The MSM report:
Posted on 09/30/2012 11:58:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Obama did the best he could. Nobody could have done better.
He needs for more years to get it right. /s
Secret Fast and Furious Tapes Spring a Watergate-Sized Leak
9-21-2011
When the Watergate break-ins took place in 1972, President Richard Nixon knew nothing about them. But once he found out, he acted quickly to keep them secret, and it was his role in the cover-up that eventually led to his resignation in August 1974. Excerpts of recorded conversations between figures in the Operation Fast and Furious U.S.-Mexico gunrunning scheme are becoming ominously reminiscent of the 1970s watershed event in American politics.
In the historically monumental Watergate scandal, Nixon’s role in the cover-up was verified when he handed over personal tape recordings of conversations he’d had in the Oval Office on the subject.
That was 1974, and this is 2011, and in an eerie twist of fate, another batch of recordings has turned up that might reveal more about Fast and Furious than the current administration wants anyone to know: In fact, it might create more of a storm than Obama & Co. can weather.
The recordings, which seem to have been made in March 2011, are of conversations between Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Ariz., and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) agent Hope McAllister. Lone Wolf was one of the gun stores used for Fast and Furious sales to straw purchasers.
Although the recordings have been turned over to congressional investigators and the Inspector General, excerpts that were released to the public make it sound like the gun dealer was extremely concerned that news of Fast and Furious was going to reach a House member or senator who would take action on it.
Howard’s concern arose from a March 9 letter from Rep. Lamar Smith (R.-Tex.) and other members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, demanding that Attorney General Eric Holder come clean about Fast and Furious. The House committee had been spurred into action by the testimony of ATF whistle-blower John Dodson.
Of the four excerpts released to the public, the first one best demonstrates the angst of those involved in the operation and the necessity for everyone, including Holder, to be sure their stories matched up:
HOWARD: “[Dodson’s] more toxic than you realize. I can tell you because I asked him, ‘How much of this f—–g file did you release?’ ”
McALLISTER: “Mmm hmm.”
HOWARD: “He said basically the underlying case file. I said, ‘Okay, who’d you release it to? F—–g [Sen.] Patrick Leahy!’ Okay? Wasn’t just [Sen. Chuck] Grassley, it was Leahy, alright? Leahy, as we both know, has adjourned this inquiry right now, okay, with no plans to reconvene it. So your people were successful to that end.” (Italics added.)
McALLISTER: “Right.”
HOWARD: “Obviously that’s good. However these idiots from …”
McALLISTER: “… The House?”
HOWARD: “Yeah, and that I don’t know. What is troublesome with this [is] I expected [Rep.] Darrell Issa’s signature to be on this [but] it wasn’t. He’s your biggest thorn. He hates Holder.”
McALLISTER: “Yeah. Where’s he out of?”
HOWARD: “Darrell Issa?”
McALLISTER: “California.”
HOWARD: “Lamar Smith, you know’s, out of Texas, I don’t know. Holder has to respond to this tomorrow.”
McALLISTER: “Yeah, he’s gonna respond.”
HOWARD: “I know he is. And I assure you the media isn’t gonna like his response, because basically it’s gonna mirror what he’s told Grassley.”
McALLISTER: “Yeah.”
HOWARD: “He can’t deviate.” (Italics added.)
McALLISTER: “Well if, I mean, I’ve seen a rough copy of what our U.S. attorney here has sent up. Whether or not he has the balls to actually use it or not, I doubt it. But I mean, it’s pretty aggressive. The way I see it, our local U.S. attorney is extremely aggressive. [But] when it gets to D.C. …”
HOWARD: “Who, [Assistant U.S. Attorney] Emory [Hurley]?”
McALLISTER: “No, the U.S. attorney.”
HOWARD: “Burke, yeah, used to work under Clinton. …Talking about [Dennis] Burke?”
McALLISTER: “Mmm hmm.”
HOWARD: “Yeah, well …”
McALLISTER: “But the problem is, once it gets to D.C., it just gets … well, you know.”
HOWARD: “Discombobulated—that’s a good term for it. Yeah, I get that.”
Even from a cold transcription, it’s evident that Howard is as nervous as a cat about Fast and Furious becoming public knowledge. It’s also evident that McAllister is confident of how U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke had handled things, but not very confident about how things will go once everything is shifted to D.C. It is important to note that Burke was the one who tried to cover up the ties between the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and Fast and Furious. He retired last month without facing any criminal prosecution for his role in the mess.
Interesting too, is that as Howard wraps up the first excerpt of the recordings, it appears he understood how widespread the federal involvement in Fast and Furious had been. He knew that it wasn’t just the ATF, but the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the FBI too:
HOWARD: “Let me tell you, you got more people out there now talking about this f—–g thing than anything I’ve ever seen. … People are not shutting the hell up … and that goes from DHS to f—–g FBI to everybody. I’m hearing it hypothetically on every fringe.”
Judging from the tenor of these recordings, particularly the consternation on the part of Howard, these excerpts may only scratch the surface of the immensity of the crimes hidden behind the door marked Fast and Furious.
http://www.humanevents.com/2011/09/21/secret-fast-and-furious-tapes-spring-a-watergatesized-leak/
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I’m going nuts trying to download the spanish videos. Nothing works well. The YTD downloader does not work with the site. The orbit downloader does not work at all. The FoxReal youtube flv downloader worked but it has to use its own built in browser and after a while the video would not que up on it but worked on Chrome and Firefox. Then the Firefox download helper only wanted to download the ads before the videos played on FF. And the dumb real player plugin to download video no longer works with my browsers. Univision is making it extra hard to download the videos. And so I downloaded yet another program called got video but it needs a direct link which it can’t find on its own so the url was not enough. So I only have 3 of about 6 or 7 videos online from the show downloaded. My plan was to do what a youtube video suggested to subtitle it in english. But I can’t even download the videos to upload.
Frustrating.
Great post. Thank you.
Link also at "Blaze" story: Here Are 5 Things You Didn’t Know About Operation Fast and Furious
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That part of this whole fustercluck is politically significant. The press may take a while, but just like the Anthony Weiner scandal, there are a few journalists out there who will eventually sink their teeth into this.
The MSM report:
Romney needs to mention this, and to say that it’s too bad our media don’t report this: Obamas Fast and Furious killed Mexican students. Just to try and track dangerous weapons.
The entire administration is full of crooks and liars.
People should hang for this. They would if we had a real DOJ.
“Just to try and track dangerous weapons”
But they made no effort to track them. They just let them go into Mexico by the hundreds and that was the end of their involvement.
Nobody can convince me it wasn’t deliberate.
In the video it's reported that they decided not to track them, but to just let them turn up at crime scenes (that would be their "tracking" system).
Romney needs an aggressive statement on this issue instanter. An ad running on Spanish speaking radio would help.
Millions of Latino Americans watch Univision. The Dems are going to have to do damage control because Obama will lose latino votes over this issue
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