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GOP REP. SAYS OBAMA HAS ‘HELPED JUMP START A NEW OTTOMAN EMPIRE’
http://www.theblaze.com ^ | September 23 2012 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 09/23/2012 5:28:35 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) on Friday accused President Barack Obama of ushering in a second Ottoman Empire in the Middle East through his foreign policy.

Speaking on the House floor, Gohmert accused the Obama administration of allowing Iran to influence Iraq by pulling U.S. troops out, and suggested the attacks on U.S. diplomatic missions in the Middle East and North Africa are the result of waning American influence from that decision, The Hill reported.

“Thank you President Barack Hussein Obama. This will be quite a legacy for you,” Gohmert said. “I‘m not one of those who says he’s not a Christian. All I know is that’s between him and God. But what I do know is he has helped jump start a new Ottoman Empire and left our friend and ally Israel so vulnerable in this sea of radicalism that he has helped bring to the surface.”

Gohmert said a recent report showed that approval for the U.S. among those in Muslim countries had slipped from 33 percent under President George W. Bush in 2008 to now just 15 percent under Obama, according to The Hill. A Pew Research Center survey released in June noted that the median approval in Muslim nations for Obama’s policies has declined over the last three years from 34 percent to 15 percent.

“This president is trying to buy affection from people who are bullies, who are radical Islamists, who want to destroy us. You’re not going to get love and affection, you get contempt,” Gohmert said.

Gohmert made a similar reference to a “new Ottoman Empire” in another floor speech earlier this month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJK7QE9YdfQ

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; husseinobama; muslimworld; obamalegacy; sourcetitlenoturl
Duh

OBAMA/SOETORO," In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans.. I WILL STAND WITH THEM should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

1 posted on 09/23/2012 5:28:41 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hehehehehe, gotta love Louie Gohmert.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 5:31:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Para-Ord.45

It’s unfortunate that only a tiny fraction of US public school graduates ever learned what the Ottoman Empire was.


3 posted on 09/23/2012 5:34:56 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) on Friday accused President Barack Obama of ushering in a second Ottoman Empire in the Middle East....”

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Hey Louie, why aren’t you telling the whole truth?

Obama is ushering an Ottoman Empire in the USA and Congress is not doing anything in preventing it.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 5:36:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: Sooth2222

or Che Quevara for that matter...


5 posted on 09/23/2012 5:37:38 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Para-Ord.45; Kevmo; meadsjn
[originally posted 8/3/09]

Kevmo ~ His ego is too big, he wants to be fondly remembered in History

meadsjn ~ I disagree with that assessment. There is plenty of evidence to show that he has a long history of seething hatred toward whites and western civilization.

His actions in office have demonstrated that he fully intends to destroy our free republic and replace it with some form of communist dictatorship.

His health care plan strongly hints that humans will be disposed of at the convenience of HIS government bureacrats.

He doesn't give diddly squat about being "fondly remembered" for anything. He is a monster.

History is written by the victors.

If this covert muslim single handedly brings down "The Great Satan", his praises will be sung in mosques for millennia.

What better write-up, how much more glory could any human hope for?

6 posted on 09/23/2012 5:51:30 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1342 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Now let us pray the GOP doesn’t walk this back to bed, but insteads wakes up to the great deception of America...


7 posted on 09/23/2012 5:54:33 PM PDT by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”


8 posted on 09/23/2012 5:56:59 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Louie Gohmert needs to become our new Speaker!


9 posted on 09/23/2012 6:00:28 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: WellyP

I’m so proud to live in his district. He has virtually no opposition come election day. And no he will not be walking anything back.


10 posted on 09/23/2012 6:08:19 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: Para-Ord.45

That was Obama’s task from the beginning, and some of us saw it.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 6:08:22 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Para-Ord.45

Thanks to Prince Eugene the first ottoman empire started it’s decline Sep. 11, 1697.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 6:13:24 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: Para-Ord.45
Gotta' watch the nomenclature though. The last Persian Empire in the area was called Seleucids before Rome, the Parthian during Rome, and the Sassanid up until the 7th century AD when the Arabs rode out of Petra and whipped them!

The 11th century saw the rise of the Seljuk Turks and they took over the then still borning Islamic Caliphate, and they were followed by the Ottomans.

WW I saw the end of the Ottomans and the final division of all their former holdings into tiny countries just all over the place.

The current Iranian ambition is to resurrect the Sassanid Empire AND take over all the former holdings of the Ottomans not otherwise owned by the Sassanids.

It's actually quite a bit bolder than a mere resurrection of the Ottomans. The only good part to it is that it would put the Shi'ites on top of things and this time they'd probably spend most their time trying to convert or destroy the Sunni.

The Ottoman Empire was the first nation to recognize American independence, and except for their utterly stupid decision to support Germany in WWI, they've been pretty much an American ally or fan all along. We are a long way away from them, and they are far from us, which is probably why America and Turkey have a fairly amicable record. We could use the Turks standing on top the Arabs and the Persians.

13 posted on 09/23/2012 6:18:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Para-Ord.45

I WILL STAND WITH THEM should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
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great point! Obama wrote in his own book,
he would stand with the MUSLIMS, instead of AMERICANS.
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“I‘m not one of those who says he’s not a Christian.
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the Congressman is being diplomatic.
I have no problem saying Obama is NOT a Christian.
simply on his positive for killing babies
that were “accidently” born ALIVE,
during an abortion.
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some of the earliest writings from Christian leaders,
even pre-dating the final collection of the Bible,
STRONGLY condemned abortion, as a great evil.


14 posted on 09/23/2012 6:28:31 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Para-Ord.45

did he mean a new Caliphate instead of a new Ottoman Empire?
I dont think the new arab Islamonazi republics will turn over the reigns of government to Turkey.


15 posted on 09/23/2012 6:29:15 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Para-Ord.45

did he mean a new Caliphate instead of a new Ottoman Empire?
I dont think the new arab Islamonazi republics will turn over the reigns of government to Turkey.


16 posted on 09/23/2012 6:29:15 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I miss Trafficant.


17 posted on 09/23/2012 6:32:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Gingers have no souls.)
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To: muawiyah

“The Ottoman Empire was the first nation to recognize American independence, and except for their utterly stupid decision to support Germany in WWI, they’ve been pretty much an American ally or fan all along.”

The Ottoman Empire is not a nation. While the Ottomans were recognizing American independence, they were wiping out villages across Sub-Saharan Africa for ivory, killing every single adult and taking children for harems and soldiers. Before that they were marauding Greek Islands, Vienna, N. Africa and Spain.

Imperialism left living Africans to tell their tale. Ottomans wiped out African cultures totally forgotten now.

After WW1, Gen. Kemel Attaturk transformed Turkey, banning polygamy, the veil, barriers to women in universities & CHANGING THE ALPHABET TO WESTERN. That is why they prosper without oil.


18 posted on 09/23/2012 6:50:35 PM PDT by bukkdems (Polygamy requires thinning the herd of males, unless territory can be conquered.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Well, a nice ottoman does go well with an empty LaZBoy.


19 posted on 09/23/2012 6:56:18 PM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: bukkdems
yeah, it was a nation ~ with a very large tax farm.

pretty much Obama's plan for America.

Now, about your time line, the Ottoman Empire begins in 1299 and ends in 1918 (for all practical purposes)

Lot of history in that ~ but never once did Ottoman power extend to Spain ~ Souvrn' Italy, but not Spain.

20 posted on 09/23/2012 6:56:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Para-Ord.45; All

I did see something about the Ottoman Empire, and they where much more different than the Caliphates. I think the Congressmen means that a Super Caliphate is being created and that is my gut feeling..


21 posted on 09/23/2012 7:13:06 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“OBAMA/SOETORO,” In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans.. I WILL STAND WITH THEM should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

At least he kept that promise:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/20/state-department-spending-70g-on-pakistan-ads-denouncing-anti-islam-film/


22 posted on 09/23/2012 7:40:24 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Sooth2222

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

Simple history, and their polished turd is in his hut.

Watch how they use oil to keep the middle man on stream to support their point man. Expensive gas? Would kill obama.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Sooth2222
I can't really blame US public school students for not knowing what the Ottoman Empire was. Probably most of them grew up in homes where there were no ottomans.

The Ottoman Empire was oppressive and corrupt, especially in its later centuries and especially towards non-Muslim subjects, but they did a few things well--some fine architecture and bridges, and they introduced coffee to the Viennese. Not exactly on purpose. But if a new caliphate is created, it won't have any redeeming qualities, however trivial.

24 posted on 09/23/2012 8:30:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: hecht

Don’t be so sure. I think it was Beck who quoted the Turkish Prime Minister “Our mosques are our barracks, our minarets our bayonets!”

Scary times, and Gohmert has it 100% right.


25 posted on 09/23/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: KevinDavis

the Ottomans were despotic, but fairly unzealous as far as a caliphate went. in the 18th and 19th centuries they were all about being decadent and smoking the hashish. if they had stuck around we wouldn’t have Salafi radicals clamoring for a caliphate, because the anemic Ottoman Sultan would already be their caliph.


26 posted on 09/23/2012 10:55:46 PM PDT by RightCenter
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To: Para-Ord.45

Zero has helped put in place radical sunni islamist governments throughout the mideast. When moderate Iranians rose up to throw out the mullahs he looked the other way. Israel and Iran will go to war. Iran will be destroyed and Israel hurt. The sunni islamists will pick up the pieces and the caliphate will be restored.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 1:12:37 AM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: KevinDavis
If it's Iran pushing anything they're behind reorganizing the ME and Near East as a Persian Empire. If it's the Arabs, they are after a Caliphate (their term for the same thing only it's looser with more warlords 'cause that's what they do). If it's the Turks they want a tax farm so they call it an empire but move the capital to wherever they are!

Each of these groups assumes it is superior to the others and of greater worth. Right in the middle there are the Kurds ~ Salaldin took over the Empire after the Turks had softened it up subtantially. He was a Kurd yet he did nothing for his peeps ~ just left them hanging in the breeze.

28 posted on 09/24/2012 5:16:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

——they are after a Caliphate——

You assume Arab homogeneity that doesn’t actually exist.

The real Arab power is more concerned with a growing commercial empire than a religious empire. The capital is in Dubai but the financial resources are distributed throughout the Gulf .

The others you mentioned covet that power and money and influence


29 posted on 09/24/2012 5:23:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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