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1 posted on 09/18/2012 3:37:18 AM PDT by Kaslin
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According to the American Research Group, Obama leads Romney among voters under age 50 while Romney leads Obama among voters under age 50 and above. http://americanresearchgroup.com/. Seems the age of accountability and reason has bumped to 50 and older.

So what happened 50 years ago (1962)? What caused this change from a brave and ardent love of freedom to a weak acquiescence to socialist tyranny? How were children raised and educated after 1962 that caused this incredible shift? How did public schools go from education that included the Bible and prayer to socialist indoctrination run by socialist-loving teacher unions?

One may point to many reasons, but something socially, morally, and legally significant and catastrophic happened in 1962, and hardly anyone noticed it at the time. Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962), the famous “establishment” case of “separation of church and state,” outlawed prayer in public schools. As Justice Stewart wrote in his dissent, “the Court says that in permitting school children to say this simple prayer, the New York authorities have established ‘an official religion’” (Engel, 370 U.S. 421).

This is where misapplication of the establishment clause to create “separation of church and state” has taken us – to the brink of Marxist tyranny, the destruction of the freedoms protected by our Constitutional Republic, and economic collapse. The fact is, the First Amendment of the Constitution NEVER RESTRICTS FREE AND PEACEFUL RELIGIOUS EXERCISE in government, out of government, or anywhere else. The Constitution ONLY RESTRICTS THE STATE from either establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Many Christians are confused about this and have allowed the other side to dictate the terms and results in the fight for freedom. The issue today is not an establishment issue, not even close. The issue is the socialists’ use of a Jeffersonian metaphor (“separation of church and state”) in place of the text and meaning of the Constitution to push Christianity and Constitutional free exercise and expression out of government and public life. If God’s people at the foundation of our country were so timid about instilling the things of God in government, we never would have had, for example, the government buildings as well as monuments in Washington D.C. with scripture carved in stone. These artifacts as well as the Constitution itself testify against lie of “the separation of church and state” embraced by our popular culture.

The health of a government DEPENDS ON THE free exercise of religion evidenced by the history of America, probably the healthiest form of government in history. The Book of Revelation in the Bible begins with describing how God's presence is in the midst of his people, the church(es) (Rev. 1:12-3:22). It ends with a description of God's presence in the midst of His people, the holy city, the New Jerusalem (Rev 22:2). In the midst of God’s people is a "tree of life," the leaves of which are "for the healing of the nations."

We, the church, institutionally and individually, have God's life and healing so desperately needed in the nations including America. The history of our nation reflects a direct relationship between the involvement of God’s people in government as well as society, and the health of our country that has flourished with individual liberty. Separating the church from the state is like separating the doctor from the patient or the medicine from the wounded. It’s up to God’s people to muster the courage and resolve to get this medicine back into the bloodstream of the dying patient.

2 posted on 09/18/2012 3:40:05 AM PDT by PapaNew
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The MSM is doing their best to try to make this the game breaking gaffe.

The sad truth is Romney is correct.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 3:50:36 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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I had to turn Romney off last night

What a colorless fool

At least explained his lofty goal. To get 50.1% of the vote by aiming his campaign at 4% of the electorate who are “undecided”

How inspiring. He puts the fate of our nation in the hands of 4% of the people who are such idiots they cannot decide who to vote for, or are going to vote for obama and are ashamed to admit it

With our nation in grave peril, he showed less passion than a man arguing to the city council why he should be allowed to trim the trees on his lot

6 posted on 09/18/2012 3:52:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Now cast your votes sheeeeeeeple!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQSpbwKkdg&list=PL08FD35E184A24E7F&index=0&feature=plcp


9 posted on 09/18/2012 3:55:56 AM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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Until we discover a cure for stupidity, we will be in this predicament for a long time.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 3:59:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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It's likely an offshoot of the conservative talking point that 47% of Americans don't pay income taxes. Which is true! But unfortunately, a lot of conservatives make the leap from there to claim that total tax burden isn't high enough on middle- and lower-income people (without taking into account things like sales and payroll taxes) and that either they should pay more taxes or we should slash social spending.

Contrary to the author's assertion that the 47% not paying federal income taxes does not translate to 'on the government dole,' I completely disagree. NOT having to pay income taxes, moreover the large percentage of this 47% actually getting ETIC money back they never paid in, is 'on the government dole' in my book.

They simply are not paying their fair share for the expense of running the government, wasteful as it is.

I was in Walmart a couple of weeks ago. Two heifers with kids were blocking the produce aisle talking about deals, etc. As they parted, one said to the other "we have to stick together until November". The dumb one said "what?" ...the other said "you know, until the election". Both later checked out with WICs certificates and EBT cards - paid not one red cent for a full cart of groceries. These are the 47%.

12 posted on 09/18/2012 3:59:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Our media loves to attack Romney for telling the truth. Romney was right to condemn the Cairo apology after our embassy flag was torn down and replaced with the al Quaida flag. The lame-streams did everything they could to protect Zero by going after Romney.

Once again Romney is being attacked for telling the truth. Obama has purposely created dependence on government to get votes. These 47% will vote for the guy who gives them free stuff. And it is Zero who looks at these people with contempt, not Romney. By making people dependent on government hand-outs, he is the architect of keeping people existing just above the poverty line, never aspiring for anything better.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 4:01:36 AM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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It was poorly stated and thus a gaffe. Retirees and those out of work are not lost to obama. What politician in their right mind writes off 47 percent of the vote?

What romney better say is that he has a plan to get americans working again. There are people in the 47 percent not by choice and are there because of obama. He has to get the focus on obama’s screwups and motivate people to his side - not attack them.


16 posted on 09/18/2012 4:06:23 AM PDT by plain talk
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The worst thing that could come from all this is for the Rats to put an ad together with some person saying “I don’t pay taxes and I’m voting for Romney.”

This changes nothing. Intelligent people have already made up their minds and will vote for Romney.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 4:07:41 AM PDT by ILS21R (The time is nigh.)
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Agree with’s Romney’s point but I think there are 2-3 percent who are still the “proud poor” like boxer Jimmie Braddock who took welfare in he Great Depression only until he got work then paid it all vack to th welfare office!


21 posted on 09/18/2012 4:10:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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Our forefathers warned us about this. Their hope was placed in the Senate being the supposed wiseman of the politicians. They would check the "ignorance" of the masses.

That hasn't worked out so well.

23 posted on 09/18/2012 4:15:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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On the one hand, we have Romney decrying the FACT that too many are dependent on government largess.

On the other hand, we have Obama claiming “you didn’t build that...”

Anyone see the hypocrisy here?


29 posted on 09/18/2012 4:34:45 AM PDT by Paisan
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The 47% are the lower class. The 11% are the upper class. The remaining 42% are the middle class? If that is the case, Obama has really shrunk the middle class while expanding the Antie Zetuni and Uncle Obongo class.


30 posted on 09/18/2012 4:35:27 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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I agree with Romney about the numbers and have been saying it all along. Sadly, Obama is going to win because those that are on the Govt dole, ALL VOTE. There are over 46 million people getting food stamps and this Government is running ads to get more people; something in the order of $3 million ad campaign to promote the Food Stamps program.

There are 24% of the population that is not eligible to vote by age, 13% that are non-US that can’t vote (unless they live in Chicago) and the 2008 voter turnout was 57% percent. This adds up to more people in the Obama camp, and too many Americans that just don’t care what happens.

This isn’t a “doom and gloom” post, its simple math.... we are going to lose on Nov. 6th unless there’s some huge October surprise.


32 posted on 09/18/2012 4:36:52 AM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
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I agree with Romney about the numbers and have been saying it all along. Sadly, Obama is going to win because those that are on the Govt dole, ALL VOTE. There are over 46 million people getting food stamps and this Government is running ads to get more people; something in the order of $3 million ad campaign to promote the Food Stamps program.

There are 24% of the population that is not eligible to vote by age, 13% that are non-US that can’t vote (unless they live in Chicago) and the 2008 voter turnout was 57% percent. This adds up to more people in the Obama camp, and too many Americans that just don’t care what happens.

This isn’t a “doom and gloom” post, its simple math.... we are going to lose on Nov. 6th unless there’s some huge October surprise.


33 posted on 09/18/2012 4:36:55 AM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
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Romney was dead right.

Its the fleas vs the dog.


34 posted on 09/18/2012 4:37:25 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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I said this on another Post last night and I say it again today. If “You didn’t build that” didn’t sink Obama, this will not sink Romney. Obama is still alive, in the race and polling even with Romney, even after alllllllll of his boneheaded statements and missteps of the last 4 years. THIS TOO SHALL PASS (IN 2 OR 3 DAYS).


35 posted on 09/18/2012 4:37:25 AM PDT by Cherokeesquaw
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I’m glad Romney said what he did. He could’ve skipped the press conference later to clarify.

I think Romney’s campaign should hire on Greg Gutfeld as a consultant from now ‘til the election. He knows how to put ideas into words that people can understand, and in a interesting way.


54 posted on 09/18/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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That 47% has been lulled into a false sense of security and dependence, because Obama if re-elected will pull the plug on all of it to create a nationwide panic, its the predicted scenario.

Because only by tearing down America and then “fixing” it in a socialistic agenda will his full effect and purpose be done.

Obama and his handlers wanted as much of America dependent, then to pull the rug out, and when they are truly broken like a wild mustang will they pull the Communist wagon.

He gets them hooked, he stops the drug so speak, they panic and the he gives them their fix, but now they lose their will to protest, and they will be converted truly.


56 posted on 09/18/2012 6:25:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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Mitt Romney did not say that the “47%” were dependent on the federal government. He said that people who have little to no skin in the game are more apt to vote for a politician who tells them he will continue those policies.

How many times have we read or heard about “people voting against their best interests”? This is a democrat lie that has been used to snow people into thinking their “best interests” lie in receiving government largesse. The type of individual who believes this apparently is unfamiliar with the fairy tale “The Goose That Laid Golden the Egg”......


64 posted on 09/18/2012 7:39:59 AM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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