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To: New Jersey Realist
Anyone with common sense (and no agenda) can plainly see that natural born means born of the soil (English law). The only time citizen parents is required is if their baby was born in a foreign land, the child took on the citizenship of the parent.

The English law which required perpetual Allegiance to the King? Is that the English law to which you are referring? This may come as a shock to you, but we threw off English subjecthood law through something called the freakin' "War of Independence!"

British Loyalists during the war remained British subjects after the war, despite having been born in the Colonies. The United States Government recognized their status as British Subjects, (As did the Brits) and did not force them to be Americans. Many of them moved to Canada.

As a matter of fact, the Brits recognized American seaman as British subjects (Through the action of that Partus Sequitur Patrem law of England) and pressed them into service as British Subjects. The United States Government objected to this activity profoundly through something called the freakin' "WAR OF 1812!"

When it was over, they recognized our claims on our citizens, and we didn't recognize theirs.

54 posted on 09/06/2012 2:23:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You obviously never studied (or did well) in History. The founders and framers of this country LOVED their heritage; they did not appreciate the lack of REPRESENTATION! Get a clue!

Every child I know rebels in some way against their parents. In your mind I guess that means they HATE their parents and disregard the values they were taught? They would adopt French law instead? Are you freakin serious?

Why would anyone remain loyal to a country who treated them like crap?

Most of the founders were born or had roots in England.

Thomas Jefferson’s mother was English.

Can I be more clear?


58 posted on 09/06/2012 2:39:37 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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