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Houston officer kills double amputee in wheelchair
AP ^ | 23 Sep 2012 | Staff W. Riter

Posted on 09/23/2012 5:35:03 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy

A Houston police officer shot and killed a one-armed, one-legged man in a wheelchair Saturday inside a group home after police say the double amputee threatened the officer and aggressively waved a metal object that turned out to be a pen.

Police spokeswoman Jodi Silva said the man cornered the officer in his wheelchair and was making threats while trying to stab the officer with the pen. At the time, the officer did not know what the metal object was that the man was waving, Silva said.

She said the man came "within inches to a foot" of the officer and did not follow instructions to calm down and remain still.

"Fearing for his partner's safety and his own safety, he discharged his weapon," Silva told The Associated Press.

Police did not immediately release the name of the man who was killed. They had been called to the home after a caretaker there called and reported that the man in wheelchair was causing a disturbance.

The owner of the group home, John Garcia, told the Houston Chronicle that the man had a history of mental illness and had been living at the house about 18 months. Garcia said the man had told him that he lost a leg above the knee and all of one arm when he was hit by a train.

"He sometimes would go off a bit, but you just ignore it," Garcia told the newspaper.

Silva identified the officer as Matthew Jacob Marin, a five-year veteran of the department. He was immediately placed on three-day administrative leave, which is standard in all shootings involving officers.

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1 posted on 09/23/2012 5:35:10 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Hope he didnt have a dog also.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 5:39:35 AM PDT by bikerman (How will Democrats stand up to terrorism when they can’t even face Fox News?”)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

But — but — he felt threatened. That pen might have been loaded.


3 posted on 09/23/2012 5:44:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Yashcheritsiy

He was a foot away and the cop couldn’t identify that he was waving a pen?


4 posted on 09/23/2012 5:44:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Righteous kill. As long as this skin-head bloused booted multiple murderer goes home, who cared how many double amputees he butchers? It’s only a civilian, and a cripple, at that. No great loss...


5 posted on 09/23/2012 5:46:16 AM PDT by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Left Side of the Bell Curve.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Was the pen mightier than the sword?


6 posted on 09/23/2012 5:47:42 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Yashcheritsiy

After the suspension [vacation] is over, he will be immediately promoted to the rank of at least sergent.


7 posted on 09/23/2012 5:48:59 AM PDT by sport
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To: Yashcheritsiy

When the SHTF, very few Americans will feel that cops are the good guys. Cops are neighborhood bullies and will be seen as such.


8 posted on 09/23/2012 5:49:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Maybe the cop thought he had a pen zip gun.


9 posted on 09/23/2012 5:51:41 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

There is zero doubt how this would end if the shooter wasn’t a cop.


10 posted on 09/23/2012 5:53:36 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Local news says the wheelchair guy “cornered” the cop and made him feel threatened.

I’m sure there are some pretty tough guys in wheelchairs but
the dude had only one arm and one leg and TWO cops couldn’t
get any leverage on him?

Crazed amputee badasses with bic pens will be the death of us all.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 5:53:38 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

This brings tears to my eyes and boiling anger. My sister lives in a group home for retarded adults and some of them have serious emotional and anger problems. I just cannot imagine that any police officer called to a group home for a disturbance would shoot a man in a wheelchair with only one arm and one leg.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 5:55:06 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ClearCase_guy
When the SHTF, the cops will not be the good guys, my FRiend. Who do you think put the Jews in the boxcars? Who rounded up the Soviets that were sent to Siberia? It is the police of the Regime.

Overhere[the U.S.] the police are agents of the State. We[Conservatives,Christians, Veterans]are now considered enemies of said State. But, but, but,... we are not being rounded up and arrested yet. No, but obama is working on issueing Executive Orders to do that. Congress has given him the authority to do so.

13 posted on 09/23/2012 5:57:16 AM PDT by sport
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To: Yashcheritsiy
How old is the dead man?

I didn't click the article, but I envision a lot.

A guy mauled by a train is either a railway worker, a stupid drunk or someone trying to hobo a bit.

Either scenerio, I see the guy to be maybe 30's or so.

How pissed off deranged could a guy be (that hadn't had any or much mental therapy to deal with the loss of what I'm sure the guy considered his life) and especially when the owner of the group home (not known for re-hab) says, "Yeah, he flips out every now and then.


Y'call a doctor for a shot in the arm ... not one in the heart.


Just my tuppence worth.

14 posted on 09/23/2012 5:59:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When the American people cheered at the murder of Terry Schiavo, it meant future killings of this kind.


15 posted on 09/23/2012 5:59:38 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
If you are a crazed and utterly evil murderer-wannabe, join the force.

It's a license to kill.

16 posted on 09/23/2012 6:00:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Theodore R.

drivel


17 posted on 09/23/2012 6:00:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Theodore R.

>> When the American people cheered at the murder of Terry Schiavo, it meant future killings of this kind.

Many were salivating.


18 posted on 09/23/2012 6:03:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SampleMan
Yep! There is now no situation that cannot be made worse by calling the cops.

And at one time in the past, the cops would have handled the situation without shooting the man. But that was then and this is now.

19 posted on 09/23/2012 6:03:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Good Lord, summary execution.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 6:05:32 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Two really good rules of thumb.

1) LEOs often function in the mode of predators, spending their day looking for trouble and conflict, as part of their job, their “prey” being lawbreakers. But with this comes other characteristics that apply to predators. One being that it is a very bad idea to “back one into a corner.”

2) A lot of LEOs just adore Tasers, because guns only have three modes: in the holster, brandished, or being fired as a lethal weapon. But many situations are far more complicated than that, and really do not rise to the level of the use of lethal force, *except* that there is no alternative.


21 posted on 09/23/2012 6:05:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Yashcheritsiy

That just ain’t right.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 6:10:57 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ClearCase_guy

two cops facing up against a pen swinging double amputee in a wheelchair?.......I guess that’s fair odds...:(


23 posted on 09/23/2012 6:12:02 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Betchya the cop votes for Obama...again.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 6:14:21 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

what a chicken sheet


25 posted on 09/23/2012 6:14:43 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

as I have often said don’t call the coppers who are high on steroid rage, unless you want someone hurt or killed


26 posted on 09/23/2012 6:15:34 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The officer didn’t have a mark on him...


27 posted on 09/23/2012 6:16:46 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The murdered man had one arm. Ever try to move a wheelchair with ONE arm? You go around in circles. And which arm was he holding the “weapon” in? Huh? The OTHER arm?


28 posted on 09/23/2012 6:17:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Fascism is wrong even when practiced by the government.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Totally FUBAR response by the police.

I wonder if Officer Matthew Jacob Marin had a taser on his belt as his standard issue? Or if he had already discharged it earlier in the day on some geriatric threat to his authoritia?


29 posted on 09/23/2012 6:17:20 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It all goes back to lawyers. Cops are purposely trained to kill so there’s only one story told in the court room. If this one leg, one armed man survived the John Edwards types would have pushed him in his wheelchair in front of a jury of Democrat-ticks, and been out shopping for Gulfstreams that afternoon.


30 posted on 09/23/2012 6:17:34 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I read the article. The perp had one cop cornered, and the other one that shot feared for his partners life. Based upon this, I would assume the partner was to the side of or behind the wheelchair.

The guy had 1 arm and 1 leg. How difficult would it be to grab the wheelchair and pull it back enough to allow partner to get out of corner?

Keep in mind, the cop cornered did not shoot.

stupid, just plain stupid.

or clueless....


31 posted on 09/23/2012 6:20:37 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Intent to commit a scathing note.


32 posted on 09/23/2012 6:24:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Those who pay no taxes and depend upon government are Government PETS.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I am calling my representative and demanding a national pen registration....

all jokes aside, sad day for those who cared about him....


33 posted on 09/23/2012 6:26:56 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Far from being a foreign policy wonk, I wonder just how do we fix or at least get on the right track our foreign policy after we rid ourselves of this politically driven "foreign policy" team of misfits and ignominious clowns...

Mitt Romney besides having a economy domestic nightmare to try and fix he also has the "fix" our image and geopolitical position in the world...

Personally, I think the way to fix it is a three fold approach:
Cut off ALL funding to any country that harbors Islamic fundamentalist...Don't like America, try feeding your people or filling your Swiss bank accounts with nada..
Close ALL diplomatic consulates or embassies in same country...The USA is the most influential country on the planet...try using our leverage though back channels and see how much you pay for it...
Drill, Drill, Drill... that tells the oil producing countries we will cut you off at the knees...try selling camel dung and sand fleas in ten years...

34 posted on 09/23/2012 6:27:04 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Popman

oops.. posted to wrong thread...sorry


35 posted on 09/23/2012 6:28:26 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: bikerman
First they come for your dogs.

Then they come for your double amputees.

Who's next???

36 posted on 09/23/2012 6:30:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I just cannot imagine that any police officer called to a group home for a disturbance would shoot a man in a wheelchair with only one arm and one leg.

Some cops, that suffer from a deity syndrome, should not be allowed to carry a firearm.


37 posted on 09/23/2012 6:34:01 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: I want the USA back

Exactly — all the officer had to do was move away from him.


38 posted on 09/23/2012 6:34:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: yldstrk
don’t call the coppers who are high on steroid rage, unless you want someone hurt or killed

If your neighbor's dog is barking too much just call 911. The puppy shooters will take care of it. I wonder how many women these days arrange "blue divorces" by purposely driving their husband into a rage then dialing 911.

39 posted on 09/23/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Yashcheritsiy
A one-armed, one-legged guy in a wheelchair "cornered" two cops with a pen... and they waste him?

WTF is wrong with cops nowadays?

40 posted on 09/23/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Hey Matthew Jacob Marin sometime your actions have "Unintended Consequences"...got that?
41 posted on 09/23/2012 6:51:32 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

How does a one-armed man wave a pen, corner an armed LEO and move his wheel-chair in a “threatening” manner?


42 posted on 09/23/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: knarf

You’re absolutely right, the guy in the wheelchair was almost certainly mentally unbalanced, or else he would not have gotten hit by a train. Sitting in his own feces in wheelchair in a group home probably did not improve his disposition. I suppose the cops might have used night sticks or tazers, but I wouldn’t want to second guess them as quickly as most of the posters here.

There are a lot of messy situations in life and we leave it up to the cops to clean a lot of them up. It “behooves” us not to jump to judgments about incidents about which we do not know the facts and did not witness.


43 posted on 09/23/2012 7:17:22 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is neo-lysenkoism.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Yikes...*this* certainly doesn't look good.
44 posted on 09/23/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I would say that an average CCP holder has more restraint when it comes to ‘pulling the trigger’ than today’s LEO- naturally not all, but the ones that get ‘scared’ when a dog snarls at them.
Maybe it is because WE are held to 100% accountability while the ‘average’ LEO has no restraints since he has the ‘law’ behind him.

Of course there are several reasons for the rash of ‘unqualified’ LEO types, ‘equality, affirmative action, unreasonable restrictions/laws etc’.

Give our Military 20 years of drumming the ‘anti-gay, anti-female’ youth out and you(we) will be stuck with a military that is basically run COMPLETELY by pols and do nothings.

When I enlisted at 17 it was to get away from the ‘sissy boys, mothers, sisters etc etc’.

Also our ‘sensitivities’ were harmed when the police used to basically hire former Military types....that corps (police) started going to hell when the ranks were opened to all, regardless of sex/size/etc and then they started requiring college credits.

I just can’t picture ANY police from the 40’s, 50’s 60’s just sitting around and letting a Va Tech or Columbine situation happen, some ‘hero’ (maybe self named) would have stormed the building and tried to end it, not wait for teams of Ninja Shock Troops .... and ‘trained sociologists’ to either talk them down etc....


45 posted on 09/23/2012 7:26:04 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Guy should have had a sword since the pen is mightier. The cop couldn’t tell it was a pen “inches” away? What was the officers name? Magoo??


46 posted on 09/23/2012 7:30:34 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: Lion Den Dan

GMTA - I should have read further down before posting.


47 posted on 09/23/2012 7:31:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: xrmusn

In 1966 when Charles Whitman began shooting people at the U of Texas, there was return fire from LEOs and CIVILIANS within 30 minutes.


48 posted on 09/23/2012 7:33:18 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: AAABEST

“WTF is wrong with cops nowadays?”
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MOST have become pumped-up pigs on steroids trying to impress their team-mates by scaring little old ladies and young girls.

A friend of mine’s son is a jailer and was bragging to us that the night before and I quote....”We ‘got’ to taze a guy and it was so cool”. Not that they ‘had’ to taze a guy.

He’s a fat bloated pig like most of his co-workers.


49 posted on 09/23/2012 7:33:55 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

How big was the pen?

Fountain pens have a nasty point.

/s

glad the yard dog made it out alive.


50 posted on 09/23/2012 7:36:19 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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