the US. There is no permanent record of arrest for one thing.”
...And in the meantime a law abiding couple is locked up in prison with a bunch of criminals, no problem at all! (/sarc)
“The case will reignite the debate over a householder’s right to defend his property, which began in the late 1990s after the farmer Tony Martin shot two burglars at his remote Norfolk home. In 1999, Martin fired at Brendan Fearon, 29, and Fred Barras, 16, after they broke into the house in Emneth Hungate.
Three shots were fired, Barras was hit in the back and despite escaping through a window died moments later. Martin was convicted of murder and jailed for life, which was reduced on appeal to manslaughter and five years’ jail.
In 2009, the millionaire businessman Munir Hussain fought back with a metal pole and a cricket bat against a knife-wielding burglar who tied up his family at their home in Buckinghamshire. Hussain was jailed for two and a half years, despite his attacker being spared prison.
Appeal judges reduced the sentence to a year’s jail, suspended. “
Lovely!
>I've been shot.
Where are you?
>I don't know, some stranger's home I was burglarizing.
And you were shot?
>Yes, Ma'am. ...they had guns in their home.
Calm down, I'm sending an ambulance and lawyer to immediately assist you.
No worries mate, we know how to handle their kind.
The neighbors called 911. One thing led to another and he got arrested in his own living room ~ in the future the cops aren't going to respond to any 911 calls from that house!
How commonplace is vigilantism?
And I don’t mean the “no-go” Sharia areas.
Thanks for the info. I lived in Reading for a year, so have firsthand experience on the craziness of the UK, so its nice to read your post. You don’t by any chance play guitar for Napalm Death, do you? :)
Those of us who are in ‘the know’, remember the case of the British farmer Anthony Edward “Tony” Martin (55), [1999] who after multiple burglaries of his home, shot 3 times in the dark down the stairs and killed a 16 yo burglar, Fred Barras and wounded his mate, Brendon Fearon (29), with birdshot from a pump shotgun. It later turned out that Mr Barras had been arrested 29 times before and was on bail from a previous arrest.
Mr Fearon (29), got 3 years of imprisonment, but only served 20 months and later tried to bring civil suit against this farmer (using $7,500+ public funds) until returned to jail from a later auto theft and dropping the suit in return for Mr Martin dropping his counter-suit.
Mr Martin, on the other hand, ended up convicted of murder and sentenced to Life for Mr Barras and 10 years for wounding Mr Fearon. After appeals and reductions, he ended up serving 3 years in prison.
I think that this cause celeb case has provoked reforms but for us poor Colonials, we regard it as a travesty! Britain/England has gone far too far in the protection of the criminal and in punishing the victim. So when we hear of an arrest in a case like this, it seems to us a travesty of justice!
Innovative was a faster poster than I, BUT I have more detail (#32) [grin]! It was/is a case that we here in the former Colonies, would regard as a total miscarriage of justice, yet it happened!
I'm thinking they should have been better on the first one.
Okay, thanks for the info.
Prayers for Britain. May they and we do what needs to be done, i.e., dump all of the leftist garbage and get back to Judeo-Christian principles.
After further review of the story (reading it and not just the headline), you are correct. OTOH, I can envision scenarios in which prompt application of S2 and S3 could compensate for less than perfect execution of S1. ;)
“What were they supposed to do, wait until the criminals kill them?!”
Apparently so.
From the linked article:
“In 2009, the millionaire businessman Munir Hussain fought back with a metal pole and a cricket bat against a knife-wielding burglar who tied up his family at their home in Buckinghamshire. Hussain was jailed for two and a half years, despite his attacker being spared prison.
Appeal judges reduced the sentence to a year’s jail, suspended.
The case prompted David Cameron to announce that home owners and shopkeepers would have the right to protect themselves against burglars and robbers. “
GOOD GAWD. Fight back against a knife-wielding criminal that tied up your family and go to prison. . .whereas the thug goes free (no prison time).
M86, your information is encouraging. Thanks! Hope it works out for the good folks.
Serious question: If they are going to be thrown in jail for self-defense, what is the disincentive from having people shoot their future jailers when they arrive on scene eating donuts?
I have posted this many times here, but as no one seems to take it in Stateside, I will say it again.
The reason the homeowners have been ‘arrested’ is because that is the British procedure where a burglary has been committed and the burglar has been killed or injured. It dosent happen unless the burglar/s get killed or injured.
Everyone involved gets arrested (briefly) until the police sort out the facts. In 99% of cases, the homeowners are questioned at the station and released within a hour or two.
Think of it as a purely procedural and technical arrest.
Think of it as a quirk, an odd way, but it dosent actually punish homeowners. It sounds and reads much worse than it is.
BTW, I am a victim of burglary in the UK (Sept 2008) in which I used violence to subdue the burglar (jailed for 44 months), so I KNOW the issue better than anyone here. And no I wasnt arrested, I was questioned in my own flat, and spoke further to the police at my own leisure.
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