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U.S. Department of Education: 79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading
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Posted on 09/10/2012 11:45:48 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: silverleaf

I’m mildly autistic as well, though mine was expressed in being extremely good at reading and mathematics, and really bad at anything requiring socialization.

If you DO end up picking out a school for special education, make sure that you know EXACTLY what’s going on, even if it means setting up a camera in the room. I love my parents, but they left me in a really bad situation for a long time, just because they weren’t paying any attention to what was going on.

I admit that I’m not a parent—so take what I say with a grain of salt—but speaking as someone who was in your son’s situation when I was that age, I do recommend making sure that he gets a chance to socialize with people outside just the family. When I got out of HS and into college, I excelled in academic matters, but I nearly got kicked out of my seminary work simply because I had such a hard time with socialization.

Prayers for you and your son too. I wish more parents paid attention to their children’s education like that.


41 posted on 09/10/2012 1:10:40 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: Sub-Driver
U.S. Department of Education: 79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading

And even worse....... 105% of Chicago 8th Graders Are Not Proficient in Mathematics

42 posted on 09/10/2012 1:12:02 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Vote for Paul Ryan 2012...... oh, and that other guy running on his ticket that's not Obama.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Here's where the 3 yr old and the next older one picked up all the letter sounds:

The oldest didn't have the full advantage of "Tad", but she's an avid reader (too avid sometimes) at age 7.

By 8th grade... sheesh.

43 posted on 09/10/2012 1:12:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: OB1kNOb
105% of Chicago 8th Graders Are Not Proficient in Mathematics

On the bright side, that same percentage will be able to vote Democrat.

44 posted on 09/10/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: New Jersey Realist
"I guess they want combat pay!"

Let's be fair. A friend of mine is a teacher and he tells story after story about 5th graders that'll make you want to cry.

A whole lot of these kids are essentially on their own; they're not properly fed, they're not properly dressed and they're seldom remotely clean.

I'm no fan of the NEA and in fact would lay a lion's share of the disaster right at their feet, but the day to day that the actual teachers deal w/ is no walk in the park--especially in big city schools.

45 posted on 09/10/2012 1:21:06 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: ALPAPilot
So 4 out of 5 8th grade students are not proficient in reading but 19 out of 20 Freepers who send their children to public school pretend that their schools are great. They aren't like all the others.

Public Skool parent here. I will be the first to state the school my child attend's isn't GREAT. I think it is what you make it. The parents aren't like all the others, I bet 19 out of 20 freeper parents actually CARE about their children's education. And...I bet 19 out of 20 freepers children actually could read BEFORE they even went to school. My youngest is a junior in H.S., he is taking some college credit courses. EVERY DAY I ask about his homework. I believe that even if we lived in Chicago, his grades would still be good.

Having said that, these good for nothing "Teachers" should all be fired, these numbers are disgraceful. CHICAGO TEACHERS SHOULD BE AHAMED! They call themselves teachers, what a joke.

46 posted on 09/10/2012 1:22:41 PM PDT by ConservativeChris (I feel like Marvin Boggs!)
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To: ConservativeChris

Should be ashamed not ahamed, sorry to the grammar police.


47 posted on 09/10/2012 1:24:18 PM PDT by ConservativeChris (I feel like Marvin Boggs!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Nothing. Both my daughters learned how to read in a total of ten hours of instruction at age 4.5. (15,minutes a day for a month.).

Did you use a program and if so what was it?

48 posted on 09/10/2012 1:33:55 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Sub-Driver

Some TV ad caught my ear over the weekend. I don’t know whether it was by NEA or some other union group, or Dems in general. But the gist of it was, that the way to fix education, is to pay for more education for the teachers (which will then result in them getting those fixed raises you get with each new credit hour toward the next degree).

IMHO it was insulting as to the implications. Pay more for the teachers to learn more so we can pay the teachers more. I did not see how that would result in more proficient students coming out of the schools.


49 posted on 09/10/2012 1:55:09 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: OB1kNOb

Or 5 out 4 students don’t understand fractions.........


50 posted on 09/10/2012 1:55:50 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver
Oh the poor children in Chicago.

It is time that people get really pissed off about the money we spend on our education system. If you are like me, you probably do not live in a liberal hell hole like Chicago. But do you realize that your tax dollars pay for schools in cities like Chicago? City schools typically receive significant portions of their budgets from state and federal tax dollars. We have no say in the union contracts or how the money will be wasted since we do not live in those school districts.

If Republicans had any guts they would cut cities off the state and federal tax gravy train. Then standby and watch them commit self-genocide. It is not our culture's problem. These city folks, by a majority, self identify as some hyphenated culture. That culture does not include education as a priority. Fortunately, their culture includes the liberal use of guns.

51 posted on 09/10/2012 2:14:37 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: Sub-Driver

So the Chicago teachers go on strike at a sensitive moment for Obama and he has no comment.
Then the MSM ‘helpfully’ releases a report the same day the strike is announced indicating that Chicago’s students are not well educated (I understand there are other driving factors and it’s not 100% teachers) which might appear to undermine the position of the strikers in the eyes of the voting public.
So the MSM helps tamp down the strike while Obama remains silent approaching the election. If it were Bush and bad for his campaign to have Chicago teachers striking, the MSM would be videotaping heart rending stories of hardship and woe - a parade of emotional educators demanding that children receive the education needed and a lament that Bush doesn’t want minorities to have an education. There would expose type reporting and ambush interviews. Reporters shouting at press conferences “Mr. President -send America’s children back to school...”


52 posted on 09/10/2012 2:20:59 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Oh and the MSM would be following Bush’s children to PRIVATE school, video taping the classrooms, grounds, meals served in the lunchroom and ethnic breakdown of the student population and contrasting it sharply with that found in Chicago and inviting viewers to draw their own conclusions as to why the president has no comment on the Chicago strike...


53 posted on 09/10/2012 2:24:48 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Sub-Driver

Arne Duncan’s Chicago “success” -— promoted by Obama to United States Secretary of Education.

December 16, 2008

(CNSNews.com) – In 2007, only 17 percent of eighth graders tested at or above grade level in reading in Chicago Public Schools – the school system administered by Arne Duncan since 2001.

President-elect Barack Obama on Tuesday tapped Duncan to become secretary of education in the upcoming administration.

Duncan, hailed by Obama as a reformer, said he would like to take the lessons he learned in Chicago with him when he moves to Washington.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/only-17-8th-graders-schools-overseen-obama-education-secretary-designee-can-read-grade


54 posted on 09/10/2012 2:44:45 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I was the editor of the college newspaper. The students writing for the paper--the ones who were PUBLIC school graduates, many of them studying journalism--would submit articles for the paper, and their articles needed a LOT of work! I would say that I could write better when I was in 8th grade than these college students could write.

Odd. I have a vaguely similar story. When I was at the University of Florida I had a course on Constitutional History. It was in a big lecture hall with at least 100 students, maybe more. That is where I met my friend Richard Glukstad since they sat us alphabetically. There was a "G" woman sitting between us but I don't remember her name although it was somewhere between Glukstad and Gladnick.

The course was in the late afternoon when I tend to get very sleepy. Almost every day in that class I fell fast asleep and sometimes the "G" woman would angrily shove me because my head often fell onto her shoulder. On top of that I snore loudly so everybody in the lecture hall was aware of my snoozing to their bemusement.

Well, on the day of a BIG essay exam, Richard asked me if I studied for the text and I truthfully replied "No." He really felt sorry for me since I was completely unprepared.

The next session the prof started handing back the tests with the scores in order of how well we did...with the best score handed back first followed by the rest in order to the last and worst result. Richard really sympathized for me since we were getting to the end and the prof still hadn't handed my test back so he figured I flunked. However, when the last paper was handed back, I STILL hadn't gotten mine.

At that point the prof said, "I want to put on the screen the most outstanding essay of them all."

Richard's (and the G-Girl's) jaw dropped when my essay appeared on the screen. Actually everybody in the lecture hall was in a state of shock when the "snoozer" got top score.

Later Richard asked how I could possibly have done so well without any studying. I just told him that history is my thing and I just knew that stuff which in this case was Big States vs Small States at the constitutional convention which I read about in the college library where I REALLY got most of my education by idly flipping through stacks of books.

Richard still talks about that incident. I sure remember him being completely flabbergasted at the time. G-Girl wasn't really impressed since it didn't make up for the times my sleeping head hit her shoulder.

p.s. What kind of food do they serve in Lutheran school cafeterias?

55 posted on 09/10/2012 4:25:27 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What is so hard about learning how to read?

It might be that most kids these days spend most of their time texting on their phones or in chat rooms on their computers and believe that the writing style used their is the proper usage of English.

i.e. "nuff bout dat"

56 posted on 09/10/2012 4:49:06 PM PDT by SledgeCS (I will vote for Obama when he admits that his idea of a transparency means "You cannot see it")
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To: verga

Sam Blumenfeld’s “Alphaphonics” book. It’s about $20.

The hard part, or the boring part, is teaching letter sounds. Sesame Street teaches that. So there’s no need to do flash cards anymore.

The first day was traumatic for both girls. See, “A,” “ah,” and “T,” “tuh,” makes “At!”

“Wah!, I don’t get it!”

But by the end of 15 minutes, they could pronounce “at,” “as,” and “ax,” and they were off and running.


57 posted on 09/10/2012 8:06:25 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Tenacious 1

Black leadership is mainly the source of the problem here. Its persistent refusal to address the family destruction has ruined Black society. Back in the days of segregation there were many Black public schools which were outstanding. Those are long gone and the leaders only answer is to do their best to also destroy white schools.


58 posted on 09/10/2012 9:05:52 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: tacticalogic
Mine went to public schools. He's now a nuke on a USN fast attack sub. I'll wager he's not only proficient at reading, but also able to find the logical flaws in that argument.

Then he will tell you that my argument does not preclude the possibility of good students graduating from poor schools; that would be analogous to quantum tunneling, which he would also understand.

59 posted on 09/10/2012 11:17:20 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: ConservativeChris
I think it is what you make it. . . .And...I bet 19 out of 20 freepers children actually could read BEFORE they even went to school.

That sound like Freepers who de-facto homeschool and use the public schools for day care.

even if we lived in Chicago, his grades would still be good

What are the chances that those below grade students in the Chicago Public Schools get commensurate below average grades?

60 posted on 09/10/2012 11:25:18 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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