Posted on 09/10/2012 12:52:53 PM PDT by madprof98
After Mittens manages to thoroughly boot this one, the GOP-e -- still every last bit as incapable of learning from the humiliating failures of their imbecilic McCain Strategy (i.e., "Screw the base, and aggressively fellate each and every last 'moderate' within reach") as they are today, guaranteed -- will double down once again in '16, with Jeb Bush and/or Chris Christie.
Bet the mortgage on it.
To me the gop-e is like rich kids that occasionally drive to the bad neighborhood to play a game that they don't really care about, for a loss that they can forget as soon as their drivers whisk them away towards their gated community. The only real passion they show, is when a conservative comes along that might take the nation into a direction that neither the dems, nor the gop-e wants it to go in.
Yard signs either. If BO loses, I anticipate some shenanigans...
Every cycle is just like this.
You don't think she'd be licking her chops over Gingrich or Perry or Cain?
Romney had the most money by far from day one. He also had the best organization among the primary candidates. He had the money to mount an effective attack on Obama across the country. The others didn't. As a former governor, he has the executive experience that several other primary candidates lacked. And as an additional attraction for the silly voters who go for appearance, he also looks the part. He's clean; no scandals, no corruption in his background. And in a general election, candidates must appeal to the moderate center in order to win, because that's where most of the country falls in terms of indeology.
A 15% lead among independents indicates that his campaign strategy has been effective.
As a social and fiscal conservative, he's not my ideal candidate, but he'll get my vote because Obama is eviscerating our economy and our country can't survive his destructiveness much longer.
Today's polls mean nothing. The real campaign is just beginning.
15 POINT lead among independents
It has been clear to people on here and tea party people in generally that while Romney is a nice fellow, he is the wrong person to take on Obama. It is becoming increasingly clear to some of the idiots who backed him in the GOP=e media that he is not the right candidate.
I believe he is not winning because he made two giant mistakes to hurt the tea party conservative base. The power grab at the RNC convention, which while nobody loves idiot Paulites sacred the tea party into a frenzy when they should have been focused on Obama. And now his support of parts of Obamacare and reaffirming Romneycare. Even if the angry unhappy conservatives support Romney and vote for him the lack of enthusiasm is back and I think the vote might be depressed for Romney. Meaning some people can no longer support him.
Romney has failed to attack Obama where it hurts and instead has not been aggressive enough. I believe it the wrong approach that he was taking since last year. I believe the contest is to aggressively attack Obama with fire and to attract conservative support. Not to pick off Democrats. Paul Ryan is not enough like Sarah Palin was not enough. This battle is over the survival of Freedom on this planet. That means America’s survival without any Rino attached B.S.
I believe the way things maybe shaping up in the past three week that the GOP is finished and Conservatives will want to move out of the party and create an new one after the election. And it will happen if Romney doesn’t become more accepting of the base and wins the election.
I don’t doubt DNC shenanigans but Romney is no Palin, West or DeMint. This we know and therefore they would running a much different campaign.
If that is true then Romney has been successful to some extant. But he isn’t endearing conservatives all the time. That has to have some effect.
Thank you. Smartest thing I heard all day. :)
Here in Kansas I don’t any signs or stickers for anyone. I am the only one with a tea party patriots sticker.
Here in Kansas I don’t see any signs or stickers for anyone. I am the only one with a tea party patriots sticker.
Where are they?
Making nice with that "enormous" voting block of disaffected dems and independents broadcasting the soothing message that Mitt can be their government sponsored hope and change.
True. It should motivate us to work hard to take the House and the Senate along with the Presidency, with as many Conservatives as we can elect. Surround him with conservative legislators.
The other one....
LOL
No.
Team Obama would be mortified to be running against them and would be far more negative and race-card-playing than they already are. I don't think Gingrich or Cain would play soft with Obama's record. Maybe FBI files would help them tone down the rhetoric - but with what they say is at stake - maybe they would go all in against Obama.
The fact the media and Obama's people were on the circuit early last year telegraphing that their 'most difficult opponent would be Romney' - told me everything I needed to know about the set-up we are now suffering.
Bookman is one of several, prominently-featured regime apparatchiks of the AJC. He is a complete stranger to the concepts of facts and truth.
The fact the media and Obama's people were on the circuit early last year telegraphing that their 'most difficult opponent would be Romney' - told me everything I needed to know about the set-up we are now suffering.
I think they expected Romneycare to become the great equalizer between Romney and Obama. But Gingrich and Cain also had baggage that would have been effectively exploited. Newt would have been painted as a mean old white guy as well as a hypocrite because he had once supported an individual mandate along with the Heritage Foundation. Newt's and Herman's philandering ways would have been exploited in order to turn off women voters, both conservative and liberal. Independents and women would have run away in droves because they are squeamish when it comes to tough talk by conservatives, and are foolishly convinced that conservatives are out to forcibly impose their social values on others.
All the primary candidates had their flaws. Romney had the most effective machine, without which no one wins.
You’re right about not listening to the media, but I’m not so sure about this being Reagan/Carter part 2. I hope you’re right, but much has changed, particularly racial/ethnic demographics.
Romney’s lead with whites would have guaranteed an easy victory in 1980, just like it did for Reagan. But now it’s only enough to keep him even, maybe.
Romney isn’t going to lose. The reason he won’t lose is because the tea party, which he has never courted, will pull his fanny out of the fire. They think if they don’t acknowledge the tea party that they won’t have to “play ball” with us after the victory. They are WRONG! We’ll deliver the white house, senate and house but we’re going to expect real changes in how that city works. IMO, the establishment elites are in for a rude awakening. Just because the got their guy does not mean they are going to get their way.
Some reasons include;
1. Racial/ethnic demographics - Mass immigration (and I’m talking legal more than illegal) has predictably and inevitably pushed the nation towards the Left. Most non-whites are natural Democrats, and that includes Hispanics despite what you hear about their social conservatism. Bush pandered like no Republican ever has, and at most he won 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Nothing proves the label ‘stupid party’ more fitting than the GOP’s suicidal embrace of unending mass chain migration.
2. The public dole - more and more people are using welfare, and fewer people are paying income taxes. It’s clear who this helps.
3. Overwhelming media bias - the mainstream media may not be as powerful as it used to be, but it can still drive stories and frame coverage. They still reach tens of millions of Americans. It’s why everyone knows how ‘extreme’ Republicans are on abortion, but why few know that the Democrats are even more extreme in the opposite direction. It’s why an arrogant narcissist like Obama is so ‘likeable.’ It’s why recent polls showing Obama in the lead are presented by the talking media heads with almost orgasmic-like joy. Overall media bias has to be worth several points at least.
4. Overwhelming bias from Hollywood/pop culture - the anti-conservative, anti-Republican, pro-Obama/Democrat messages in movies and tv may be overt and unambiguous, or they may just be a out-of-nowhere line thrown in, but they are there.
5. Overwhelming bias in Education - from Kindergarten to College, the schools are dominated by the Left. From childhood to young adulthood, we are indoctrinated in a liberal worldview.
6. The candidate - Romney isn’t a terrible candidate, but he’s not ideal either. I’m not going to bash Romney, as he was probably the best we could hope among those who actually did run. He’s clearly intelligent, and has the business experience needed...but there’s just something missing. But in light of numbers 1 - 5, I don’t know how far ahead even a perfect conservative candidate could be.
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