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GOP REP. SAYS OBAMA HAS ‘HELPED JUMP START A NEW OTTOMAN EMPIRE’
http://www.theblaze.com ^ | September 23 2012 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 09/23/2012 5:28:35 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

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I did see something about the Ottoman Empire, and they where much more different than the Caliphates. I think the Congressmen means that a Super Caliphate is being created and that is my gut feeling..


21 posted on 09/23/2012 7:13:06 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“OBAMA/SOETORO,” In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans.. I WILL STAND WITH THEM should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

At least he kept that promise:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/20/state-department-spending-70g-on-pakistan-ads-denouncing-anti-islam-film/


22 posted on 09/23/2012 7:40:24 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Sooth2222

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

Simple history, and their polished turd is in his hut.

Watch how they use oil to keep the middle man on stream to support their point man. Expensive gas? Would kill obama.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Sooth2222
I can't really blame US public school students for not knowing what the Ottoman Empire was. Probably most of them grew up in homes where there were no ottomans.

The Ottoman Empire was oppressive and corrupt, especially in its later centuries and especially towards non-Muslim subjects, but they did a few things well--some fine architecture and bridges, and they introduced coffee to the Viennese. Not exactly on purpose. But if a new caliphate is created, it won't have any redeeming qualities, however trivial.

24 posted on 09/23/2012 8:30:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: hecht

Don’t be so sure. I think it was Beck who quoted the Turkish Prime Minister “Our mosques are our barracks, our minarets our bayonets!”

Scary times, and Gohmert has it 100% right.


25 posted on 09/23/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: KevinDavis

the Ottomans were despotic, but fairly unzealous as far as a caliphate went. in the 18th and 19th centuries they were all about being decadent and smoking the hashish. if they had stuck around we wouldn’t have Salafi radicals clamoring for a caliphate, because the anemic Ottoman Sultan would already be their caliph.


26 posted on 09/23/2012 10:55:46 PM PDT by RightCenter
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Zero has helped put in place radical sunni islamist governments throughout the mideast. When moderate Iranians rose up to throw out the mullahs he looked the other way. Israel and Iran will go to war. Iran will be destroyed and Israel hurt. The sunni islamists will pick up the pieces and the caliphate will be restored.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 1:12:37 AM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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If it's Iran pushing anything they're behind reorganizing the ME and Near East as a Persian Empire. If it's the Arabs, they are after a Caliphate (their term for the same thing only it's looser with more warlords 'cause that's what they do). If it's the Turks they want a tax farm so they call it an empire but move the capital to wherever they are!

Each of these groups assumes it is superior to the others and of greater worth. Right in the middle there are the Kurds ~ Salaldin took over the Empire after the Turks had softened it up subtantially. He was a Kurd yet he did nothing for his peeps ~ just left them hanging in the breeze.

28 posted on 09/24/2012 5:16:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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——they are after a Caliphate——

You assume Arab homogeneity that doesn’t actually exist.

The real Arab power is more concerned with a growing commercial empire than a religious empire. The capital is in Dubai but the financial resources are distributed throughout the Gulf .

The others you mentioned covet that power and money and influence


29 posted on 09/24/2012 5:23:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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