Hot 100 Mark [Cultural Degeneration]"
Posted on 09/27/2012 6:57:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
... when it comes to the artist with the most Billboard Hot 100 hits, Elvis Presley**'s longstanding record total gives way to a new stats king: Lil Wayne**.
As he debuts as a featured artist (with Chris Brown**, Tyga** and Wiz Khalifa**) on Game**'s aptly titled "Celebration" at No. 82, the superstar rapper rewrites the mark for the most Hot 100 chart visits. Now with 109 entries, Weezy passes Elvis Presley, who totaled 108 between the chart's 1958 launch and 2003.
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I hope you're not claiming that thought process is coherent.
And most here I’m sure love the sounds of Motown, Philly, numerous Black Doo Wop groups, Sam Cooke, etc, etc. So it’s not a Black vs White thing. It’s good vs garbage. Most older Blacks would agree. They hate Rap too.
Without cheating and doing a Google search, I can only think of one--"I Hope You Dance" by Lee Ann Womack (2001). However, I can probably name 30 songs from 1930 off the top of my head.
I have never considered rap to be singing or music
What you deem "high quality", most here deem as trash. However, there may a couple of rap sounds I actually like, mainly from the early days. "Planet Rock" (by Soul Sonic Force?), one example.
Gangnam Style?
Not a very good analogy.
Most hip hop is not radical experimentalist noise - that would be more akin to the challenging music of artists like Merzbow or John Zorn.
The music on most hip hop tracks is composed in major and minor keys on traditional scales, using mostly the usual electric instruments (and also synthesizers like 808s and 303s). 90% of hip hop tracks feature hooks and choruses sung by vocalists in the traditional R&B vein.
What percentage of Rap music would you categorize as "low quality". I would say, approximately 99%. Most of the tracks are so similiar you can hardly tell the difference between them. There is very little imagination involved. Most of the lyrics are horribly offensive, at least to normal/decent folks.
Elvis died 35 years ago, and he still has a devoted following.
How many people will be listening to Lil Wayne 35 years from today?
What I deem to be the better hip hop tracks may be deemed "trash" by most FReepers - but that is a meaningless point, because most FReepers have never listened to the tracks in question and therefore have no experience on which to ground their opinion
Like most popular "rock" and pop performers (Nickelback, Lady Gaga, etc.), the most popular hip hop performers - like Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy, Kanye West (as an MC), David Banner, etc. - are generally the least impressive artists the genre has to offer.
Not a very good analogy.
It's a PERFECT analogy.
Most hip hop is not radical experimentalist noise.
Whatever the hell it is, it's awful, damn near all of it.
I remain in agreement with Wynton Marsalis that rap is music reduced to a point where it is not music anymore. It's something. It's a cultural phenomenon. It's what it is. It is itself. I just don't consider it music. And I am content to live with my prejudices and misconceptions on the subject.
I find it hysterical to get on different threads where young people start evaluating different crappers er rappers as to their musical greatness. I have to hold back and cease from being an old fogey balloon puncturer by telling them that it's all witless garbage. I'm not even much of an Elvis fan, but the difference in being able to sing songs like Elvis and rhyme insipid, obscene lyrics to a monotonous beat is galactic-sized. It defines our degraded culture that rappers are considered in any way musically talented.
Garbage, gutter music defines the bulk of cRAP.
99% of the music in all genres is low quality. Truly creative individuals doing new and interesting things in tasteful ways are an absolute rarity in every genre.
For every Who or Led Zeppelin or The Band there were ten thousand no-talent hacks playing in bars banging out listless, uninspired, warmed-over blues riffs.
Most of the tracks are so similiar you can hardly tell the difference between them.
That is the case with all genres. If you are not a fan of blues rock, all blues rock songs sound the same. If you are not a fan all reggae sounds the same.
There is very little imagination involved.
Again, for 99% of the music in any genre there is little imagination involved. It takes no imagination at all to write a three-chord guitar line in 4/4 time, and that accounts for about 99% of rock songs.
Most of the lyrics are horribly offensive, at least to normal/decent folks.
Most of the lyrics are about three topics: "I am great at performing this music", "I am a guy you do not want to mess with", "All women want me and I regularly oblige them."
These are three common themes of blues songs and rock songs as well.
Some of the lyrics, like many rock lyrics, get get extremely offensive.
But mostly the only way the themes are distinguishable from rock is that there are more swear words.
“Wayne-king” was a play on words, and describes something that you’re not allowed to say on TV in England. :)
I’m not crying about Elvis. I’m crying about how modern “music” is so pathetically awful. I guarantee you, when you’re in your fifties and sixties, Lil Wayne and all the other no-talent clowns won’t seem so great. Maybe before that.
Epithets are not analysis. Your argument is lacking.
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