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Kaine: 'I Would Be Open to a Proposal to Have Some Minimum Tax Level for Everyone' (Video at Link)
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Posted on 09/20/2012 10:26:22 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: combat_boots

Yes, I referred to some of the taxes everyone pays either directly or indirectly.

No cell phones, AC etc. but the ancient Romans created the concept of “bread and circuses” to keep the urban lumpenproletariate under control. It was necessary there because there was little work for it to do since slave labor was rampant in Roman and it did the majority of labor’s jobs.

In ancient Athens the urban poor was paid to sit on juries (in some cases of hundreds of people) and attend the Assembly. They created havoc in both places. Read “The Wasps” by Aristophanes, a hilarious description of the phenomenon, for a good picture.


81 posted on 09/20/2012 4:58:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: ctdonath2

Is national defense a luxury in your world?


82 posted on 09/20/2012 5:50:03 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: AppyPappy
Is Kaine saying we should make the “no tax” crowd pay some tax?

No. He is saying we should leave all the rotten stratospheric taxes that we have today in place. However, we can still significantly grow the leviathan government by using a Value Add VAT tax on top of all we already have - that would mean that all pay taxes.

83 posted on 09/20/2012 5:57:10 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: bigdaddy45

What did the Founding Fathers have in mind? And how much did it cost?


84 posted on 09/20/2012 5:57:28 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: edcoil

I think they get away with it being constitutional because each bracket of income is charged the same rate. So, for example, everybody’s first $50,000 is charged one rate. But if you make over $50,000, that amount above it is charged the next rate. You still pay the same lower rate on your first $50,000.

Doesn’t mean it’s a good system. A constitutional amendment to make a flat tax is a good idea. Then Obama can’t go around talking about how he’s going to raise taxes “only” on the rich. If he raised taxes, it would have to apply to everybody. Imagine how that would destroy that campaign message, no longer being able to talk about raising taxes unless it had to apply to everybody proportionally.


85 posted on 09/20/2012 6:02:24 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: ctdonath2

The Founding Fathers’ biggest worry were multi-masted sailing ships and indians. If we based national defense on what the Founding Fathers had in mind, we’d just be buying lots of muskets. You good with that?


86 posted on 09/20/2012 9:29:53 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Tzar
Reflation is the standard prescription for recession. And monetary theory claims that the lag in effect from a policy change is too long to help The Disaster this election.

Rush keeps yammering on about this move which does not appear to be ideological but rather panic. He seems utterly unaware that this lag in result exists.

Economics has plenty of econometric studies which accurately predict the sign of movement and often more about the results of policy changes. It is not like chemistry because the human element and choice is more involved in the results of changes. And there are economists whose writings are always of use.

There are also difficulties posed by the sheer comprehensiveness of the subject. What other combines historical analysis, statistics, advanced mathematics, psychology, sociology, logic, even an ability to draw?

88 posted on 09/22/2012 11:52:09 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Tzar

There is a big difference in predicting the future of a stock and predicting what changing the interest rate will do. Or predicting what the impact of a regulation change will do.


90 posted on 09/22/2012 12:07:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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