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Nation’s children push back against Michelle Obama-backed school lunch regs
The Daily Caller ^ | September 22, 2012 | Caroline May

Posted on 09/23/2012 7:12:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: DH
We even played football, baseball and other “dangerous” games without approved protective gear!

I rode my single speed, coaster brake Sears tank-model bicycle all over the county, up hill and down dale, miles from home...and all WITHOUT A HELMET!!

Amazing that any of us lived to grow up, innit?

161 posted on 09/25/2012 2:25:19 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Uncle Chip
I'm sorry but Godwin's Law has been imposed upon us all not by elected representatives but by fiat

"Deem and pass".

162 posted on 09/25/2012 2:41:14 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What’s really sad about all of this is the nation’s children actually think Michelle gives a rat’s azz about what they think! They are pawns on her chessboard and she doesn’t give two shitza about how they feel on any thing. She is the QUEEEN. Got it?!!


163 posted on 09/25/2012 2:41:54 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: left that other site; All

119 posted on Mon Sep 24 2012 20:56:50 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by left that other site: “I seem to remember (correct me if I am wrong) that the evil planners of Auschwitz had calculated their prisoners to 900 calories a day.”

You may well be right, and I agree that we have a major problem with federal rules for the school lunch program. I see it firsthand. In 15 minutes, a school board meeting will start in which the board will likely get another beginning-of-the-year report about how the new lunch guidelines are resulting in hungry kids and frustrated school cafeteria workers who see kids throwing food in the trash while complaining they have “nothing to eat.”

Some of that is laziness, but some of it involves legitimate complaints.

However, a few qualifications are in order.

First, the amount of food eaten at **LUNCH** is only one meal. Nobody is suggesting that kids get less than 900 calories per day. Giving a child huge amounts of calories during lunch may have the effect of damaging parental efforts to teach good eating habits at home if the child is too full to eat dinner or avoids eating breakfast because the school will give him too much food at lunch.

Second, with the exception of athletes and people who have after-school jobs that involve manual labor, most of our school students are essentially sedentary. The calorie requirements for a farm kid fifty or a hundred years ago who got up early before school to manually milk the cows are not those of the typical modern American child. We do have issues with parents who pressure their children to eat far too much food because it is the amount of food they (or their parents) ate growing up, and then wonder why their kids blow up like balloons.

Third, just because a child says he’s hungry doesn’t always mean the child actually needs food — I know tons of grossly obese poor people on food stamps who claim to be constantly hungry and eat food for which other people worked because their parents don’t care. After all, why should they? It’s not like mom and dad are paying for the food. The worst part is they may take a whole plateful of food and throw half of it out because they aren’t paying for it.

As much as I hate to say it, Michelle Obama is right that we have a serious and growing obesity problem in America. Most Americans eat far more food than they should be eating for their activity level. Furthermore, Michelle Obama is right that what happens in elementary, middle, and high school will establish habits that persist for the rest of many children’s lives.

The bottom line, however, is that identifying the problem is not the same as identifying the solution. This is a parent issue, not a school issue.

Even apart from the principle of parental authority, there is a practical issue that each child had different caloric needs based on activity levels and metabolism, and the government not only shouldn’t be trying to impose a one-size-fits-all rule, it isn’t **ABLE** to do do effectively.

Some problems must be handled at the national level, and providing for the common defense is one of those problems. Most problems, however, are better handled at the local level by people who know their communities. Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government a role in this issue. Not only are some problems best handled at the local level, in this case, it isn’t a problem in which the civil government should be involved at all. This problem is up to parents, not school officials, to solve.


164 posted on 09/25/2012 4:28:10 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: mom4melody; pops88
152 posted on Tue Sep 25 2012 10:52:14 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by mom4melody: “We use Pack-it lunch boxes. They are frozen overnight and remain cold for most of the school day.”

That sounds like a good solution. If the food remains cold, that's what counts.

135 posted on Tue Sep 25 2012 02:35:46 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by pops88: “My daughter had a year of a school day being from 5:30 am- 4:00 pm thanks to being in a special program. I worried a bit about refrigeration as an RN, then had the revelation that a lot of what we’re told by the USDA is nanny state crap and the chance of her getting ill was extremely unlikely, especially since her meat sandwich was eaten at lunch. It wasn’t baking out in the sun and was pretty well insulated in her backpack or locker. I never packed her tuna fish salad though.”

Again, you're the mom and it's not my place to make decisions in your home — especially since you're an RN.

In my school growing up with no air conditioning and high temperatures in the locker room area where lunches were stored, my meat sandwiches and hard-boiled eggs routinely turned slimy and tasted bad, especially if mayonnaise rather than mustard was used. I have little doubt that at least some of my “tummyaches” and diarrhea and occasional vomiting were due to food poisoning. That was long ago and far away; today someone would have stopped my parents from sending unsafe lunches. There are risks to brown-bagging, but I think it's become clear that government involvement has exchanged one set of problems for a much worse set.

165 posted on 09/25/2012 4:59:30 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Cloverfarm

I too have been packing far more lunches this year. Our school lunches (Northern CA) are $3.00 and children are required to get milk or water and a vegetable before they choose their entree. My 5’1” 9 year old weighs just 55lbs and was constantly hungry during the day— and he was eating EVERYTHING they put on his plate.


166 posted on 09/25/2012 5:25:23 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: Vigilanteman
A few months ago, we were continuously getting advertising on the radio telling what proper sized food servings were. Chicken: about the size of a deck of cards. Mashed potatoes: about the size of a computer mouse. I thought the one-size-fits all announcements were stupid and haven't heard them lately. Anybody else?

This was on the Clear Channel station, SW Pennsylvania market.


I'm glad I graduated HS in 1985. BTW, you must be talking about WPGB, 104.7 FM, I remember those commercials too. I thought, "boy, those portions are so small." I live near Pittsburgh.
167 posted on 09/25/2012 5:48:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: darrellmaurina

“Again, you’re the mom and it’s not my place to make decisions in your home — especially since you’re an RN.

In my school growing up with no air conditioning and high temperatures in the locker room area where lunches were stored, my meat sandwiches and hard-boiled eggs routinely turned slimy and tasted bad, especially if mayonnaise rather than mustard was used.”

I was very thoughtful about it and am cognizant of food safety. Mayonnaise is preserved with vinegar. As kid, I remember when delis let it sit out on the table all day. Yes, the consistency changes, but it shouldn’t give you food poisoning. Egg products without a preservative can cause food poisoning sitting out for a relatively short time. When meat and cheese come out of a refrigerator cold for a sandwich, go into a back pack, then into a locker in a school that’s got air conditioning (we live in the desert), a sandwich isn’t going to go bad in just a few hours.

Just like the stupid, new lunch guidelines are one size fits all, so are the USDA guidelines. “Don’t eat it after x number of hours” doesn’t take into consideration temperature and conditions. I never bought fresh meat when I lived in the Philippines and in Tonga only from the German butcher with refrigeration. My husband and I had practically an hour conversation about a month ago about how long he could safely let a steak sit in a hotel fridge, or out without refrigeration and still eat it. There are so many variables- was it warm and never refrigerated? What’s the temperature of the hotel room? How many days has it been refrigerated? etc. The USDA says 3 hours, but if I leave a roast out 6 hours, take a slice and nuke it, I doubt I’ll get sick. Would I eat it cold? No. Chicken and fish are a different story. With them there is the 3 day rule, but in my house they don’t make it past day 2 1/2. From a nursing class on surviving nuclear warfare and length of meat edibility- pork roast lasts the longest, second is beef and chicken...not so much. My daughters lunches were ham sandwiches. LOL.


168 posted on 09/25/2012 5:55:59 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Nowhere Man
Yes, WPGB, 104.7 FM. It is the main channel I listen to on my drives, but not the only one. Sometimes Savage is off his meds or I just feel like listening to music, 98.3 FM and others. The same ad was on those channels.

I wonder if the Gubmint was singling out us in the Burgh because we have that famous Pirmanti Brothers sandwich with the fries included.

169 posted on 09/25/2012 7:04:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What a sick toilet this nation has become. I spent many years packing three big, healthy lunches each night for my kids to take to school. How did things get to the point where a scumbag like Michelle Ubama matters at all when it comes to kids’ lunches?


170 posted on 09/25/2012 7:10:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Damn. The day’s gonna come when kids pine for the sort of school lunches I thought were mediocre, such as mashed potatoes with hamburger gravy.


171 posted on 09/25/2012 11:28:19 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You know, if they don’t respect our right to choose what we wish to eat they don’t respect our right to choose our leaders.


172 posted on 09/25/2012 11:51:22 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

173 posted on 09/26/2012 7:28:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ugh!

Unfortunately that picture is too close to reality for comfort.


174 posted on 09/27/2012 7:25:18 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Send your children to government schools, this is the type of thing you have to accept.


175 posted on 09/30/2012 4:55:47 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (65 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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