Posted on 09/12/2012 9:07:22 PM PDT by kathsua
I have little sympathy for any woman who with premeditation arranges to slaughter her baby(ies) for any reason whatsoever. Sorry. Unless she's shackled and tied down at the abortuary (like they do in China), then she HAS taken part in her child's conscious and deliberate murder.
This attempt to make the woman who lets someone kill her child into some kind of victim is getting tiring.
I suggest that when you do this, you make extensive use of your eyes and ears, and severely curtail the use of your mouth.
IMO, you have much to learn.
You might also learn a thing or two by listening to former Prisoners of War discuss their experiences. A Planned Barrenhood facility is not the Hanoi Hilton; the rotten bastards plying their trade therein are not NVA interrogators. There are, however, many parallels.
That is what we call a "half truth". There's no falsehood in it, but there is much left out. I hope it's simply a matter of ignorance on your part. Ignorance is curable.
Don't call me ignorant. There are 3,300 Americans slaughtered every day in our country by these butchers . . . they can't slaughter a baby without the consent of the bearer of the baby . . . don't call me ignorant . . . we've nambly-pambly coddled the "mother" part of this tragedy by calling them victims.
They are the key to the wholesale slaughter of 50,000,000 murdered Americans since 1973. That sir (or ma'am) does not warrant calling me ignorant.
I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Learn to live with it.
American Abortions Statistics since 1973
1973 744,600
1974 898,600
1975 1,034,200
1976 1,179,300
1977 1,316,700
1978 1,409,600
1979 1,497,700
1980 1,553,900
1981 1,577,300
1982 1,573,900
1983 1,575,000
1984 1,577,200
1985 1,588,600
1986 1,574,000
1987 1,559,100
1988 1,590,800
1989 1,566,900
1990 1,608,600
1991 1,556,500
1992 1,528,900
1993 1,495,000
1994 1,423,000
1995 1,359,400
1996 1,360,200
1997 1,335,000
1998 1,319,000
1999 1,314,800
2000 1,313,000
2001 1,291,000
2002 1,269,000
2003 1,250,000
2004 1,222,100
2005 1,206,200
2006 1,242,200
2007 1,209,600
2008 1,212,400
2009-11 1,212,400
54,559,61 Total abortions since 1973
And every single one of these slaughtered babies had a “mother” who brought them to the abortuary to be killed. That’s a lot of poor widdle itty bitty to-be-pitied “mommies.”
Pathetic.
Imho, you may be missing ArrogantBustard’s point, which if I understand correctly, is that Planned Parenthood preys on the fears, naivety and lack of education among young women. Someone who has never been to one of their sites might well be unaware of what goes on there. Reading an article can only give us so much information.
You appear to completely lack any comprehension of the reality behind those numbers.
Every single one of those dead babies is the result of some girl or young woman making the mental journey from "Holy crap! I'm pregnant! I can't handle this ..." to "Abortion is my only solution ..." There are forces in this world; forces in the mass media, in the public schools, in the demonicRat Party, in the courts, at Planned Barrenhood, fully dedicated to convincing that girl or young woman that abortion is her only option. Those foul creatures will lie, cheat, coerce, intimidate, isolate, do anything and everything they can to break her down and make her think only of aborting her pregnancy. They have both ideological and financial incentives to carry out their perverted agenda.
Thanks be to God, there are also forces at work in this world; forces in Churches, private schools, pregnancy centers, families, and elsewhere dedicated to convincing that girl or young woman that she should keep her child alive. They have no financial incentive, only their firm belief that abortion is a most foul and hideous wrong. They cannot do their work without also understanding the very deranged world in which the pregnant girls and young women they help are living.
So go ahead: post the numbers. They're important, and too few people know them.
But until you understand the horrid and very strange reality behind those numbers (and you evidence no understanding thereof), you won't really be able to reduce those numbers in the future.
I can't imagine how anyone nowadays could imagine that Planned Predators was anything more than an abortuary. I think that, in most cases, it's a convenient excuse to say that they didn't have any idea as to what goes on in there.
In any case, let's move on and pray for the souls of those millions of innocent babies slaughtered since 1973 . . . a couple generations of Americans.
Which is why the subject of this thread is important. Lest we forget, that subject is what Operation Rescue is trying to accomplish here.
Well, there's a big part of your problem, right there.
let's move on and pray for the souls of those millions of innocent babies slaughtered since 1973
No, let's NOT "move on". Let's deal right now, today, with the 3000 girls and young women being pressured to kill their kids TODAY. Whatcha gonna do? Get in their faces? Yell and scream, tell 'em how evil they are? Drag 'em by their hair out of the kill-zone?
I think that, in most cases, it's a convenient excuse
I think you have absolutely no clue whatsoever as to the appalling amount of deliberately fostered pig-ignorance and inability to think clearly that's going on out there.
I reiterate my comments in #22.
Wow! Sure got a mouth on you, don't you. Not enough to just diagree, is it? I hope you feel better now.
I will continue with my belief that there are three parties to each abortion:
1. (the mother) The bearer of the child(ren)
2. (the enabler) The one who takes "mommy" to the abortuary.
3. (the killer) The abortionist.
I happened to know one of those "mommies" who pretended that she didn't know what they do at Planned Predators, pretended that she was just going to get rid of some "obligate parasitic cells," and every year since then, she admits that she knew quite well EXACTLY what she was doing and hates herself for it. Instead of a birthday of her child, all she has is a "death day" once each year when she realizes exactly what she did.
I pity her, but realize that she readily admits AFTER what she did, that she was complicit in the murder of her own child.
This isn’t about you. Good grief.
So, what? Do you honestly think there aren't a whole huge lot of teenage girls and young women out there who are pig-ignorant regarding the reality of abortion, and unable to think clearly about it? Do you seriously propose that a 13 year old daughter of a 'single mom', raised by TV and educated by the public schools, has the same grasp of the facts, the same ability to process them, as you do?
I will continue with my belief that there are three parties to each abortion:
So, you choose to ignore the flood of pro-abortion propaganda in the public schools, the flood of pro-abortion propaganda on the TV, the "counselors" at the kill-center, the family members and 'friends' with various interests in "getting rid of it" ... Once again, you have posted a partial truth.
I happened to know one of those "mommies"
I reiterate my comments in #22. Spend some time watching and listening at a pregnancy center; you'll get to know a whole lot more of them.
Instead of a birthday of her child, all she has is a "death day" once each year when she realizes exactly what she did.
Yep ... the abortion industry, and its fellow-traveling propagandists, don't bother to mention that ...
OBTW, 13 year old inner-city girls don't talk about "obligate parasites".
There certainly are abortion-minded women who fit that description, but they are one end of a continuum. At the other end are those women who absolutely will not, ever, willingly participate in an abortion regardless of the circumstances. There's a lot of ignorance, folly, malice, greed, coercion and deception in the middle. There's also a lot of truth, wisdom, compassion, prayer, and material help combating the evil. It's a spiritual battleground. Unfortunately, some folks don't understand it.
A friend, a University medical ethicist in the UK --- pro-life --- reports himself to be in a vanishingly small minority. If you can "con" the elite end-product of Western Civilization, the ones with a refined, Great Books Oxbridge education, you can certainly "con" a 20-something whose spiritual formation consists of TV, the public school and the Mall: there she is, with her positive pregnancy test and her head full of putty.
One of the abortionists here in upper east TN is a member of a local Christian church --- deacon or elder or something like that --- a good friend of the mayor, the (Republican) representative in the TN legislative district, and the chief of police.
The pregnant girls whose boyfriend drop them off at this guy's office --- they may know they're in the wrong. Maybe their blood tells them. But they're surrounded by a whole lying community --- the elders, the authority figures --- who say everything's fine.
Everything's just goddamn fine and dandy.
There certainly are abortion-minded women who fit that description, but they are one end of a continuum. At the other end are those women who absolutely will not, ever, willingly participate in an abortion regardless of the circumstances. There's a lot of ignorance, folly, malice, greed, coercion and deception in the middle. There's also a lot of truth, wisdom, compassion, prayer, and material help combating the evil. It's a spiritual battleground. Unfortunately, some folks don't understand it.
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Exactly right.
Half the population is below average.
Technically, that's the "median" of the distribution, not the "mean" or the "mode".
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Yes, excellent point. Imagine a teenage girl (or even older) with an I.Q. of 90 who may not even really grasp how she became pregnant, and having adults in authority, and possibly her parents and boy friend telling her that abortion is the correct thing to do. Someone has to be on the side of that girl and her baby, because being against her may not do anything but scare her.
they conned the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, jr into having one when she was young.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/africanamerican/howcandreamsurvive.htm
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