Skip to comments.Why Asian Airlines Reign Supreme
Posted on 09/26/2012 10:39:33 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
Its no secret that American carriers lag far behind their Asian counterparts when it comes to service and amenities. None of the big three U.S. airlines Delta Airlines, United Airlines and American Airlines cracked the top 50 in airline consultancy Skytraxs annual poll of the worlds best airlines, which was released this summer.
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I am sure it has nothing to do with the hot asian chicks that are stewardesses on those airlines :)
The cute gals don’t hurt, but the service is 10 times better than ours. Malaysia Airlines is top notch.
I thought the same, and your observation is spot on. American carriers have stewardesses that look no better than the cafeteria ladies at my elementary school growing up. But the writer of this article is a woman, so I’m guessing there’s more to the story than the fuggly flight attendants.
I fly a lot and it’s almost all old fat ladies and gay men on American airlines these days.
There was a time that going on a flight on a US airline was like going to hooters.
It does. The same attitudes toward the work that make flying domestic airlines so unpleasant are present in the corporate workplace, as well.
A central tenet of feminism is that submitting to requests results in the woman LOSING FACE —the exact opposite of many parts os Asia.
The USA will have to learn to compete in other ways - they will never match the Asian airlines in that regard! Chinese airlines, for example, recruit girls from their sports universities or entertainment groups. For example, gymnasts who are too tall, or won't make it to the Olympics. Once they turn 30 years old, they are fired or moved into back-office jobs.
When you flew the old Northwest out of MSP, you just knew the widest thing coming down the aisle wasn't the beverage cart.
Let me list reasons -
-Arrogant ground staff
-In-plane food just disgusting
-Lacks inside entertainment
-Arrogant in flight staff
The story makes a couple of sensible points. The Asian carriers tend to have newer fleets, due to rapid growth driven by the region’s booming economy. And they don’t have the U.S. carriers’ legacy issues. Seems about right to me, and it suggests that quality will tend to rebalance over time.
Personally, I try to avoid any flight on an Airbus and fly Boeing whenever possible. I did get a kick out of Cathay Pacific the first time I flew it; the cabin crew lined up at intervals in the center aisle, and bowed to the customers as they were introduced. This should be written into the labor contracts for U.S. carriers the next time they’re renegotiated.
When the asian airlines are unionized they will look like ours in 10 years.....maybe without all the fags
A friend is was a 777 pilot for United. He left United and went with KAL. He said the difference is like night and day. United treated its employees the same way it treats its customers: Like cattle.
He said KAL treats its people like royalty.
Explains why the US lines are having problems.
A friend was a 777 pilot for United. He left United and went with KAL. He said the difference is like night and day. United treated its employees the same way it treats its customers: Like cattle.
He said KAL treats its people like royalty.
Explains why the US lines are having problems.
Feminism, which makes gay men and fat, ugly old women the norm vs. hot chicks
I remember “dating” a few flight attendants back in the 80’s and 90’s when I was in my 20-30’s...
There wasn’t a lot of chit-chat, in fact, I nearly pulled off the mile-high club once...with a sorority girl I met on Spring Break...
Oh, the old days....
I don’t doubt that is true. I also imagine that KAL makes money while the U.S. carriers are forever on the edge. That translates into the bean counters cutting corners and jerking around the employees. Then throw in the unions to further poison the well, and it makes for a mess.
As for those "beautiful stewardesses" well Korean official standards of female beauty are pretty strange to this extreme appreciator of Asian Women and it is those standards that get Korean stewardesses selected. Out of deference to their
highsuperb quality as staff I will not say more about it.
Not only are American stewardesses. . .ooops. . .”flight attendants” old and ugly, they are rude and nasty as well.
On United if either of two of the stewardi were in the aisle there was no getting past them. United is the only place where one must purchase individually wrapped peanuts- well no, but the service and niggardliness immediately suggest such lines.
United staff resent passengers because they are the necessity for the staff to be able to go to neat places and wear snazzy uniforms. They would prefer to load the passengers on pallets with forklifts and it all shows in the cabin.
Are Asian airlines unionized?
I used to work for a Japanese company. All of the Japanese people told me that Singapore Airlines is the best.
In the best carrier, even in first class, the passenger is treated like poop. Passngers have devolved to subways stinkfest. What is it with fat, and I do mean FAT, passengers that feel their obesity is a licence for loud rudness. (not that thin rude people have any excuse)
Instead of trying to improve, we are stuck with air-hag and “what the hell do you want” service.
PS for an option $25 service fee you may sit in our smile section where the staff is guarnteed to smile at least TWICE!
I have flown practically every Asian airline and most American airlines and there is no comparison.
Asian airports are far superior to our also.
Ironically enough, I think it has to do with the fact that most Asian airlines are government owned, so there is a point of national pride in their airlines; also, the government bureaucrats who fly their airlines love the perks and supplication that they get from flying their own airlines, and there is no political correctness where you have to deal with the feminist and union lobbies who force the airlines to hire ugly and incompetent people against their will.
Over-all, I think it mostly has to do with national pride and Asian people are big on face and see airlines as an introduction to their culture whereas the corporate hacks who own our airlines only care about the bottom line and the unions have no pride in serving their customers.
This is true for most better ship cruise lines as well. Most of their wait staffs are brought in from Europe (many from eastern Europe). These are, IMHO, people who understand that their job IS to provide a service to their customers (diners). Furthermore, they don't think it beneath themselves to do this, and are willing to work much harder than a comparable US waiter.
During a segment of the CNBC documentary “A day in the life of American Airlines” they spoke with a women who was the head of their flight attendants union(or something). Behind her, on the wall of her office, was a big National Organization for Women poster...largely an organization/movement that was “hijacked” by the feminazi/LGBT movement years ago. Perhaps that speaks volumes to the attitudes/lifestyles of many(not all)who currently make up that occupation, particularly on U.S. carriers.
They're even fatter than the aisle cart, mostly. I hate the aisle seats on airplanes, when every time that drink/food cart goes by I have Mabel or Shan'NayNay's giant fat ass bashing into my elbow and I have to sit with my arms locked foward like I'm diving into a pool until she finally gets by.
You fly on Dutch KLM to Europe, and the Euro girls are just hotter than hell. You fly back FROM Europe to the United States on an American carrier, and there's big old Luwanda there to grimace at you as you board the plane.
Flying coach on an American carrier sucks and will never get better, only worse. I'm sure Obama will bail them out by printing up trillions pretty soon.
The only solution is to fly first class anywhere, preferably on a non-American carrier. Even first class on an American carrier still kinda sucks.
The widespread policy of charging for checked bags means that customers try to bring everything short of steamer trunks for carry on. This results in delays at TSA security and in getting the passengers loaded. Now some airlines are charging for carry on bags. All these fees and the flight is little better than traveling in a cattle car.
Even if there is a hot us airline stewardess, you wonder how she can do her job with that broomstick shoved up her....
The decline is in direct inverse to the rise of our incomprehensible laws and regulations, massive law suites, convoluted unions structure and contracts not to forget the crony political kickbacks.
So if one huge sector of the economy is down the other small one is up,up ,up.
She said one of the interviewers openly admitted that they favored gay men. Competition was really tough in a crappy economy. A ton of the candidates were there from other airlines. She came home with some hope because about two thirds of the candidates were given their "sorry" excuse at the interview. She got hers by way of a phone call a week later.
During the 14 years I lived in Japan, I worked with a lot of former airline attendants in a business setting. They don't look at it as a lifelong career over there. They look at it as a great place to work and travel until (a)they get married in their late 20's or early 30's or (b)a steppingstone into business where the skills they learned are highly marketable to businesses losing other women in that age group to their child bearing years.
“A friend is was a 777 pilot for United. He left United and went with KAL. He said the difference is like night and day. United treated its employees the same way it treats its customers: Like cattle.”
In any service business, the way a company treats their employees is directly reflected in how the employees treat their customers. I actually feel sorry for United employees as you can tell that they are treated like utter crap by management. The same for Home Depot, which is even worse. Still. I won’t even go in a Home Depot any more things are so bad there.
that statement brings to mind my favorite line from the movie "Hangover." . . . "Uh . . . That ain't Gonna Happen"
Asia has a whole different concept of "union" and work rules. Starting with the idea of age, weight and appearance restrictions.
Regarding "lady boys" as they are referred to here in Thailand and most parts of Southeast Asia . . . . the numbers here in the cabin make United Airlines and the United States look like a "straight only" club.
That didn't happen.
I said, "Excuse me. I didn't receive a meal."
The flight attendant's eyes went wide, real wide, like she was about to pounce. She said, "That's because you didn't . . . ." She got a hold of herself and simply apologized and handed me my crummy meal.
So ready to blame the customer. So ready to fight.
What keeps US carriers in the international pax hauling business is our safety record (thanks to our pilots, training departments, and maintenance personnel). Period.
(Retired UAL 767 Captain)
I don't think the story said whether they were male or female. The passengers finally got to their destination three hours late.
I miss Midwest Express, which later became Midwest airlines, and finally taken over by Frontier airlines.
Midwest express was GREAT! Great service, and all their seats were wide and roomy, with plenty of legroom. When they went to Midwest Airlines, they introduced more “standard seating,” i.e. cramped.
I haven’t flown on Frontier.
I think about that every time I board a plane. Am I kidding myself, though, when I think everyone on the flight deck is former Air Force or Navy? I console myself with that belief. God help us if it's no longer the case.
One other thing... It's been my experience that when dealing with union workers, they do NOT see the people who sign their paychecks as their employers. They most often see the union as their employer, and look antagonistically at the company for which they work. So why wouldn't they feel the same way for their customers.