Hill Poll: Voters say second term undeserved, country is worse off

The Hill ^ | 09/04/12 | Sheldon Alberts

[Palmetto Patriot]

A majority of voters believe the country is worse off today than it was four years ago and that President Obama does not deserve reelection, according to a new poll for The Hill.

Fifty-two percent of likely voters say the nation is in “worse condition” now than in September 2008, while 54 percent say Obama does not deserve reelection based solely on his job performance.

Only 31 percent of voters believe the nation is in “better condition,” while 15 percent say it is “about the same,” the poll found. Just 40 percent of voters said Obama deserves reelection.

The results highlight the depth of voter dissatisfaction confronting Obama as he makes his case for a second term at this week’s Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.

[StAntKnee]

Me too. Really, 40 percent? On what planet?

[MNJohnnie]

I wonder if this is a set up. I think they are going to come out with a poll next week showing Obama massively ahead. I think the media is setting things up to show O as “the come back kid”.

[MNJohnnie]

You see this every election season. Moveon.org and other far left groups tell their supporters to tell pollsters they are Republicans voting for the Democrat. They think it give them a glamor of credibility with independent voters.

[lstanle]

Did they go through all this and not ask those polled who they were going to vote for?

[MNJohnnie]

I would be interested to hear your take on this poll.

[lstanle]

Taking these results at face value, I see no way Obama could win. I would like to know how these people polled would answer the question, who are you voting for?

[Palmetto Patriot]

A quick look at the crosstabs gives a good explanation of the results - this is one of the few national polls that actually gets the partisan split right, or at least close.

This poll was taken by Pulse Opinion Research, a Rasmussen operation. I have to believe they used the same partisan breakdown as Ras.

[Palmetto Patriot]

I think they are going to come out with a poll next week showing Obama massively ahead.

It's easy enough to check the D/R/I breakdown.

The tipoff would be if they used a different pollster (PPP, for example) to proclaim the resurrection of the Won.

[catnipman]

“Ever been polled and were about to give very conservative answers, and the pollster asked your party, and maybe for just a second you were tempted to say “Democrat”?”

Actually, I have friends that do exactly that all the time just to mess with the polls. Just another tiny way of “Going Galt”.

[TornadoAlley3]

[catnipman]

Interestingly enough, this is a poll of likely voters, unlike the usual registered voters polls, plus as has been pointed out, the demographic is probably close to correct, so this is probably a pretty credible poll. Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall when Axelrod and company are discussing the results of their own internal polls, which I assume they’re truly trying to get accurate results from?

[fwdude]

Why do most lib women look like bull dykes?

[Buckeye McFrog]

That would appear to leave his only move to be convincing a majority that Mitt Romney is a frightening, insufferable monster who could not be tolerated in office for even a single day.

Well, good luck with that one.

[LS]

1) Registered voters so the result is even worse for Zero (he's probably under 40), and

2) No way an incumbent wins with this number.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Who are these 11% and what have they been drinking?

They are the ones you hear every hour calling into Conservative talk shows and starting off their call with "I am a lifelong Republican, BUT..."

[TXnMA]

Because those who turn out to protest are...?

[ScottinVA]

Yet most polling data shows Obama with a slight lead. We’ll see.

[arrogantsob]

The only polls showing The Disaster with a lead are those which are deliberately cooked by oversampling Democrats or using Registered Voters or Adults. Most of those using Likely Voters or an accurate sample show The Disaster losing.

[comebacknewt]

In light of some of their comments, I think a couple of the ABR folks on here could be part of the 11%.

[Ramcat]

“Eighty percent of Republicans believe Obama doesn’t deserve reelection, and only 11 percent think he does.” Who are these 11% and what have they been drinking?

Seems a good number of the 11% post here.