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Obama’s Popularity Dips Underwater; For Romney, a Faint Favorability Bounce
ABC News ^ | Sept. 4, 2012 | Gary Langer

Posted on 09/04/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by Jess Kitting

Barack Obama approaches his nomination for a second term with the lowest pre-convention personal popularity of an incumbent president in ABC News/Washington Post polls since the 1980s. He’s also at his lowest of the year among registered voters, with trouble among women.

Just 47 percent of registered voters in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll see Obama favorably overall, down 7 percentage points from his recent peak in April, while 49 percent rate him unfavorably. He’s numerically underwater in this group for the first time since February.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bhojobapproval; dip; obama
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
And yet Link: Intrade says BO has 58% probability of reelection

I wish that everyone would stop worrying about Intrade. It means nothing. It's the equivalent of a bar bet, albeit nearly a million of them. Here's an explanation I posted last night:

The all-time highest daily volume for Obama winning the election was 21,889 shares on 9/1. That same day, the volume for Romney winning the election was 32,822 shares (also an all-time high).

A winning share pays $10. So, you can consider the price of the share to be approximately 1/10th of the probability of winning. At the close on 9/1, Obama was $5.84/share, and Romney was $4.21/share.

That means that 1 day's volume (on 9/1) for Obama was 21,889 * $5.84 = $127,831. And the same day, the volume for Romney was 32,822 * $4.21 = $138,180. That's a lot of money to you and me, but that's chickenfeed to someone that wants to manipulate it for political purposes.

But, only a fraction of that would be needed. First, that daily volume is 4-5 times the average daily volume up until the last few days. Second, only a small number of shares are available for immediate trade right now, to satisfy outstanding orders. If you were to buy or sell all those, the price would move very quickly.

Right now, I could boost Obama's share price from $5.82 to above $5.98, buying 3,017 shares for $17,794. That would satisfy all the outstanding orders currently listed. Conversely, I could depress Romney's share price from $4.16 to below $3.88, selling 9,048 shares for $37,290. I wouldn't even have to own those shares -- I could effectively create new shares immediately.

Moving either one all the way to 0 or 100 could get a bit expensive. There are a total of 410,183 open shares for Obama and 402,797 open shares for Romney. But, even at the maximum price of $10/share, that's still only a bit over $8,000,000 for both, combined. That's the total "capitalization" of the market, currently -- although more shares can quickly be added by people selling shares they don't already own.

So, do you see how easy it is to manipulate the Intrade prices? It's like a penny stock -- relatively moderate amounts of money can move the price a great deal.

62 posted on 09/05/2012 4:50:39 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: thecodont

This past weekend we travelled from Cleveland to Cincinnati and back. We saw 1...that’s ONE...Obama 2012 sticker.

We got plenty of thumbs up for our Romney sticker.

I work for the Federal Government and park in a designated employee only garage.

There are ZERO Obama stickers.

Very telling. In 2008, you couldn’t count them all.


63 posted on 09/05/2012 5:00:16 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: libertarian27

ping


64 posted on 09/05/2012 5:36:55 AM PDT by Ulysse (O)
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To: mom4melody
There are ZERO Obama stickers. [...] In 2008, you couldn’t count them all.

It's clear the enthusiasm isn't there. The question is how many previous Obama voters will vote for Romney, or just not vote at all. It depends on how successful the Kneepad Media is in repeating the Carter strategy: "My term was a disaster, but Reagan would be worse".

I think the enthusiasm gap will result in lower turnout on the left side of the political spectrum. But, I don't know if Romney will inspire higher turnout on the other side.

65 posted on 09/05/2012 5:39:40 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
"What has been bothering me about the polls is that the pollsters have been using Adults and Registered Voters WAAAY too late in the polling cycle. "

Of course they have. I've seen this too. some of the national post convention polls have 700 adults and 250 registered voters. What the hell is that? This is the latest I've ever seen this going on. Also, I think Gallup is in the tank now that they've been threatened by DOJ for some trivial matter.
66 posted on 09/05/2012 5:43:04 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: Jess Kitting

The slope of the truth curve is beginning to rise slightly. It will be vertical by november


67 posted on 09/05/2012 5:46:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: AdamBomb
Also, I think Gallup is in the tank now that they've been threatened by DOJ for some trivial matter.

Gallup has always been in the tank for the Democrat's latest candidate du jour. They apparently thought they could they could get a return on their investment.

I've worked on government contracts. Intentional inflation of a bid for services is considered a serious infraction.

68 posted on 09/05/2012 6:00:58 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Jess Kitting

A convention dip is very possible considering who is running, their patform, and their track record.


69 posted on 09/05/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Jess Kitting

Again, this poll is in registered voters. If they used likely voters, it would be even worse for Hussein and the jackasses.


70 posted on 09/05/2012 6:10:18 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
One way to lose the women’s vote is to think it is all about the ovaries and not about the high gas prices, grocery prices, lack of jobs, lack of hopes and dreams coming to fruition, and hearing about foreclosures left and right. I can guarantee you many women are scared and feel it in their bones there is not enough time for hopey changy incomplete forward b.s. after 4 years of this snake oil salesman.

You got it. When the economy sucks, the women who used to care about "abortion rights" now care more about putting food on the table and paying the rent/mortgage. That translates into voting Republican.

71 posted on 09/05/2012 6:13:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: newnhdad
This smells like a set-up.

Oh you know it..Next week its going to be the most amazing numbers in polling history as the Won achieves 101% approval rating after a stellar convention.

72 posted on 09/05/2012 6:26:27 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: RummyChick
Do any of the recent Presidents have a home worth 35 million???

They are delusional. Where does they think he's going to get the money to continue the upkeep on that lavish life? His books? Investments? Speaking? Lord knows her fat a$$ is never going to work again.

73 posted on 09/05/2012 6:26:43 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Seriously. The press will bump him down, just to build him up and show The Big Mo.

74 posted on 09/05/2012 6:37:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Jess Kitting
The Hill Poll: only 40% think Obama deserves re-election
75 posted on 09/05/2012 7:10:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: RummyChick
Obama’s Presidential library is going to be filled with what??????????????????

76 posted on 09/05/2012 7:12:23 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: maine-iac7
As much as it's a sad commentary on today's voting public, I've held the same opinion. It's crazy to think that there are some people who prior to now couldn't pick Romney out of a line-up.

Once people, particularly women, start paying attention to the election in the final month or two, they'll see that instead of the evil & nasty person the Dems try to portray him as, he's a tall, handsome man with a youthful appearance who looks Presidential.

I don't care what rationale the reality-show-watching segment of the population uses to vote for Romney over Obama, as long as they do. If appearance helps, then that works for me!

77 posted on 09/05/2012 7:26:57 AM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
They mean since Carter.

Yeah, I like how they said that. Couldn't just say 'Since 1980.' Nope, 'Since the 1980s.' Let's see. There were two presidents that were incumbents in the 1980s. One lost miserably while the other won every state except his opponent's home. Hmmm, I wonder which one they were talking about.

78 posted on 09/05/2012 7:36:58 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Government's solution to everything: Less freedom.)
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To: RummyChick
Obama’s Presidential library is going to be filled with what?????????????????? I can’t wait to see what a joke it is.

Whatever he fills it with, you can bet your sweet a$$ it won't be empty chairs!

79 posted on 09/05/2012 7:47:09 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: max americana

I can well believe it; the whole country’s going to h*ll - and in a hurry, too.


80 posted on 09/05/2012 8:15:35 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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