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Does Paul Ryan Want to Take Medicare Away From Seniors?[It's OK, Grandma, he's not a meany}
CE.com ^ | September 5th, 2012 | Dr. Tracy C. Miller

Posted on 09/05/2012 8:07:25 PM PDT by Salvation

Does Paul Ryan Want to Take Medicare Away From Seniors?

A year ago, opponents attacked Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), claiming that his plan to reform Medicare would kill grandma by taking away her benefits. Mitt Romney, who, of course, has chosen Ryan as his running mate, is proposing similar changes to Medicare. Does Ryan want to gut Medicare? To the contrary, Ryan’s intention is to save Medicare. The problem, however, is that Ryan’s proposal, although a step in the right direction, does not go far enough. More drastic measures need to be taken to save Medicare so that it provides a reasonable level of benefits for future generations of retirees.

Medicare will soon be the biggest contributor to an unsustainable level of federal government debt. Even progressive economists, such as Alan Blinder, who generally support an increased role for government in the economy, realize that Medicare spending is on an unsustainable path.

Congressman Ryan has raised hard questions about the future of Medicare. Medicare spending was 3.2 percent of gross domestic product in 2008 and the Congressional Budget Office projects it will rise to 9.5 percent by 2050. According to Michael Cannon and Chris Edwards of the Cato Institute, if Congress does not reform Medicare and other entitlement programs and continues to spend the same share on other federal government programs, federal spending will double from 21 percent of GDP in 2008 to 42 percent in 2050.

Although part of the reason for rising Medicare spending is the growing number of retirees, spending per person has been rising much faster than inflation. Because Medicare recipients are spending other peoples’ money, they have little incentive to limit their spending. Waste and fraud are serious problems as unscrupulous individuals try to get a share of the enormous amount of money being spent. Much Medicare spending is for treatments that are not cost effective, yielding too small a reduction in mortality or suffering to justify the amount being spent.

The Obama administration’s plan and Romney’s proposal, which is very similar to the proposal introduced by Congressman Ryan and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) in 2011, both recognize the need for holding down Medicare costs, but each takes a different approach. President Obama’s plan maintains traditional Medicare while seeking to use the power of the federal government to control prices and implement a variety of cost-control provisions aided by various positive and negative inducements. The Republican plan shifts costs from the government to beneficiaries, replacing traditional Medicare with vouchers whose value will grow more slowly than medical costs have been growing.

The president’s plan would take advantage of cost-effectiveness research and proposes ending coverage for expensive procedures that offer few health improvements. The problem is that this one-size-fits-all approach does not adequately account for the diverse needs and situations of patients. Instead of the federal government deciding what to cover and not cover, a plan involving vouchers and private insurance would allow individuals the freedom to choose the kind of coverage they want.

In the plan he announced in 2011, Paul Ryan proposed changes to Medicare that would not take effect for 10 years and would reduce benefits only for those who are now younger than 55. By putting off real cuts until 2023, the Ryan plan would still add trillions to the national debt over 10 years. For the sake of future retirees, more radical changes need to be made and the sooner the better.

Although Ryan’s proposal would not do enough to make Medicare sustainable, his candidacy may make Medicare and fiscal responsibility (generally) central issues in the 2012 presidential campaign, which is a good thing. The time has come for responsible debate about Medicare, Medicaid, and other entitlement programs. We cannot continue to ignore the looming fiscal nightmare any longer.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; medicare; prolife

Dr. Tracy C. Miller is an associate professor of economics at Grove City College and fellow for economic theory and policy with The Center for Vision & Values. He holds a Ph.D. from University of Chicago.

The Center for Vision and Values at Grove City College is a conservative think tank promoting truth and liberty through a vision of faith and freedom. 


1 posted on 09/05/2012 8:07:30 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

**In the plan he announced in 2011, Paul Ryan proposed changes to Medicare that would not take effect for 10 years and would reduce benefits only for those who are now younger than 55.**

Truthful ping!


2 posted on 09/05/2012 8:10:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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3 posted on 09/05/2012 8:12:32 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Why are we trying to save socialist Medicare?


4 posted on 09/05/2012 8:13:34 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: Salvation; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

Same old crap. Both sides are completely dishonest on Medicare.

Clinton just said that Obama extended Medicare by 8 years to 2023 to 2016 by cutting this funding and that Rs want to bankrupt it by giving that money back to it shortening the life again.

Trust fund lies lead to this nonsense.


5 posted on 09/05/2012 8:15:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Salvation

Why is Rep. Ryan being accused of planning to “kill” grandma when in truth, it is the Obama White House who has raided medicare to support Obamacare?


6 posted on 09/05/2012 8:16:14 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation
B T T T ! ! ! ©




7 posted on 09/05/2012 8:19:25 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: rudabaga

Agree. Medicare is generational theft. Time for it to go


8 posted on 09/05/2012 8:23:13 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: sickoflibs

I agree. Trust funds... It’s much like going snipe hunting. Tell the group a tall tale, and make fools out of them...


9 posted on 09/05/2012 8:23:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Biggirl

You get it! Thanks!


10 posted on 09/05/2012 8:25:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: onyx

Good one. Definitely a grown up who understands the economics of this problem.


11 posted on 09/05/2012 8:25:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”I agree. Trust funds... It’s much like going snipe hunting. Tell the group a tall tale, and make fools out of them..”

Your retirement money is safe D1. I saved it on the side as a trust fund and I counted it as part of my debt that I can still use in my future bankruptcy because I invested it in a new car 20 years ago which I wrecked 18 years ago. But it is still on the my books as safe debt.

12 posted on 09/05/2012 8:31:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: MadIsh32

It really is. I just don’t understand why our side keeps arguing to save it and then has the gall to scream about socialism. What better example is there?


13 posted on 09/05/2012 8:41:15 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: Salvation

According to slick willies rambling, incoherect, and nonsensical speech......Ryan has the same policy on medicare as Obunghole.


14 posted on 09/05/2012 9:24:14 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: rudabaga

“Our side” is filled with old statists who want to spend taxpayer money on things they like.

There are very very few people in America who actually believe in liberty and oppose generational theft


15 posted on 09/05/2012 9:26:34 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

No offense to older FReepers, but its been my experience in life that there’s no bigger a group of whiners, crybabies, and entitlement-minded complainers than senior citizens.

Frankly I’m livid that I get taxed to pay for them to get in their Cadillacs and drive off to Florida for three months, while they mpan about covering the donut hole.....

Ever see a movie called “Logan’s Run”?

</evil laugh>


16 posted on 09/05/2012 9:44:07 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: sickoflibs

Whew! For a while there I was concerned. ;^)


17 posted on 09/05/2012 10:19:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Salvation

I hope so. I’m almost 53 and I want out of this ponzi scheme. Same for Soc Sec.


18 posted on 09/05/2012 10:47:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Salvation

Are they still getting Medicare? I thought Obamacare put paid to that.


19 posted on 09/06/2012 2:14:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Is Ryan’s voucher the answer to Obama’s death panels? When your voucher money runs out, your time runs out. You pull your own switch instead of some bureaucrat, right?


20 posted on 09/06/2012 2:53:23 PM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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