You can’t have an honest debate with a liberal because they always bring their own set of “facts”.
If you can’t stipulate what the truth is you just end up arguing about what’s the truth and what isn’t. You never can progress beyond that argument. At the end of the day nothing ever gets settled and you realize you’ve wasted a portion of your life arguing with an intransigent idiot.
It is remarkable, their ability to live inside their own fantasy land ;-)