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Taliban 'Could Cut Links With Al Qaeda'
Sky News ^ | 10th September 2012 | Sam Kiley

Posted on 09/11/2012 3:33:07 AM PDT by the scotsman

The Taliban may be prepared to renounce terrorism and sever links with al Qaeda, accept a power sharing role in a new Afghan government and even tolerate American bases in their country, according to a new report.

A panel of four experts from the Royal United Services Institute interviewed four senior figures - each one part of the "pragmatic" or "moderate" part of the Islamist movement - at a secret location in the Arabian Gulf.

The four figures, among them two former Taliban ministers, a Mujahideen commander and a well-connected negotiator, surprised the experts by insisting that they had no enmity towards the United States.

They also held out the prospect that the Taliban could even join efforts to rid Afghanistan of al Qaeda if the movement was part of a national government.

Michael Semple, one of the authors of the report who has lead negotiations with elements of the Taliban in the past, said: "This derives from the understanding that there is not going to be a military solution in Afghanistan, that the war being fought is unwinnable, and from a strong sense among some of the 40-something Taliban leadership that they don’t want the country to disintegrate into civil war when foreign forces leave the country in 2014."'

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: clintonadmin; michaelsemple; musaqala; ntsa; robinraphel; semple

1 posted on 09/11/2012 3:33:13 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman
surprised the experts

yep, experts surprised. Must have never happened before.

2 posted on 09/11/2012 3:37:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: the scotsman
They attacked America and now pretend otherwise,
just like America's proMoslem Congress and
obviously Moslem, undocumented, pOTUS;
who work together against real Americans
as they give ONLY MOSLEMS specials rights
such as not being under ObamaCARE.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 3:38:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: the scotsman

Tayyqia in action.


4 posted on 09/11/2012 3:41:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: the scotsman

Complete and utter bull squats!

BTW, whatever happened to the simple past tense?
“ who has lead negotiations”


5 posted on 09/11/2012 3:50:25 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: the scotsman

And I would trust and believe them, too.

/sarc


6 posted on 09/11/2012 4:14:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Diogenesis

That was al Quaeda.....not the Taliban. A difference definitely with a distinction (and no, I don’t like either of these groups of bastards), but facts matter here. This may be the only way out of that hell hole.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 4:23:03 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: the scotsman

Looks like the current crop is dredging up the Saudi/Pakistan butt-kissing crap from the 1990s ... worked out real well then, too /s

Rep. ROHRABACHER (1999) — How the Clinton Administration brought the Taliban to power
Senate testimony | April 14, 1999 | Rep. Dana Rohrabacher
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/535202/posts


8 posted on 09/11/2012 4:33:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: the scotsman

And monkeys could fly out of my butt.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 4:36:20 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: the scotsman; All
Geez! When are they going to learn? I'll bet these same people have those COEXIST stickers on their cars too.

Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers

Hey panty-wastes, I've got your COEXIST right here.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 4:41:12 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: RightOnline

They harbored them. Guilty.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 4:42:41 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: the scotsman

uh huh

Like George Bush didn’t offer them this option in October ‘01


12 posted on 09/11/2012 4:43:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: RightOnline

The Taliban and Pakistan is what started the whole mess.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 4:47:12 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: the scotsman
"...senior figures - each one part of the "pragmatic" or "moderate" part of the Islamist movement..."

Game. Set. Match. There is no such critter as a "moderate" Mohammedan. Strike the tents, boys, and just march out. If Afghanistan descends into civil war, the rest of the world will remain safe, as the Taliban and Al Qeda preoccupy themselves with slitting each others throats.
14 posted on 09/11/2012 4:47:56 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: the scotsman
Absolute bullshit.
Meanwhile muslims trained by the allied forces continue to turn their weapons on their trainers and assassinate them.
These people do not want to be brought out of the 7th century. They do not want nor can they understand freedom and liberty. They follow a religion of oppression and death. They will never be civilized.
15 posted on 09/11/2012 4:52:07 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for e an the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: the scotsman
Of *course* they *could* cut ties just as my border collie *could* start performing brain surgery later today.
16 posted on 09/11/2012 5:23:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: piasa
(Well, the Russians really did start it-- the Pakis, being opportunistic, just took over the messmaking job when the Russians were out of the way, to be joined by the Clinton Admin which had switched support from Massood to Hekmatyar. )
17 posted on 09/11/2012 5:27:32 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: the scotsman; windcliff; stylecouncilor

islamists belong dead, not dealt with.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 5:50:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: the scotsman

Yeah, that’s the thing about fanatics, always willing to compromise their core principles.

Yeah, that’s the thing about people who believe fanatics when they say they are willing to compromise their core principles.

I actually respect the fanatics more in this case, because they are obviously lying to save their skin and their agenda. And that’s a legitimate tactic.

But those that believe them are just stupid suckers, with no understanding of history, no core values, arrogantly convinced of their intellectual and moral superiority, and thus just patsies for the fanatics.

And the latter are so disappointed when the fanatics double cross them. Suckers.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 5:58:27 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: no-to-illegals
Michael Semple, one of the authors of the report who has lead negotiations with elements of the Taliban in the past, said: "This derives from the understanding that there is not going to be a military solution in Afghanistan, that the war being fought is unwinnable, and from a strong sense among some of the 40-something Taliban leadership that they don’t want the country to disintegrate into civil war when foreign forces leave the country in 2014."'

This guy Semple tried this before and got people killed. Some place called Musa Qala. Semple's probably one of John Kerry's [think of his Paris rogue diplomacy trying to help the North Vietnamese] and Holbrooke's ilk. The Taliban do not think they are losing. They know all they have to do is wait us out, which was OBL and Mullah Omar's plan from the beginning- start something, engage us, kill some, watch us run... consolidate position, start something, wash, rinse, repeat until they win. OBL said Americans are weak and can always be counted on to run. The idea that the Obama admin and others are trying to lay out- that you can announce your withdrawal in advance and expect to leave as victors is delusional. You've already capitulated. In most articles the Obama admin is trying to claim Karzai is driving the idea of talks with the Taliban when it is clearly Holbrooke, is just the Obama admin trying to avoid responsibility and blame for fear of damage on the election trail. But they have to go through with it for their agenda- to engineer defeat as they did in the 70s.

20 posted on 09/11/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

There is an alternate view of what will happen after the US leaves. The taliban will be slaughtered along with wives and male children.

To attempt some reconciliation is to prevent slaughter. It makes sense for the cooler taliban heads to look forward and attempt to prevent the coming slaughter


21 posted on 09/11/2012 6:25:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: piasa; John W

Thought I was clear.....I loathe the sumbitches, but the Taliban did NOT attack NYC on 9/11. If they’re sick of getting their butts kicked by our military and now want to distance themselves from al Quaeda.....fine; we’ll take it. To suggest they “started this” is inaccurate. Yes, they harbored al Quaeda types and backed them, but these are largely a group of uneducated rubes. It took some (sick) smarts to pull of 9/11, not to mention serious $$$ that only al Quaeda possessed.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 6:48:55 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: piasa
A thought and probably a fact ... It would be nice to know how bad things really are. Best guess is things are really bad. Another best guess is our leadership, for whatever reason, on both sides of the isle have decided not to tell we the people anything about anything. Wonder why? Do they think we would panic?

That of which I typed is of more than simply the outlay mentioned. It involves much more than the arabs. Think corner, and where our nation is in this the present. Are we (Americans) in the corner, or do we want them to think we are in the corner? Do they have us where they want us, or have we played 'rope-a-dope'?

23 posted on 09/11/2012 5:51:19 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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