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Flashback: Gallup Had Carter Up 4 Points Over Ronald Reagan in September 1980
Gateway Pundit ^ | 9-8-2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 09/08/2012 8:51:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing

September 8, 2012

Flashback: Gallup Had Carter Up 4 Points Over Ronald Reagan in September 1980

Jim Hoft

Gallup polling today put Obama ahead of Mitt Romney by 4 points after the godless DNC Convention.

Back in 1980 Gallup had Jimmy Carter up over Ronald Reagan by 4 points in September.

Ronald Reagan ended up winning by 9 points and taking 44 states.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

I suspect that the polls are not that far off. Unfortunately, we are not the same country we were in 1980, and it probably is not going back. L&L.


21 posted on 09/09/2012 2:03:37 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: apillar

Palin was up 5. McCain lost that and more.


22 posted on 09/09/2012 3:40:03 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: MachIV
I suspect that the polls are not that far off. Unfortunately, we are not the same country we were in 1980, and it probably is not going back. L&L.

Totally agree. There is now a much larger percentage of the population that votes for a living, rather than working for it.

23 posted on 09/09/2012 4:48:43 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider (Rap music: hieroglyphics with a beat.)
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To: smoothsailing
The polls from the past few days are very typical of a post convention “bounce”; Romney got one too. But neither candidate has ever gotten to that 50%+ plus threshold, which tells me that this is going to be a very close election. But in close elections the undecideds usually break for the challenger. So I'm cautiously optimistic that Obama will be defeated. But we shall see.
24 posted on 09/09/2012 5:43:36 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: smoothsailing

I think the race is essentially tied. I think it all comes down to turnout and the few persuadable undecideds. I think the majority of undecideds will go Repub, so if the Democrat turnout is lower in the battleground states, Obama should lose. All bets are off if Romney gets clobbered in the debates.


25 posted on 09/09/2012 5:50:13 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Slyfox

I woke up to the media bias when I went to the Rally for Life in Washington in April, 1990. It was one of the largest crowds to ever attend a rally in Washington. UPI reported 800,000 people in their first wire report. The next day, CNN said “60,000 attended”(!), and the rest of the media said 150-200,000(when they covered the event at all). It was a real eye opener.


26 posted on 09/09/2012 6:04:48 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: OrangeHoof

I think we make a pretty sad crowd if we’re going back to a bad Gallup poll in 1980 to make ourselves feel better.


27 posted on 09/09/2012 6:13:42 AM PDT by paul544
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
Chief... you also have to consider when you see these polls that anything reported by percentages can also be misleading...

Here's an example I used in another thread:

If 56 people vote for Obozo out of 100 people voting that's 56%

But

if 23 people vote for Obozo out of 50 people voting that's also 56%

This is why voter turnout for your side is so important. If you only look at the percentages then you wouldn't know 50 less people bothered to show up to vote for your guy.

Right now, Obozo is running ads in California....and several freepers have commented that if this is true than Obozo must be in real trouble.

I as well as others think its voter apathy...they just aren't going to get off their butts to vote.

However, I've also wondered if its the gay marriage evolution by Obozo that's turning them (Blacks and Hispanics in particular) off. After all, they where the ones who made sure the gay marriage prop didn't pass in California to all our astonishment.

28 posted on 09/09/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: radpolis
All I heard was that Reagan was going to start a nuclear war with the Soviet Union over and over again.

Nothing new there, the did the same thing with Goldwater.

29 posted on 09/09/2012 6:20:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: smoothsailing

And looking at the chart, had Carter up by 8 points in October.


30 posted on 09/09/2012 6:22:54 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Slyfox
I came home after witnessing first hand Ronald Reagan's speech. I stood not too far from Diane Sawyer while Our President was giving his acceptance speech. And, yet when I got home that evening and caught the evening news I could not believe how biased and negative the coverage was. That was my first awakening. By 1993, I was no longer subscribing to the newspaper

My political awareness of the bias of the media happened much the same way. I watched Oliver North's testimony to congress on Cspan (I think) and remember coming away thinking that he was a straight shooter and was absolutely being honest and straight forward about what he was saying. THEN later I watched the news and read the newspaper. Night and day. Knew right then I couldn't trust the media to tell me how to think.

31 posted on 09/09/2012 6:26:23 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Slyfox
I miss the unvarnished days where we could actually listen to the whole speak and nothing but the whole speech.

I also canceled all my newspaper and news magazine subscriptions right around 1993 too. Interesting?....

....and I'd started to listen to Rush in 1992.

Of course, then I watched us kick out the Democrats in the House and Senate in 1994 and laughed all night watching those same media genius's gape at what was happening.

I'm hoping for more of this in this election cycle but I'm pretty sure the Lamestream media are already composing a database full of all the excuses they're going to pump into the teleprompters for election night coverage.

Have you ever noticed that the only time the media actually is "physically working" these days is when they're busy making up excuses for Democratic failures?

32 posted on 09/09/2012 6:35:36 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: 3Fingas

Well the MSM is going to do everything within their power to make Romney look bad in the debates. I hope he is prepping w/ that in mind. Actually, I fully expect obama to be given the questions in advance so his answers will flow instead of that stumbling, bumbling act he typically displays when speaking off the cuff.


33 posted on 09/09/2012 7:08:42 AM PDT by Josa
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To: smoothsailing

Worth remembering. Thanks.


34 posted on 09/09/2012 8:49:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: smoothsailing

Worth remembering. Thanks.


35 posted on 09/09/2012 8:50:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jennychase

“Romney’s strategy is not promising, it is defensive. He is treating as normal election, he should exploit current poor economy and make every state in play.”

He doesn’t need every state, that would be a waste of resources.

what hasn’t gotten much play yet from the press or pundits, is the ground game or the GOTV campaign.

Romney will have a distinct cash advantage to apply towards a GOTV campaign, and in the end this is always the deciding factor in a close election ex: Bush 2004.

We have to have a little patients and let the Romney campaign unfold. They are not handicapped buy a shortfall of cash.


36 posted on 09/09/2012 9:46:03 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: smoothsailing

Yes but as usual, one key point is missed by these guys - the MSM blasted Carter night after night for the hostage crisis. Carter did not own the MSM the way 0 does...


37 posted on 09/09/2012 10:57:31 AM PDT by nwrep
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