Posted on 09/03/2012 7:01:50 PM PDT by Bronzy
EXECUTIVE ORDER--Improving Access to Mental Health Services for Veterans, Service Members, and Military Families
IMPROVING ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR VETERANS, SERVICE MEMBERS, AND MILITARY FAMILIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order as follows:
(Excerpt) Read more at whitehouse.gov ...
Thank you!!!
I may be mistaken, but I believe that if you are diagnosed and “registered” as having a mental illness of ANY kind [at the VA], you are no longer permitted to own/buy firearms.
You are correct.
5.56mm
Friederike scary...? I’m not sure what that means. I do not know Friederike.
I would suggest that vets stay away from this program at all costs. Once you get on their list as “troubled” you will never be able to get off it and you will be subject to future warrant-less actions by government agencies. Find some other method to get help if possible including private insurance, free counseling, churches, etc. This is my opinion based upon experience of others and the way government is functioning today.
Just wanted this to get out here in the real world. Thank you, too.
I did not hear about this on the MSM.
If you do, it'll be presented as all warm and fuzzy and kind and caring. Blech
Joshua is active duty in the 82nd Airborne who after several tours of tough combat duty was in the Warrior Transition Battalion at Ft. Bragg. due to his severe PTSD. They left him live off base due to his rank and when a firefighter tried to smash down his door due to a small fire that had already been extinguished on his back porch, Josh awoke to the loud sound of his door being demolished and had a PTSD flashback to combat in Afghanistan. He thought he was being attacked by insurgents.
Joshua is still in state prison being tortured by his PTSD flashbacks and being refused treatment by both the military and the North Carolina Prison system. He has harmed no one in the incident and was shot himself at least four times including twice in the face. He really needs public support.
“...enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012,...
That is by the end of the year!
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We have a WIN-N-N-NAH-H-H-H-H-H!!!!
that would be fn scary....proof reading...good thing!!!!
Their medical scope has advanced to an amazing degree and today's troops deserve no less.
But mention Vietnam and you'd better be crazy as a loon, homeless, and willing to drool on command...or one those who sat comfy in El Segundo for three years and are now just as comfy gaming the system and thus enjoying the mother of all safety nets.
Those with trouble breathing, sleeping, coping, or simply applying for help need not apply.
I agree with that. I want our troops to have the best.
I read this order as an assault on able bodied troops comming home.
What bothers me more than anything (particularly in my profession and being retired military) is knowing that some of our veterans will “blindly” go into a VA and sign “whatever” papers, just to get help...not knowing the ramifications...AND more importantly...........in the past many years the powers that be call ANYTHING, “PTSD”, when it fact it is NOT! Once again, the military is getting short schrift due to the drunken idiots we tend to call politicians, and the Marxists we tend to call “Democrats”
GOD DAMN Obammy and the b*tch he rode in on!
(rant off)
Our military is the biggest threat to his total takeover of this nation. Why would anyone believe he wants to do what's best for them?
Keep remembering Brandon Raub.
Ah, don’t get me started!
Shrink here, board certified yada yada yada - In private practice for the past three years after 22 years treating some of the sickest of the sick in all kinds of settings. Pretty darned good at what I do (meds, psychotherapy, TMS).
Just to round out the picture with a little backstory - Hospital Corpsman, shipboard, Gator Fleet, independent duty station, during the latter days of our country’s Viet Nam Adventure: saw some small action off the coasts of Cambodia and South Viet Nam when those countries fell to the Communists under our watch [or shortly after we relinquished our watch to cover our a$$es].
Back to the present: Lots of Navy and other military folks around here where I practice now, and a boatload of Vets who could use my services. The Navy hospital and Triwest/Tricare sends me dependents, which its fine unless I have to deal with their lab - who won’t send me results because I’m not a “Navy doctor” - or their primitive, 1980s-formulary pharmacy - or their pathetically poorly-trained doctors who bad-mouth me to my patients for using proven treatments that get them well. And not one of any of them - lab or pharmacy or doctors - will return my calls or send me lab results or act like I even exist. And the few times I’ve treated active duty personnel - who must get a waiver to come see me after some dissatisfaction or conflict of interest with the military healthcare system - well, let’s just say that what I hear does not inspire confidence.
Shift now to the VA, and magnify all the problems many orders of magnitude.
In my medical school training and psychiatric residency, I did rotations at both inpatient and outpatient VA facilities, and it was always the pits - the worst of the worst healthcare - wherever I was. And it was not the funding, as far as I could tell: it was the attitude. The Federal bureaucracy, in all its glory, involved in healthcare. What a travesty.
When I started my current private practice, I looked into seeing VA patients. Clinically, it was joke, and a grand exercise in headaches and frustration, and financially it was a money-looser. I said no.
And now? No matter what Executive Order Obama signs [extra-Constitutionally], until they give the Vets a voucher to go see the civilian doctor of their choice, and pay for whatever 21st century med that doctor prescribes, they can count me out, and probably count out any doctor worth their salt.
bfl
and this crap is unchallenged and in effect dec 2012
The Veterans Administration is hiring many MANY mental health professionals to “deal with this issue”...Forgive me, but that is horsechit! There is another agenda here and aiding our men and women with Post Trauma issues is NOT their main intent! and NO, I do not wear Tin foil...I just know beaurocratic and Obammy HORSECHIT when I see it!
YOU are CORRECT, SIR!
This
Executive Order” is nothing more than this Marxist Mulattos effort to disarm ANYONE trained (military) to go against this damned idiot!
thanks for being here...my blood pressure over this particular issue is SKY HIGH! I take it VERY seriously when government pukes try to play fast and loose with my men (and yes, they ARE “MY MEN” and I defy anyone to tell me otherwise! And I am a damned good shot...(and spare me the “But women serve too” horsechit...you all know what I meant, and if you didnt, you belong on DU!)
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