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Platform vote on same-sex marriage at Democratic convention called historic
Austin American Statesman ^ | September 3, 2012 | Chuck Lindell

Posted on 09/04/2012 2:08:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — For gay and lesbian delegates to the Democratic National Convention, this week's gathering offers a momentous opportunity to vote, for the first time in history, on a party platform that calls for legalizing same-sex marriage.

"This is historic," said Rich Bailey of Austin, a gay man who has been politically active for 26 years. "It's my first national convention, and I'm really excited I get to go to this one, especially one where we have an opportunity to vote on this plank."

Delegates Sue Spell and Carol Cappa from Fort Worth, together for 11 years, have discussed getting married in another state. For them, the platform vote is more personal than is typical for a statement of party principles and values.

"It's an opportunity to validate our relationship and to be able to marry the person I love," Cappa said.

Portrayed as politically risky when President Barack Obama shifted position in May to embrace the concept, same-sex marriage has become increasingly accepted in the United States, with opinion polls showing about half of Americans in support. But with the same polls finding an almost equal number of opponents, same-sex marriage remains a divisive issue heading toward a November election considered by both sides to be close.

Rick Cofer of Austin, a member of the Democratic National Committee who is straight, sees no risk in the gay-marriage plank.

"Doing the right thing when the right thing is obvious is never risky," he said. "My father was born in a segregated country, and Lyndon Johnson did something about it. I was born in a country where gay Americans did not have equality, and this president will do something about it."

Bailey said growing acceptance of same-sex marriage — favored by only 27 percent in a 1996 Gallup Poll, compared with 50 percent in May — limits the political risk as the Democratic convention gets under way late this afternoon.

"I think it's an accurate reading of where this country is going to be," he said. "And it just makes sense for us to be on the right side of history."

Still, polls indicate Obama took a political hit after announcing that his position on same-sex marriage had evolved. Obama's shift left only 13 percent of Americans more likely to vote for him, compared with 26 percent less likely to support the president — including 10 percent of Democrats, according to a Gallup Poll in May.

At its state convention in June, the Texas Democratic Party became the first in a Southern state to approve a platform backing same-sex marriage, said Eli Olivarez, president of Texas Stonewall Democratic Caucus. "Texas may be conservative for Republicans, but for Democrats, it's inclusive," he said.

Three months later, he said, 534 of the nearly 6,000 delegates at the national convention are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, about double the number from 2008.

At the Republican National Convention last week in Florida, delegates approved a platform reaffirming support for a U.S. constitutional amendment that defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman and supporting similar efforts at the state level.

One of those states was North Carolina, where voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in May, four months before the Democratic convention's arrival.

"It is kind of discouraging that there are still states, communities and political parties saying we don't think everyone in this country is entitled to equal protection," Bailey said. "I'm hoping that having this in Charlotte, they will be able to see what having full equality looks like."

The proposed Democratic platform also calls for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, which allows states to not recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.

The marriage planks were approved with little discussion, and no dissent, when the DNC Platform Committee met last month in Detroit, said Ally O'Connell of Austin, a national delegate and platform committee member.

"It's almost silly that we have to fight for marriage equality. It seems we should be moving past this now," said O'Connell, who is straight. "Since there are so many people fighting against it, it is very important to me to be fighting for it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; 2012dncplatform; bhohomosexualagenda; demagogicparty; gay; gltb; homosexualagenda; marriage; samesexmarriage; sexualorientation

1 posted on 09/04/2012 2:08:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Still, polls indicate Obama took a political hit after announcing that his position on same-sex marriage had evolved. Obama's shift left only 13 percent of Americans more likely to vote for him, compared with 26 percent less likely to support the president — including 10 percent of Democrats, according to a Gallup Poll in May.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 2:15:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obama versus Jesus: Black Christians Must Decide
3 posted on 09/04/2012 2:18:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If they wish to make a huge deal of this, it’s going to destroy any chance of POTUS or the Senate.

Have at it.

They’re going to energize the Republican base like never before.


4 posted on 09/04/2012 2:24:54 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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5 posted on 09/04/2012 2:28:59 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep. A historic blunder.


6 posted on 09/04/2012 2:30:10 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How depressing! This country’s going down the tubes. Consenting adults can do what they want in private, but why do we have to destroy the foundational institution of marriage, on the basis of which healthy families are built? I want to live in a different century, when moral decency and faith were at least given lip service by the majority.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 2:40:03 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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“I want to live in a different century, when moral decency and faith were at least given lip service by the majority.”

Can you imagine how this shows up in public school curriculums? Also, do you know how much worse that will be if it is mandated nationally?


8 posted on 09/04/2012 3:19:43 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Platform vote on same-sex marriage at Democratic convention called historic

Ah yes, “historic”... in the same way it’s “unprecedented, perverted, demented, depraved, disgusting”...


9 posted on 09/04/2012 4:14:26 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well you can’t blame the Democrats. Republicans DID nominate Mitt freaken Romney, if they didn’t step up their game, the Democrats would have lost the gay vote.

Mitt Romney was for gay marriage 8 years before it went in dem platform.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 4:19:38 AM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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Excerpts Republican Party 2012 Platform - PDF

The First Amendment: The Foresight of Our Founders to Protect Religious Freedom

The first provision of the First Amendment concerns freedom of religion. That guarantee reflected Thomas Jefferson’s Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which declared that no one should “suffer on account of his religious opinion or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion….” That assurance has never been more needed than it is today, as liberal elites try to drive religious beliefs—and religious believers—out of the public square. The Founders of the American Republic universally agree that democracy presupposes a moral people and that, in the words of George Washington’s Farewell Address, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”

The most offensive instance of this war on religion has been the current Administration’s attempt to compel faith-related institutions, as well as believing individuals, to contravene their deeply held religious, moral, or ethical beliefs regarding health services, traditional marriage, or abortion. This forcible secularization of religious and religiously affiliated organizations, including faith-based hospitals and colleges, has been in tandem with the current Administration’s audacity in declaring which faithrelated activities are, or are not, protected by the First Amendment—an unprecedented aggression repudiated by a unanimous Supreme Court in its Hosanna-Tabor v. EEOC decision.

We pledge to respect the religious beliefs and rights of conscience of all Americans and to safeguard the independence of their institutions from government. We support the public display of the Ten Commandments as a reflection of our history and of our country’s Judeo-Christian heritage, and we affirm the right of students to engage in prayer at public school events in public schools and to have equal access to public schools and other public facilities to accommodate religious freedom in the public square. We assert every citizen’s right to apply religious values to public policy and the right of faith-based organizations to participate fully in public programs without renouncing their beliefs, removing religious symbols, or submitting to government-imposed hiring practices. We oppose government discrimination against businesses due to religious views. We support the First Amendment right of freedom of association of the Boy Scouts of America and other service organizations whose values are under assault and condemn the State blacklisting of religious groups which decline to arrange adoptions by same-sex couples. We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.

..The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life

Faithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the nonconsensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Republican leadership has led the effort to prohibit the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion and permitted States to extend health care coverage to children before birth. We urge Congress to strengthen the Born Alive Infant Protection Act by enacting appropriate civil and criminal penalties on healthcare providers who fail to provide treatment and care to an infant who survives an abortion, including early induction delivery where the death of the infant is intended. We call for legislation to ban sex-selective abortions – gender discrimination in its most lethal form—and to protect from abortion unborn children who are capable of feeling pain; and we applaud U.S. House Republicans for leading the effort to protect the lives of pain-capable unborn children in the District of Columbia. We call for a ban on the use of body parts from aborted fetuses for research. We support and applaud adult stem cell research to develop lifesaving therapies, and we oppose the killing of embryos for their stem cells. We oppose federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

We also salute the many States that have passed laws for informed consent, mandatory waiting periods prior to an abortion, and health-protective clinic regulation. We seek to protect young girls from exploitation through a parental consent requirement; and we affirm our moral obligation to assist, rather than penalize, women challenged by an unplanned pregnancy. We salute those who provide them with counseling and adoption alternatives and empower them to choose life, and we take comfort in the tremendous increase in adoptions that has followed Republican legislative initiatives. [end excerpts Republican Party 2012 Platform]

11 posted on 09/04/2012 4:22:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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The party platform is so much toilet paper without a President willing to put it into practice. The only mechanism for turning the platform into policy is electing politicians who will adhere to it, and a President who will use bully pulpit to push it in the legislature. Democrats have this, we have Romney, the platform is therefore meaningless.


12 posted on 09/04/2012 4:27:36 AM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That should turn a few Democrats into Republicans.


13 posted on 09/04/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: BurningOak

I guess you just breezed by post #2.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 4:32:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Venturer

I would expect so.


15 posted on 09/04/2012 4:32:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Let's just vote morality out period...We can kill babies, propogate gays and AIDS.....

Hey.....let's extend it....you can kill babies up until the age of 3 if they are too inconvenient. Just file an affidavit with the devil.

And gays....If you are bi...you can have a straight and crooked partner....you want to be happy after all....and surely you have that right.

16 posted on 09/04/2012 4:48:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Gays for the Dem Party are similar to Ron Paul supporters in that they far exceed their actual percentage of the population when counting delegates.

The hot button issues and passion to support a cause drives people, but for those who are not moved their inaction creates this opportunity for a political voice - it is the same as when rich put their money behind candidates....

This is also what makes the TEA Party supporters effective, by doing something!!!

17 posted on 09/04/2012 5:01:08 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: 98ZJ USMC

The saddest thing ever is that almost 1/2 the voters will still be on their side. Disgusting!


18 posted on 09/04/2012 5:34:46 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Psalms 12:8


19 posted on 09/04/2012 5:51:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Populations that vote result from heterosexual unions.

Gays produce no populations.

Ergo, gay populations will never win elections.

20 posted on 09/04/2012 5:59:33 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (gays are losers? who knew?! - where?? who knew?)
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Yeh ‘historic’ blah blah. As if everything historic was so good. Sodom and Gomorrah were historic too. All this gay perverted carpola is ultimately headed for a fiery end


21 posted on 09/04/2012 6:02:42 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Obummer will get his clock cleaned in NC. He loses this state big time. That he came out one day after voters ruled against queer marriage and said he was all for it, was a slap in the face to the voters of the state. This incompetent, pandering dunce will lose any state that he is either tied in or barely leading. Everyone knows what they get with this worthless piece of cow manure. And that is absolutely nothing but four more years of socialist politicians and this muslim trying his damnest to destroy Christianity. He makes Jimmy Carter look like Thomas Jefferson. No fan of Romney here, but he is 1000 times an improvement over this paper-hanging, teleprompter-reading dunce.


22 posted on 09/04/2012 6:40:34 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Appeasing the coprophiliacs that seem to be leading the rat party is just another day for this collection of perverts.


23 posted on 09/04/2012 7:45:56 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

“Consenting adults can do what they want in private”

No, they can’t, not when it threatens the public health. Male homos are the #1 vector for the spread of infectious diseases. This cannot go unchecked.


24 posted on 09/04/2012 7:50:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rick Cofer of Austin, a member of the Democratic National Committee who is straight, sees no risk in the gay-marriage plank.

Jusst daymuuuuuuuuuuuuum. I knew that guy for years in the military and knew there was something wrong with him.

25 posted on 09/04/2012 8:04:31 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only if it is a secret ballot will it fail to pass. Opposing it publicly would expose the antis to attack, physical and othwerwise.


26 posted on 09/04/2012 8:54:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Mitt Romney was for gay marriage 8 years before it went in dem platform.

But, so far as I can see, he has not tried to force it on anyone else. RATs can't live with differences of opinion; I can, so long as they are not forced down my throat.

27 posted on 09/04/2012 9:00:46 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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