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Former CIA director on SEAL book: "We're not going to accept this kind of behavior"
CBS ^ | September 11, 2012

Posted on 09/11/2012 8:30:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is speaking out for the first time about the Navy SEAL who continues to make headlines with his revealing book about the night Osama bin Laden was killed.

Panetta spoke with "CBS This Morning" co-host, Norah O'Donnell, and while he maintained that Americans have a right to know details about the raid, he came out against the SEAL -- who goes by the pseudonym Mark Owen -- and his book. "There's no question that the American people have a right to know about this operation," Panetta said. "But people who are a part of....

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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve got my copy so I can compare it with the redacted copy that is published by “Leon’s” staff

What, no redacted copy?

Hmmm

Maybe all the real “grave damage” to US security was already done by BigMouth Tom Donilon in the NYT, and in the stacks of CIA docs obamugabe’s handlers gave the Hollywood filmmakers for their puff piece on big brave Puff Daddy, eh Leon?


41 posted on 09/11/2012 9:57:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Cicero

Never forget all the rat-faced US Senators voted 100 to 0 to confirm Commie Leon Panetta as DOD Chief!


42 posted on 09/11/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: AaronInCarolina

In my above comments, I meant the way that CBS handled the story this morning on the CBS Morning Show.


43 posted on 09/11/2012 9:59:42 AM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: NRA1995

Weren’t several members of Seal Team Six killed in a helicopter crash a few months after the raid?

this was after they were identified by Obamma et al.


44 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:42 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: plain talk

I would argue that the Obamanistas deliberately exaggerated the circumstances in order to change perceptions.

Just last week at the DNC, Obama said it was only 50/50 that Bin Laden was at the compound.

According to the book, the CIA was 100% sure. 100%.

Also, the media kept pushing the narrative about what a “gutsy” call it was to approve the raid. While I agree that it was a bold and aggressive move, it was also a no-brainer. And he apparently hemmed and hawed about it before making a decision.

I am grateful this SEAL set the record straight.


45 posted on 09/11/2012 10:02:42 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Noamie

I told you that I hadn’t read the book, that I only know what I had read on the internet. I guess that I was wrong.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

That is not what I read. I read it was a capture or kill. The SEAL went to great pains to explain why he couldn’t be captured. Why would be bother with that? This is based on excerpts and welcome clarifications. I could be mistaken. I just don’t see anything here other than sloppy debriefing and differing accounts. I don’t see a gotcha here


47 posted on 09/11/2012 10:05:13 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Noamie
Maybe you should re-read that part... He is very specific that they knew that by the time they got to the third floor, that was the last place in the compound and the CIA analysis said that this was his residence. The team had very good NVGs and the building was in complete darkness. Their opponent had only the door opening to shoot from - if he'd had a weapon available - while the attackers had a better field of fire down that hall.

The "nails in the coffin" were the bursts of fire into bin Laden's chest even though he was alread well head-shot. Nobody does that if there were any orders to try to take him alive. You'll also note that there wasn't any mention in their preparation of restraints/hoods/cuffs or anyone with real arabic language skills. If you were going to capture a high-profile target like bin Laden, a self-taught member of the SEAL team is not adequate.

It was an assasination mission - which is fine if that's the best thing for our country - but we deserve the truth, not some fairy story from our leaders.

48 posted on 09/11/2012 10:07:24 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pinheada and the rest of the oblunder admin are acting ridiculously. Puleez...if there were REALLY national secrets at stake in the book, they would have gone to court for a quick injunction against printing it, and gotten the injunction.

Do yourselves a favor and head to your nearest local bookstore and pick up a copy. It’s the American way.


49 posted on 09/11/2012 10:11:28 AM PDT by gotribe
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To: Retired Greyhound

If there was an angle to this to justify lying you probably have it. To obama the important thing is that the operation makes him look good. What you posted makes sense.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 10:23:46 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obama outranks them, they’ll have to accept this behavior.


51 posted on 09/11/2012 10:52:36 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I've read the reviews on Amazon for this book.

There are a LOT of 1-star reviews and by far the majority are military men who are upset that this Seal wrote this book.

They say it's a betrayal of the team, he just did it to get rich, etc.

Don't know exactly what the motives are. But it was pretty common knowledge that Obama was going to make a movie on the raid and take credit. It's possible this guy's motive was purely to pre-empt Obama's move by making sure the Seals got the credit.

52 posted on 09/11/2012 11:20:41 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

I’m certain there are plenty of those who CLAIM to be military who are upset....

I wonder, if in their 1 star reviews, these “military” people express disdain for Obamugabe revealing the SEAL team that did the job?


53 posted on 09/11/2012 11:23:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Timber Rattler

“This SEAL is in serious trouble if DoD decides to risk the PR backlash and prosecute him.”

Were I President the last thing I’d want to do is to piss off a SEAL and, perhaps, his friends.


54 posted on 09/11/2012 11:53:11 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
You could be right that there are fakes in the 1-star reviews, but I do get the feeling that quite a few of them are genuine military. I imagine the debate is raging right now in Special Ops over whether a fellow SEAL should make a fortune on publicizing an operation.

Yes, there are quite a few comments disdaining Hussein, but the primary point of debate is the book.

Take a look...(312 reviews alreaady posted...that's a lot for a book that just came out a few days ago...far more positives than negatives though.)

http://www.amazon.com/No-Easy-Day-Firsthand-Account/dp/0525953728/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1347388978&sr=8-5&keywords=one+day

55 posted on 09/11/2012 11:56:27 AM PDT by what's up
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To: SoFloFreeper
Special Operations OPSEC targets Obama for reckless intelligence leaks (FR thread)

Dishonorable Disclosures (22:00 Youtube video)

Special Operations (OPSEC) (website to get involved)

(Use keywords 'obamaleaks' and 'opsec' for this topic)

56 posted on 09/11/2012 12:01:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Chainmail

“or anyone with real arabic language skills”
“Nobody does that if there were any orders to try to take him alive.”
“some fairy story from our leaders.”

I believe that you’re making some errant assumptions.

Hey, for the record, I’m ok with them killing him. For what it’s worth.


57 posted on 09/11/2012 1:50:07 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie
I'm not assuming, I'm analyzing. I have a long service history, some of it involved in operations planning including operations overseas and operations requiring professional linguists. I also have some history with working with SEALs. My opinions are based on some of these experiences.

For the record, I'm OK with Osama being dead too - but I think it would have been better to snatch him alive and make him go through the full rigorous interrogation regime and suffer for a while - a long while. As it was, our trigger happy shooter tapped him in the brain and he didn't feel a thing. We got a ton of information out of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and we could have gotten a lot more out of UBL - like where his next in command is hiding.

The world, particularly the Islamic world, would have been much more impressed if we'd brought him back in chains. We didn't because our president and his lawyers didn't want to risk it and maybe because the SEALs aren't the right bunch to send if you want to capture someone.

58 posted on 09/11/2012 2:09:38 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Fiat Justitia Ruat Coelum!



Let the prosecution of "Mark Owen" proceed as soon as the indictments issue against Obama and his henchmen who leaked the identity of Seal Team Six to our enemies! The blood of those gallant men is on their hands!




Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

59 posted on 09/11/2012 5:44:09 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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