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DAILY DOOM ANTIDOTE: Ten Things to Know About Denver Debate Last Night
HIllbuzz ^ | 10/4/2012 | Kevin Dujan

Posted on 10/04/2012 7:32:26 AM PDT by RummyChick

10. Obama was injected with amphetamines or something before the debate and they wore off about 20 minutes in. Here in Chicago, word on the street for the last month has been that Valerie Jarrett was specifically tasked with getting Obama off coke and other drugs before the debates so that he would not embarrass himself on stage for an hour and a half. So, word is that Obama’s been detoxing since at least September. This explains how haggard he’s looked and how prickly he’s acted for a while now…it’s what addicts look and act like when they’re cut off from their drugs. Remember that a President can have whatever drugs he wants. The Secret Service are not there to keep the president from breaking the law, they are just there to keep him alive. Obama’s main drug suppliers are the junior staffers who work in the White House who go to Lafayette Park and buy him whatever he wants…and he also gets special deliveries from his friend Bobby Titcombe in Hawaii, who brings him “fish and poi” to the White House (that’s Hawaiian slang for “weed and coke”). To get through the almost two hours of being on TV, Obama looks like he needed a big injection of beta-blockers and/or amphetamines. If you noticed at the beginning of the debate he was talking fast, acting erratic, and blinking like CRAZY he was still jazzed up by whatever they gave him. About twenty minutes later, it seems like the adrenaline in his system from being in front of the crowd might have caused the uppers to wear off…and his energy levels collapsed after that. By the end of the debate, Obama looked like he was aching for a new fix.

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very interesting article
1 posted on 10/04/2012 7:32:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Here is my favorite:

6. Mitt Romney had one of the best and most destructive lines I have ever heard in a debate: when he compared Obama talking to things his five sons would say when they were small children and tried to get him to believe their lies. This was wonderful. I’ve never seen a grown man humiliated this way before…being compared to small children and not being able to give any sort of retort because it was totally accurate. Romney did this after Obama kept insisting that Romney would raise taxes by $5 trillion or some nonsense. Romney kept saying that Obama was wrong and told him to stop repeating that. Obama wouldn’t, so Romney had to finally tell him that just because he keeps saying something doesn’t make it true…and then Romney said, “you know, I raised five boys and they’d often keep saying something until they thought I’d believe it and it never worked”. Obama put his head down after that and didn’t try that $5 trillion thing again. Romney totally scolded Obama and Obama had no retort for it. It. Was. Epic.

Read more http://hillbuzz.org/daily-doom-antidote-ten-things-to-know-about-denver-debate-last-night-1042012-1042012


2 posted on 10/04/2012 7:34:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
"Mitt Romney had one of the best and most destructive lines I have ever heard in a debate: when he compared Obama talking to things his five sons would say when they were small children and tried to get him to believe their lies. This was wonderful. I’ve never seen a grown man humiliated this way before"

You bet. That was devestating. Not only did it point out that Romney is a bigger family man than Obama it was an analogy that every parent can relate to and understand. I guarantee there were 20 million heads nodding when he said that.

3 posted on 10/04/2012 7:41:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: RummyChick

I love Kevin DuJan. I take what he says - sometimes - with a grain of salt - but he does have his ear to the ground in Chicago. Obama looked like he was on downers, though, not uppers.


4 posted on 10/04/2012 7:41:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: RummyChick

#11: It’s possible that Obama got his usual early-notice of September’s job numbers (they’re out tomorrow morning) prior to the debate.

If they’re bad (and us mere mortals will find out tomorrow) that would certainly put me in a foul mood if I were the incumbent president being forced to defend my economy. And would drive a lot of the behaviors observed in this article.


5 posted on 10/04/2012 7:42:37 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RummyChick
very interesting article

There are some pretty serious accusations in that article.

If any of them are true, I suspect we will be hearing about it in the next few years. The tell-tale sign will be what Obama does when he leaves office.

If he turns into a recluse, he'll drop off the map for a few years. The question is whether he will be able to clean himself up, or whether he resurfaces briefly like Rock Hudson did.

6 posted on 10/04/2012 7:46:10 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: RummyChick

Another great line:

“You are entitled to your house and airplane, but not your own facts.”


7 posted on 10/04/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: miss marmelstein; RummyChick

Personally, I think Obama’s crazy, and it could be that they’re having to medicate him heavily now. He’s been carefully protected from stress virtually since the start (no press conferences after it became clear that he couldn’t handle them, lots of vacations, virtually no public appearances except celebrity type appearances at parties or social events, etc.). But perhaps the campaign stress has been too much for him and his handlers are relying on a lot of “chemical therapy” for him now.

Did anybody notice how angry he looked last night? It was very creepy; he had a muscle twitching in his jaw, too, which didn’t help the overall impression.


8 posted on 10/04/2012 7:49:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: RummyChick

I think that FR is overwhelming that website- I can’t get there now.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 7:51:58 AM PDT by matthew fuller (10/03/2012- America met her last black president.)
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To: RummyChick

Hmmmmmmmmmmm........ I listened to it on TV — working on my laptop at the same time — so I didn’t notice all these details. I just know that Romney won, and obama lost.


10 posted on 10/04/2012 7:53:58 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: livius

Who the Gods destroy, they first make insane ;)With Jarrett and any number of other commies vying each for their own differing causes, he’s surely pulled in a hundred directions at once. Add the stress of knowing the ride is almost over and Attilla his Hun likely spazzing about all of it....

Anyone not starting out nuts would get there fast. And he had a hell of a head start.

Then the drugs...

Then the gay thing starting to gain traction...

And God knows what else we haven’t even guessed at that this crew is up to/covering up.


11 posted on 10/04/2012 7:59:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: RummyChick
I often have the impression that many liberals on camera have oddly dark, black eyes with no distinction between irises and pupils. Now, Obama is black and has dark brown eyes but most black people don't have eyes that seem not to have any pupils.

My thought--dilated pupils like he'd had a dose of belladonna. This is the same impression I get when I am unfortunate enough to watch a youtube of Stephen Colbert, a really creepy "comic" on Comedy Central...

12 posted on 10/04/2012 7:59:57 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: livius

I did see the twitching jaw! I was kinda tired last night and my radar was running low. I’m thinking of watching parts of it again on youtube.


13 posted on 10/04/2012 8:00:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: livius

I think he is crazy crazy, gay, a druggie, and possibly physically ill.

The debates will unmask it.

Had Romney debated him in 2007 (instead of Traitor Juan) he might have been able to cover it. But the last 4 years have taken a toll...as they do to any President.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 8:01:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Concerning drug use for the debate, yesterday I posted a vanity here in which I proposed the pharmaco-kinetic problems of using cocaine - O’s drug of choice - for a 90 minute debate versus a shorter speech.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2939700/posts


15 posted on 10/04/2012 8:02:51 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: RummyChick
I Call BS. He's the PRESIDENT of the United States - he doesn't have to buy shit off the street.

There's pharmaceutical stuff he could ingest that would have done him just fine. Think there's not a "first pharmacist" who can hook him up with whatever is needed?

16 posted on 10/04/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: RummyChick
Blah blah blah....excuses, excuses, excuses.

Face it Leftos, he's a loser....and it really shows up when he's put beside a truly smart, knowledgeable and experienced guy...for the first time, and in full public view. Lick your wounds while you can, but you better be ready for a fresh crop of new ones.

17 posted on 10/04/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: justlurking
very interesting article

There are some pretty serious accusations in that article.

If any of them are true, I suspect we will be hearing about it in the next few years.

RummyChick, Thanks for posting this hard hitting article. Kevin writes some pretty amazing stuff. I am gaining respect for him both as a writer and as a true investigative journalist.

justlurking, you are right. These are serious accusations that go to Obama's core. I suspect that one of the reasons they are being posted is because how weak Obama showed himself to be.

I hope one of you kept a copy/paste or a screen shot of the article. I cannot get into HillBuzz for trying right now. No access on any of the links. Maybe it could be that everyone has heard about the article and wants to read it.

18 posted on 10/04/2012 8:03:23 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: livius
Did anybody notice how angry he looked last night? It was very creepy; he had a muscle twitching in his jaw, too, which didn't help the overall impression.

When he looked at Romney last night, several times he looked like he was seething with anger.....

After all, Mitt Romney is the antithesis of all that Obozo despises in this country and he also represents Obozo's version of the Antichrist.....

19 posted on 10/04/2012 8:05:09 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: RummyChick
Here's my fav line about Zero from this article
He was rumpled and honestly looked like he might smell a little of urine. What on Earth was he doing immediately prior to arriving for the debate?
20 posted on 10/04/2012 8:08:28 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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I don’t think I have ever seen a debate where it was actually impossible for the Left Media to spin. This was such a destruction, it was amazing.


21 posted on 10/04/2012 8:11:45 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: thingumbob

I suspect Romney is not used to people talking to him like Obama did. He’s a rich man who is used to being treated with respect, even if it is insincere. I suspect Obama was trying to talk down to him.

Obama is used to saying whatever he wants and people nodding their heads. If Obama said you could see Iran from Alaska, people wouldn’t call him on it. When Romney called him out on his “facts”, Obama had no idea how to respond. He has no experience with being “wrong”. The Teleprompter and the friendly WH Press Corps was his downfall.


22 posted on 10/04/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: thingumbob

“After all, Mitt Romney is the antithesis of all that Obozo despises in this country and he also represents Obozo’s version of the Antichrist..... “

I hadn’t thought of that but you are right.

A successful WHITE male man with a commanding voice and commanding looks just handed him his head on a platter making Obama look like a buffoon.

I bet he is on the way to a meltdown.

I loved the line about being in business for 25 years and never heard of what Obama was claiming

Mitt showed Obama knows nothing about anything but entitlements..an empty chair and an empty suit.


23 posted on 10/04/2012 8:13:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: livius

His anger and the constant grimace were the first things my husband mentioned to me this morning as he recounted the debate for me. In all honesty, I couldn’t watch; I detest the sight of the man and his voice that much, I went to bed.
I agree with Carville’s assesment. Obama did not want to be there and he doesn’t want to endure two more debates either. It will be very interesting to see if there are new demands for different formats, he’s just too busy to attend, etc. If he can find a way to get out of the remaining debates he will.


24 posted on 10/04/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Solar Wind

Until you can get to Hillbuzz..have a laugh at Hillary Clinton..this picture is the same look Bill would be giving Christina
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2940036/posts?page=26


25 posted on 10/04/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I had it on in the background while i was working in my pantry for the first hour, so I didn’t see all of that. It just sounded like Romney was the equivalent of the London Blitz.


26 posted on 10/04/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: RummyChick

At first glance I thought that this a joke, like a Letterman style top 10 list, but as soon as I started reading I realized this is all serious stuff.


27 posted on 10/04/2012 8:17:55 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: RummyChick

And if you listened carefully you heard a number of people in the audience gasp after he made that comment...it was a Joe Wilson “You Lie” moment with velvet gloves.


28 posted on 10/04/2012 8:18:33 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: dagogo redux

Did he rub his nose last night?


29 posted on 10/04/2012 8:23:30 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Priceless.....

“5. Without a TelePrompTer for a crutch (that he has depended on for four years) Obama could barely string two sentences together without rambling, looking out into the crowd lost, and seeming disoriented. Remind me again why this man was supposed to be the greatest orator in the world and the most eloquent and soaring political speech-giver? Because he was a dull stumbling bumbler last night. I don’t even think Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann could masturbate to that debate performance Obama gave. Maybe Anderson Cooper, though.”


30 posted on 10/04/2012 8:30:43 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: RummyChick
This was the Obama I saw last night, missing -- really missing! -- the cigarette.


31 posted on 10/04/2012 8:34:57 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: RummyChick

I, unfortunately had work obligations until far into the night, and only saw clips and pieces after I got home, and nothing from the early part of the debate at all, so I don’t know if the nose thing was evident.

What I do know as a shrink is in keeping with the hillbuzz article, but I also know that any shrink psychopharmacologist worth his salt, with enough time ahead of time, could have had Obama looking better for two hours if it was only drug withdrawal, which lends credence to the idea that something like early AIDS dementia or early Parkinson’s may be at play.

Even leaving brain chemistry out of it, he’s toast after an appearance like that. A deep and disturbing image of this man is now indelibly printed on the mind of all but the most delusional. Chickens come home to roost.


32 posted on 10/04/2012 8:37:10 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

One of the interesting things is that some of the really hard-core secular leftists have departed his administration and are back in Chicago now (Rahm Emmanuel, for example). I don’t think it’s just a case of rats leaving a sinking ship.

I think he’s nuts, but I also think he’s set off on a direction that even the standard radical leftists don’t like. He’s very much into the anti-Israel, pro-Islamic black power stuff, and about the only people who still like him are black entertainment figures (the only people he is still seen with very much, for that matter). So I think he may have come to a parting of the ways with some of the traditional leftists.


33 posted on 10/04/2012 8:39:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: AppyPappy; RummyChick
Last night was the media's October surprise.....except it was on them!

This is what you get when you never make "Your Guy" accountable or ask him to explain his position on issues.

The media gave us a win because they never demanded accountablitity from Obozo. He stood there last night complete devoid of answers and substance, just so much bloviating smoke a mirror rhetoric and an utterly hollow-empty shell of a President.

One thing I knew was that if you're a Narcissist like Obozo, its hard to take criticism from anyone and that's why Obozo looked so uncomfortable, defensive and seething at times as well. Someone in the Romney camp must have known this, if it wasn't Romney himself who realized it already.

Yep the shine is off and we all know that a new car never looks as good as the first day you drive it off the lot......and you can't wallpaper over your mistakes if there's nothing solid there to stick it to.....which describes Obozo to a tee.

34 posted on 10/04/2012 8:40:01 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: RummyChick

Amphetamines last hours, not 20 minutes. I’ll assume the rest of the article is of the same quality.


35 posted on 10/04/2012 8:50:40 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Bobalu

Kevin’s article is SCATHING to say the least.

Very well written. Except using waive instead of wave. Wish he’d hire me as his proofreader.

If any of that stuff is true, wow!


36 posted on 10/04/2012 8:51:54 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: RummyChick
Ya know Rummy, the way he was fidgeting on that stage last night, like a man in desperate need of the loo ... also had me wondering about his drug use. Also, he looked like glazed-eye street hell in the close-ups.

The jerky head movement, the twitchy legs, the failure to look at Romney, the desperate weaving and bobbing trying to find the Sorosprompters, the ludicrous and statements, the hemming and hawing ... somethin' just ain't all right here.

Maybe Mitt or somebody ought to challenge this guy to a drug screen.

37 posted on 10/04/2012 8:55:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: Lx

I don’t think he is saying that Obama took a drug and 20 minutes later it was gone.

He is saying Obama was on something and it wore off 20 minutes into the debate because there was a marked Change in Obama.


38 posted on 10/04/2012 8:56:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Ya know Rummy, the way he was fidgeting on that stage last night, like a man in desperate need of the loo ... also had me wondering about his drug use. Also, he looked like glazed-eye street hell in the close-ups.

The jerky head movement, the twitchy legs, the failure to look at Romney, the desperate weaving and bobbing trying to find the Sorosprompters, the ludicrous and statements, the hemming and hawing ... somethin' just ain't all right here.

Maybe Mitt or somebody ought to challenge this guy to a drug screen.

39 posted on 10/04/2012 8:57:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: RummyChick

for later


40 posted on 10/04/2012 8:58:52 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Ransom "Rance" Stoddard)
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To: Slump Tester

Wow, that word is to become just common everyday language here now?


41 posted on 10/04/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: RummyChick; Protect the Bill of Rights; hoosiermama; STARWISE; SE Mom; penelopesire; LucyT; ...

PING!


42 posted on 10/04/2012 9:02:04 AM PDT by maggief
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To: dagogo redux
"...something like early AIDS dementia or early Parkinson’s may be at play."

Kevin has been speculating for several years now that 0 has Parkinson's. If that had been the case in say, 2009 or so though, I would imagine he would show obvious symptoms by now.

43 posted on 10/04/2012 9:04:09 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: AZLiberty

Mile high altitude + too many Newports = low oxygen LOL.


44 posted on 10/04/2012 9:04:55 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Windflier

Hmmm? Could this be the cause of JJJ bi-polar disorder too. Then if would be having something in common.


45 posted on 10/04/2012 9:32:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: RummyChick
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46 posted on 10/04/2012 9:34:55 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: hoosiermama
Posted in hb comments:

Did anyone watch Morning Joe? My uber Barack Obama supporter friend took great relish in telling me that someone on Morning Joe, amazingly she could not remember exactly who, mentioned that “chicago has some stuff” and “guess it will be coming out now”.

47 posted on 10/04/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Norm Lenhart
And God knows what else we haven’t even guessed at that this crew is up to/covering up.

And you forgot that his foreign policy is for radical Islam. Libya, Egypt, taking military out of Iraq, attacks on Syria: All are aimed at placing radical Islam in control.

Obama always said he would side with Islam, America just doesn't seem to realize Obama is the Muslim Brotherhood.

48 posted on 10/04/2012 9:35:49 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: dagogo redux

Only watched first part...Too painful to look at it all even though was in listening range.

Suicide candidate popped into my head after he started the ‘staring at the floor’. SOme serious problems there.


49 posted on 10/04/2012 9:36:13 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: maggief

Imformation is spreading through Gay community of Michigan.


50 posted on 10/04/2012 9:38:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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