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American Character Is at Stake
wsj ^ | 8/3/2012 | NICHOLAS EBERSTADT

Posted on 09/03/2012 8:53:12 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender

The American republic has endured for well over two centuries, but over the past 50 years, the apparatus of American governance has undergone a radical transformation. In some basic respects—its scale, its preoccupations, even many of its purposes—the U.S. government today would be scarcely recognizable to Franklin D. Roosevelt, much less to Abraham Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson.

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I'm dating myself, but I remember when the homeless used to be called hobos and bums. But generally speaking, even hobos and bums had the dignity back then not to go on welfare.
1 posted on 09/03/2012 8:53:13 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender
I'm dating myself, but (carrying the theme)

I remember when one was proud to be an American and the thought of apologizing for it any where in the world was tantamount to treason

2 posted on 09/03/2012 8:57:26 PM PDT by llevrok (2012 : This is a civil war, not an election)
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To: vbmoneyspender

American character is already gone, thanks to Obamass, now we have to get it back.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 8:57:41 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

I’d say November 2008 proved that American character is long gone.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 9:01:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

My grandfather was a hobo (back in the 1920s or so) in his youth he often regaled me with stories of his many adventures. He was also very proud of the fact that in his many years “on the rails”, he never asked for government assistance. Later in life he had to accept government assistance and I believe that contributed to his demise.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 9:09:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

It started more than 50 years ago. It started the first time FDR was elected.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 9:10:09 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: llevrok

Alan Bloom’s book, “The Closing of the American Mind” also explains it -—basically-—the schools/media are brainwashing and corrupting the next generation and intentionally keeping them ignorant of Classical knowledge (logic).

We need to get our children and grandchildren out of their clutches. This does a nice job explaining what is going on...... I’ve researched curricula and Marxism-—Children fundamentally reject all parent’s values. They are forced using conditioning— BF Skinner methodology —into “group think” which is only ONE way to “think”.

http://truebluenz.com/2011/11/11/cultural-marxism-for-beginners-it-aint-too-hard/


7 posted on 09/03/2012 9:14:55 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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The Closing of the American Mind

I look upon these times as the New Puritanism.

Speak wrongly or think wrongly of some one or something, and you are ostracized and, perhaps, a scarlett letter etched upon your forehead.

The move to a monoculture is frightening.

8 posted on 09/03/2012 9:23:22 PM PDT by llevrok (2012 : This is a civil war, not an election)
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“...Children fundamentally reject all parent’s values. They are forced using conditioning— BF Skinner methodology —into “group think...”

And the group think is strongest among the professors at any college of education in almost any university. Thomas Sowell’s thinking is banned as is his book “Inside American Education.”

9 posted on 09/03/2012 9:28:51 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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Group think is also very strong in Hollywood.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 9:29:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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Group think is also very strong in Hollywood.

That's because a lot of those folks don't have enough brains to have an original thought. They stick out because of their celebrity. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of thousands of folks all over this country with the same problem.

11 posted on 09/03/2012 10:22:48 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: vbmoneyspender

I can date myself back to the middle 20s. I remember the depression when as you note there were hobos and bums. I also remember my mother working at a $2 to $4 piecework job. I remember losing the home my deceased father had built to the fat cat bankers. I remember the not to prosperous months before WWII. I remember a united USA population going to war where young men were being trained with anything resembling a rifle and beat up trucks being used for tank training. I remember the spirit of’76 that drove and lifted the people. I remember myself as a new 18 year old being drafted before my only brother was killed on Okinawa. I remember the USA coming out of WWII a big winner with some big loses but with a fervent desire and intention to make a better Nation for our children and future generations. All this I remember but today my memories are being drowned by the new generations that for a great part have been taught that the USA is not nor was it ever an exceptional self built Nation. Instead the USA must ‘change’ to accommodate anyone from anywhere for any purpose. I still want the USA to be for my sons and grandchildren what I believed the USA was and intended to be. Is this too much to expect at this time?


12 posted on 09/04/2012 1:15:20 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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Thanks for sharing your memories! The losses and hardships suffered by so many during that time are getting “lost” as you say...and so is the patriotism and sense of purpose that banded the Country together at that time. I was hopeful that it would return after 9-11...and the American people spontaneously exhibited such a fervor. It was TAMPED DOWN by the politicians if you will remember.

FYI, I have a vast collection of WWII Homefront items...I am surrounded by it, so to speak. Dozens of Patriotic War Bond & rationing posters are the artwork on my walls; children’s toys (guns and nurse kits, tiny uniforms) are on display; patriotic jewelry...I have hundreds of pieces.

I mention this to you as you will be happy to know that my husband and one of his friends go to schools in the area, in full WWII dress, with tents, personal gear, etc...and talk to the kids about the War. They always take along many of my home front items as well...the kids are FASCINATED, and cannot ask enough questions. They particularly love the posters dealing with schoolchildren participating in scrap drives (the girls anyway...the boys are MUCH more focused on the “Army men”...LOL!)

So, some of us are trying!


13 posted on 09/04/2012 1:38:28 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: vbmoneyspender; dfwgator; savagesusie

An idea that was over a hundred years old at the time made its first appearance in a political document, our Declaration, “that to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, . . . “ That is the reason men form governments and no other.

A nation dedicated to securing our unalienable rights has become an instrument of plunder. No republic can long survive this. It is a near mathematical certainty that we will stop dancing around the edges of despotism and soon dive headlong into it.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 3:15:39 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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That is the Enlightenment part which did form our Nation, but you are reducing it to a simplistic meaning. There is rich Natural Law Theory behind it—rich philosophy which goes back to “Antigone” by Sophocles, and the idea of a Higher Power than man-made up laws.

We are a government under Rule of Law which assumes ALWAYS a higher law than man’s. This was brought up by MLK, jr. and in the Nuremberg Trials etc.

We have UNJUST laws-—and that is the only reason that our government is allowed to plunder. If we were under Rule of Law (Just Laws ALWAYS), then those plunderers would be in prison and removed from office.

We need to get back to a Constitutional Republic-—exactly as it was designed and dump all the corrupt laws which have been posited. Our government is very corrupt and especially the legal system and judges. They need to be impeached when they write laws which conflict with the Supreme Law of the Land.


15 posted on 09/05/2012 7:17:39 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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