Posted on 09/12/2012 12:59:07 PM PDT by neverdem
Wisconsin ping. Chicago turning into Wisconsin?
FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.
My sister and BIL went to my nephew's teacher/parent night at a private high school in Fort Lauderdale. There were two new teachers from the public school system. One was Chinese teacher. She was in bliss. She could not believe how wonderful it was to be a teacher at the school. The students are respectful, they want to learn, they work hard and the parents are interested in the school, their children and the teachers. The other teacher is teaching calculus. He said the same thing.
LOL good one! I hope this state wakes up, but I wouldn’t count on it, as soon as we re-elected Pat Quinn here in Illinois I have no hope left for this state, I may actually move to Wisconsin in a decade.
Teachers in Illinois get 75% of average of last 4 years of salary after 30 years. Still think that's not generous?
Why doesn’t the school board fire all who belong to the teacher’s union and start hiring replacement teachers a la RR with the air traffice controllers?
The teacher’s union idiots would start puckering.
While you have your calculator out, run these numbers: 350,000 students divided by 25,000 teachers on strike, and that’s the average class size.
350/25 = 14
$684 million in teachers pensions divided by 25,000 teachers = $27,360 retirement funding per teacher for one year..... something smells real bad
What you said! If they think that's bad, let them live on 401Ks like the rest of us poor slobs. No wonder our property taxes are so high.
When are they going to arrest Obama and the crooks.
“I feel sorry for the CTU.”
Only if you don’t know them.
I doubt Illinois will wake up and pull a Wisconsin.
Agreed! But they should demand better working conditions - not more pay!
LOL!!!
Chicago teachers have their own pension system which is not state funded.
Class warfare over supposedly outrageous salaries are the Democrat stock in trade. Those who make over 200K are supposed to be our enemies. They aren’t, neither are teacher salaries.
Why would you believe a pension of about $50 K is so much? That is probably the average pension of a teacher in Illinois.
It was heartbreaking to hear the tales my wife would tell me about her students’ lives. She had one kindergarten child who was HUNG because his mother did not pay the dope dealer.
He was found in the stairwell of one of the hell hole projects.
Her students could not do math or understand English but they could turn out, under her direction, great art projects. They saw that they could do something and that may have been the first time some understood that. Needless to say they adored her. Being beautiful with long hair didn’t hurt. Her little girls would just come up to her to touch her hair.
I never understood how the Lord could take her away from those kids so early.
Bears and Packers fans living together....mass hysteria.
These jobs need a high salary to retain personnel and even so they have a high burnout rate and escape (to the suburbs) rate.
School systems are probably the political entities closest to the People and easiest to get under their control.
So it is obvious that Education is something people like to bitch and moan about but rarely do anything.
This class warfare is not worthy of FR. And at any rate the real question is not what the average income in Chicago but what the average income FOR COLLEGE GRADUATES in Chicago is. Would you not suspect that it would be close to the avg for teachers? And a large percentage of teachers have Masters degree.
Do people have no analytic abilities at all?
Class sizes are 30 or over.
Discounting the 2008 election since it had an Illinois senator running they had trended better in the previous 4 elections:
1992 34.34%
1996 36.81%
2000 42.58%
2004 44.48%
2008 36.78%
Where do you get the idea that pupils in Chicago are like normal kids? Or come from a culture that respects learning and/or teachers in ANY way?
You do realize, I would hope that without discipline there will be no real learning, and that the civil rights lawyers have made sure there is no disciplining these students.
It is correct that most college graduates can teach a child or children but the problem is that under these conditions few people can put up with all the BS year after year. Lunatic parents, wild kids and insane federal, state and local bureaucratic crap. Half the funding is absorbed by the bureaucracy.
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