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Paul Ryan Says Feds Shouldn’t Interfere With Legalized Medical Pot
KCBS ^ | September 7, 2012

Posted on 09/07/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by Ken H

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS/AP) – Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan tells a Colorado television station that the federal government shouldn’t interfere with states that have legalized medical marijuana.

Ryan told KRDO-TV in Colorado Springs that he personally doesn’t approve of medical marijuana laws. But he said that states should have the right to choose whether to legalize the drug for medical purposes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commerceclause; medicalmarijuana; statesrights; tenthamendment
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To: dalereed
As usual I agree with you but we will be thrown into a marginalized state, even here on FR.

The rationalization, degradation and risk to our young seems to be driven by folks with some kind of demonic possession type glee IMO!!!

The temptation of wildly challenging of any and all traditional taboos is reaching a crushendo in our beloved country. Sad day in the morning!!!

81 posted on 09/07/2012 8:34:29 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Government it'self is the REAL "Free Rider!" Obamacare will create burdensome "Free Riding!!!")
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To: Blue Ink
Better stay out of Colorado. Rasmussen June 09, 2012:

61% in Colorado Favor Legalizing, Regulating Marijuana (27% against)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijuana

82 posted on 09/07/2012 8:34:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: GeronL

I know a few progressives who loathe Ryan who will have to begrudgingly agree with him on this issue. That’s a good thing IMO.


83 posted on 09/07/2012 8:38:00 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than professors, politicians and preachers.)
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To: SierraWasp
You must think Clarence Thomas is a lieutenant to Old Scratch himself...

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

Justice Thomas, dissenting in Gonzales v Raich.

84 posted on 09/07/2012 8:41:51 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: GeronL

That’s a characteristic of Leftism, not Libertarianism. It’s important you remember that.


85 posted on 09/07/2012 8:42:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I agree but it needs to be sold in a pharmacy rather than some storefront that looks like a Haight-Ashbury head shop.

With all due respect, that is exactly what I don't want. I don't want the government in charge of the creation and distribution. In no time the gig will be rigged for the benefit of only a few large manufacturers/distributors ala the three tiered system for beer (watch the documentary "Beer Wars" by a former Sam Adams VP) that locks out smaller breweries from getting much, if any, cooler space in stores.

Whether people are for or against pot the fact is it is a plant that a personal user could grow for their own supply and distribute the rest, the total being (personal/sell) affixed to a yield limit. Create tax stamps that need to be paid for in advance by the grower and if anyone is caught with a standardized "baggie" that doesn't have said stamp affixed then a HUGE fine is imposed. The key is the tax duty is on the user. If you have a tax stamp then you are in the clear. If you don't then you've got a problem. In the end the government gets their bread, the smoker gets a huge marketplace to choose from and the power of pot cartels go out the window (and a good majority of the corresponding crime.)

Sure the cartels would shake down some larger sellers but anyone that has their own small circle of pot growing friends will have a self-perpetuating supply and would be more than happy to deal with friends vs. fringe criminal elements and thus would actually abide by the tax stamp requirement. There would still need to be law enforcement but it would be aimed primarily at the cartel levels. Government income, less crime, better quality.

86 posted on 09/07/2012 8:42:45 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Calvin Coolidge - "Patriotism is looking out for yourself by looking out for your Country.")
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To: Ken H

^facepalm*


87 posted on 09/07/2012 8:44:39 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Kansas58

Not all babies whose mother took thalidamide were affected. My cousin took it before both her children were born and they were fine.


88 posted on 09/07/2012 8:49:54 PM PDT by jch10 (America needs some R and R!)
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To: tumblindice

Ryan’s position is his affirmation of Justice Clarence Thomas’ dissent in ‘US vs Raich’. It merely allows states to act as a test laboratory for such things, set apart from the Commerce Clause. Anyone screaming about medical marijuana clinics should be equally against states like Idaho declaring that in-state manufactured firearms are exempt from Federal taxation or prohibition. This all came out of ‘DC vs Heller’.

Recently, Raich took hits in the US Supreme Court contrasting to how SCOTUS ruled in previous years in remanding ‘US vs Stewart’ back down to the 9th Circuit Court in light of Raich, for instance. The whole thing needs to be revisited because much of what the case law against medical marijuana and private ownership of machine guns were founded upon would likely lose in front of this high court should they be argued again soon.

Conservatives just can’t pick and choose from a smorgasbord of Constitutional values and stay consistent, such as calling on limited government that only has the bare minimum prescribed powers, yet is powerful enough to send swarms of agents against cultivators of illicit shrubbery, even through the use of insidious airborne biological agents as one berserk poster in this thread wishes to do. How do sane people reconcile such nonsense?


89 posted on 09/07/2012 8:50:05 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: tumblindice

Has Drudge picked up on it yet?


90 posted on 09/07/2012 8:50:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Ken H

You beat me to it.


91 posted on 09/07/2012 8:51:23 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: jch10

Was she in England?
It was not available in the United States.


92 posted on 09/07/2012 8:53:11 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GeronL
Almost as bad!

You want to destroy the first gift of our Creator!

Gen1:29
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,

Abuse is bad, so is persecution. This substance needs to be taken back from the criminals. If taken out of the criminal element it is truly a blessing.

93 posted on 09/07/2012 8:53:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

lol, for a common weed that would grow in a parking lot if left unattended?

Legalize it, embrace it and lets make some good rope.


94 posted on 09/07/2012 8:54:58 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: rawcatslyentist

lol. You are ridiculous.

Cannabis today bears little resemblance in potency to that of just 40 years ago and you want to pretend it was around the same a million years ago?


95 posted on 09/07/2012 8:56:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ken H

Well, perhaps Venice, CA will go GOP this year. LOL


96 posted on 09/07/2012 8:58:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t see it, but saw this. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pot-delivery-20120907,0,6377677.story

Yeah, if Ryan can paint Obama & Co. as an Orwellian `boot stamping on an innocent pot plant—forever,’ hey, cool.
Uh whut?
I’m having a small scotch and hitting the rack.


97 posted on 09/07/2012 8:58:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: GeronL

The Democrat party just added a plank to their platform demanding tax payer funded abortion on demand up-to birth.

You are busy every day actively propagandize for the Democrat party. You are actively helping spread the pro Abortion agenda by your daily actions

So spare us the hysteric fraudulent “moral” posturing Dembot.


98 posted on 09/07/2012 9:00:31 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yo..SoFloFreeper!
Couldn’t agree more!! This isn’t about MM it’s ALL about states rights. Ryan has this exactly right. This is a state issue as are so many others!


99 posted on 09/07/2012 9:00:48 PM PDT by Cookies4ever
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To: Blue Ink

Ignorance is bliss eh? The reason why it gets so bad with drug dens is that it’s still illegal. Legalize it.

Legalize pot, outlaw ignorance.


100 posted on 09/07/2012 9:02:31 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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