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Gun Sales Hinge on Obama Re-Election
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Posted on 09/14/2012 3:28:35 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: papertyger

I don’t know....


81 posted on 09/15/2012 6:53:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: familyop

My 45 is most definitely my DEFENSIVE weapon.

At 200 yds my tactic would be separation and Disengagement, especially if opfor has long guns. In other words flee and live to fight another day. Never bring a pistol to a rifle fight.

In my mind i don’t have many self defense scenarios at 200 yds. Combat scenarios are a different perspective.

But again i admire your ability to hit what you aim at with a semi auto pistol at 200 yds. Truly amazing if the target is moving and returning fire.


82 posted on 09/15/2012 7:17:35 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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Not a semi-auto pistol (target type revolver, bore lapped, handloads, etc.). The point was that some situations are different from others. I was alluding to bear defense or hunting in a sometimes unearthly cold and windy area. For example, imagine going to feed the chickens early every morning, after bear have been close and watching the chickens often. One might not want to carry a shotgun with slugs to the chicken coop every day, or carry the same to do fencing all day.

A lady a little to the north of me (Wyoming) took an antelope at about 125 yards with such a revolver. And yes, it was pretty nearly a sure hit for her. As for other defense (say, against human attackers), one would use what one carries. Some people even spend the necessary time and expenses necessary for carrying single action. In most places (more urban/suburban), the .45 ACP would rule due to least expensive, shorter training time and several other considerations (lack of recoil, avoiding over-penetration, no big animal predators, etc.).

Another scenario example: I wouldn’t bother with having a rifle if living in a built-up or more populated area (suburbs), unless I went on hunting trips or to accuracy matches. That’s just me. Shotgun or pistol’s fine for defense in a more populated place, and I’m old enough to have many other projects that require enough time and money. In a very sparsely populated area with much visibility (e.g., no trees) and no nearby neighbors, though, any competent person capable with firearms should have some kind of rifle of at least fair accuracy (no law enforcement near enough to arrest snipers for me in time, possibility of pot-shot/sniper attacks from greater distances).

Firearms are good tools, properly used. They just happen to be in style now more than most decades. For now, many folks indulge in various end-of-the-world reveries that are encouraged by popular journalism and various personal worries. Here are some examples. Many of my Baby Boomer peers are pondering our natural mortality (age). Others feeling that they are lacking options for happier lives, so they react by imagining futures with sweeping changes in the world. Others, yet, try to use stories about catastrophes (man-made global warming, desertification, exaggerations of trivial solar events, overpopulation, predictions from various religions) for monetary or political gains.

Human nature, in some ways and at some times, is almost comical in the context of history.


83 posted on 09/15/2012 12:52:56 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: Blueflag

To be more clear, for most people in life-threatening self-defense situations, a good .45 semi-auto pistol is the best handgun that I know of. Shotgun, where feasible, of course. Most firearm defense situations for most people are close, dark and fast.

But a few of us live, work or play in circumstances strange to most (e.g., my place: kinda like Mars in several ways). Others just like to be different and make sure that something odd would work for defense.

Shoot, a six-foot chipper (steel bar with a point on one end and chisel on the other, for concrete work) would work for a man who practiced a few years to throw it accurately and hard enough—even for bear defense (see kung fu). [Hmmm...might work for herding a mean yak bull immune to a wooden staff, too.]


84 posted on 09/15/2012 1:50:00 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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85 posted on 09/17/2012 7:46:31 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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Oh thanks! I’m hoping this ligament will be healed by then, either naturally, or through surgery. If not, my son thinks I can get the jeep into where I need to be. The elk are thick as fleas. All I will have to do is sit still long enough for them to come to me.


86 posted on 09/17/2012 8:05:57 AM PDT by pallis
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