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Dethrone the EPA (Robert Zubrin)
National Review Online ^ | September 12, 2012 | Robert Zubrin

Posted on 09/12/2012 8:22:22 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

The environmental vomit of the EPA has been passed down to states, created regional pseudo governments, and even lower level of government. The entire spectrum of entities attracts people who like to use government laws and regulations for power over others,powers which they can not get otherwise. These people create their own language under cover of law. They then use their language to make their own law. Nixon didn’t know or realize the government monster being set up and the legislatures/courts bottom to top don’t help or care about the negative consequences.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 4:18:10 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: neverdem

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

It is somewhat disingenuous to propose that US oil production would have continued at the same rate, but in reality we can’t possibly know how the situation would have developed if the oil industry had more of a free hand. Certainly, right now, it could rapidly close the gap between the blue and green line in absence of the EPA.

I will be sending this on to a few folks I know, including some liberal-leaning folks, to support my attempts to instruct them as to the destructiveness of over-regulation.

Thanks for the post.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 5:01:24 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

oops - should have been “gap between the green and purple lines...”

I intended to double check that before hitting post, but neglected to do so. Also, meant to specify that I consider that to be a very minor quibble with the author’s main points of how destructive the EPA has been to the growth of the US economy. I believe our growth rate would have been at least 50% higher (+1 or +2%/yr) if the US were not saddled with the super high costs of over-regulation, which now amounts to 1.7 Trillion dollars/yr.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 5:06:50 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Jim Noble; Free Vulcan

Unfortunately, you are both right to at least some extent.

The number one problem is that Congress is writing vague laws that they then allow other agencies (EPA, OSHA, FDA, etc.) to interpret. Then utopians have gotten control of those agencies, by infiltration and through courts or green lobby or safety advocates, and have forced ever more expansive definitions of the powers of the agencies.

Given the way this has developed historically, it seems to me important to create a reasonable way to handle this unintended expansion of interpretation. Possibly, if Congress were to pass a law that a simple majority vote of only ONE Chamber of Congress is sufficient to veto an expansive action of an agency.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 5:23:51 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: neverdem

bump


25 posted on 09/13/2012 5:24:20 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Jim Noble; AFPhys

Thanks guys. I get agitated about this because I don’t want conservatives to take their eye off the ball. We all know if we actually got rid of the EPA, enforcement would just go to some other agency and probably be more sinister and draconian at that.

The other thing that galls me is that we’ve never elected officials with the huevos to change the laws and much better define the the enforcement agency’s powers. We’ve turned all these basically into tribunals enforcing religion masquerading as ideology, instead of science. There needs to be a massive rewrite of all those laws, in some cases complete repeal.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 5:49:33 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: neverdem

The EPA’s action in Rapanos v US amounted to extortion and outright sedition. Congress refused to hold hearings. The EPA exists because the Congress allows it to exist. The sooner that we realize that Washington is run by a criminal fascist syndicate, the sooner we can start taking action against these totalitarians through the states.

Get ready for war.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 6:28:30 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Jacquerie
In the big picture, Romney will not support the elimination or even trim the wings of a single agency. He will, as Newt predicted, “manage our decline” as he works with the hapless rino Congressional leadership.

In the big picture, Romney is just a holding action. ABO!

Romney's record in MA may mean something or nothing. MA is a weird place, IMHO. Rats controlled about five sixths of MA's legislature when Romneycare was passed. That was going to happen anyway, whatever name it was called. It was a veto-proof legislature. The idea of an individual mandate to buy health insurance came from the conservative Heritage Foundation, IIRC.

When Scott Brown took Ted Kennedy's seat in the U.S. Senate, rat voter registration in MA was only a little more than 38 %, and the pubbies were only a little more than 11 %. I was so surprised by Scott Brown's win that I looked up those numbers.

28 posted on 09/13/2012 12:20:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: umgud
“The EPA has morphed into the fourth branch of government and in the process, has greatly nullified our system of representative gov’t.

EPA is staffed by anti-capitalists who seem to gravitate to regulatory gov’t jobs.”

Coal fired power plants are now shutting down due to these tyrants.
Where will that electricity generation capacity be made up?

I would put a Romney sign in my yard if he would pledge to slash EPA’s budget.

29 posted on 09/13/2012 12:24:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“I would put a Romney sign in my yard if he would pledge to slash EPA’s budget.”

And who holds the budgetary purse strings in DC..... those ball-less wonders in the House.

Yep.... I’m holding my breath.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 4:25:37 PM PDT by LastDayz (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: LastDayz
And who holds the budgetary purse strings in DC..... those ball-less wonders in the House.

Yep.... I’m holding my breath.

Since Dingy Harry and his Senate majority decided to use continuing resolutions over three years ago, why are you casting aspersions on the House?

31 posted on 09/13/2012 6:15:32 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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