Skip to comments.Gay Boy Scout, Bullied by Troop, Denied Eagle Rank
Posted on 10/05/2012 7:27:25 AM PDT by Zakeet
Ryan Andresen has spent a decade completing the requirements for the coveted Eagle Scout award, and now that he is just about turn 18 -- the cut-off date for attaining the highest honor -- his Boy Scout troop won't approve it because he is gay.
His project, a "tolerance wall," was inspired by the years of hazing he endured in middle school in Moraga, Calif., and later at Boy Scout summer camp, where his nicknames were "Tinkerbell" and "faggot."
"I had I had no idea what gay was at that point," said Andresen, who described hazing that included, among other rituals, having the word "fag" written in charcoal across his chest.
"It was really embarrassing and humiliating," he said. "And I was terrified."
A senior and honors student who hopes to go the University of San Francisco, Ryan joined the Boy Scouts at age 6. "He just liked the outdoors and hiking," said Karen Andresen, 49.
Ryan came out to his parents when he was "around 16," said his mother. In July, he wrote a letter to the troop in response to a bullying incident and "thought he could help," disclosing he was gay.
But just this week the scoutmaster of Troop 212, Rainer Del Valle, refused to give the final signature on Ryan's project, one that he had initially approved, according to the Andresens.
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His project was a tolerance wall
Sounds more like an “accept and love me for my perversions” wall.
Apparently this boy chose to ignore the “morally straight” part of Scouting.
Those are the rules. And if he informed his Scout leadership that he was gay two years ago then they should have removed him then.
I do not believe that a “tolerance wall” meets the minimal standards for an Eagle Scout Project.
“After years of bullying, Ryan struggled with cutting and an eating disorder, according to his mother”
I have always believed homosexuality to be a mental disorder...and statements like this confirm it.
As an Assistant Scout Master (ASM), I have a hard time believing any bullying or hazing occurred. ASMs are trained to look for and put a stop to any hazing. Further, all adults on a camp out must attend and pass the training known as Youth Protection Training where the subject of the BSA zero tolerance for abuse of hazing of ANY kind.
His Mom? What does his Dad think? What? No Dad in the picture. Imagine that.
” As an Assistant Scout Master (ASM), I have a hard time believing any bullying or hazing occurred. “
I’m sure it didn’t. Somebody is coaching this kid.
But there really wasn't anything he could do with fabrics or floral design.
Just another queer looking for a payout!!!
Utter, fabricated BS with the intended outcome of 15 minutes of fame.
I was never in scouting but some of my friends were and got their eagle rank. That looks like a tiny fraction of what my friends did for their projects.
The article says he joined boy scouts when he was 6. I thought you couldn’t join until you are 11. (I was an Eagle Scout myself).
I agree....And who solicited him??? Of course these fags will never fess up because they’re totally messed up.
Eating disorder?? Like puking...Wow, there’s a surprise.
Just another staged political attack against the Boy Scouts by intolerant. leftist haters.
He spent 10 years trying to earn an award foe which he was ineligible. Too bad he never earned the “Read the eligibility requirements badge”.
It looks stupid, like a third-grade project.
Yeah, I know, I'm intolerant.
” I thought you couldnt join until you are 11. (I was an Eagle Scout myself).”
I caught that too and I joined when I was 11, due to the rules but that was years ago and haven’t known of any rule change. Fag boy here is making out that he’s the victim yet smart people know that one bitchy minority ruins the majority.
What is it with gays and them writing slurs on themselves and blaming it on someone else?
I can put a petition on Change.org to have the planet named to “Disco Ball #3” and get twice that.
So no doubt he wants the media to bully his troop leader to break the “morally straight” Boy Scout pledge to accommodate his perversion.
Why don’t all those exceptional homosexual families that we constantly read about form their own organizations instead of infesting those of normal people?
Notice the filled in squares.
Apparently he DIDN’T finish the project as he didn’t get enough signatures on that third grade, after school project.
I agree with you.
I too have been an Assistant Scout Master and any kind of hazing is required to be stopped.
Someone else mentioned that this boy should have been kicked out for being homosexual...I don’t believe that is a requirement for scouts. The Boy Scouts policy is against leaders being homosexual. I don’t recall anything which prevents boys who think they are homosexual from being a scout. However, I believe that once a scout becomes an Eagle Scout, they automatically, at age 18, become an adult leader, so that could have played into this.
Finally, if all his project was was a “tolerance wall”, I seriously doubt that would pass muster as a serious community project. I know that wimpy of a project would never get approved in my troop or by my council.
The rank of Eagle Scout has to be earned and it isn’t meant to be given to every scout who just “puts in the time.” There has to be real leadership shown and the rank of Eagle can be denied at many points along the path. I know. I have two sons who are Eagle Scouts, and it wasn’t an easy time of just putting in time. They had to demonstrate real leadership.
Yeah that embodies the values that build this nation. The Founders of the country envisioned people building “tolerance walls” in the young nations future.
They’ve lowered the starting age for Scouts. My boys all started at 6 years old as “Tiger Scouts” which changes to the “Bobcat” rank about midway through the year.
I mean, even that AA gymnast is saying people called her names wwaaaaaayyyyy back when but didn’t think to say anything when it happened??!!
I am calling bullsh!t on that one too. I am sure if people around her and this boy were polled, the stories of the majority would be vastly different.
For those that don’t know the geography involved, Moraga is a suburb of San Francisco, about 15 miles to the east, on the sunny side of the Berkeley hills. Pretty rich area, but completely infested by San Francisco moonbats that want warm weather in the summer.
Which pretty much tells you all you need to know about this story...
I thought “troop” was Girl Scouts and “pack” is Boy Scouts.
Nobody should be abused like that.
On the other hand, if he is making his perversion public he can hardly expect an organization which requires its members to be morally striaght to tolerate his blantant behavior.
The problem here is that society is being pressured to accept homosexuality as an “alternative life style” by Hollywood and political “elites” when in reality it is a perversion. People who pracice it should not be abused but they and the practice should be condemned and it should be treated as what it is - a form of mental illness.
No, you WERE not an Eagle Scout, you ARE an Eagle Scout. That title never leaves you, just as Brotherhood in the Order of the Arrow.
That is what I was told when I achieved those titles.
For as long as the “gay” issue has been a very large issue (say 20 years or more) in this country and with no possible misconceptions as to the stance on the Boy Scouts of America, this idiot has no business attaining any rank or awards because he violated the oath.
Kick his smarmy little ass out and remove any of his accomplishments in the official registry. Then tell his mommy to go pi$$ off.
I was in Troop 7 of the Boy Scouts in Cental Florida.
They are probably counting Cub Scouts.
As a Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster who now helps young men in our troop reach the rank of Eagle, here are my comments:
1) Boys of the age of 6 can be in Cub Scouts and then get to Boy Scouts at the age of 10 1/2.
2) I always tell the young men that there are two ways they can fail to get their Eagle rank during a board of review: if they say they don’t believe in some heavenly power or if they say they are gay. Being gay DOES keep a Scout from being a Boy Scout because of the “morally straight” part of the Scout Oath.
3) Boy Scouts does not despise homosexuals. Rather, it’s all about being appropriate and setting priorities. Just as a young man who sires illegitimate children isn’t morally straight, so is any young man who places his sexuality above all other priorities. In the case of this young man and many others, you must decided whether being a gay activist is more important than being a Boy Scout. You can’t have it both ways. Boys Scouts does not want to be involved in sexuality—to do so is ENTIRELY inappropriate.
On my honor....to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and MORALLY STRAIGHT. Nuff said.
I too can see the writing on the wall: all of the current attempts to inject the bullying agenda into our public schools is nothing more than a back-door attempt to legislate recognition of the homosexual lifestyle. While the legislative process is slowly being driven by money and progressive candidates, I believe a more insidious approach is being made from a different direction - through our kids. Imagine the point in time being reached where the legal side (law) meets up with the public outcry about “fairness” and “bullying of views” - I fear a tidalwave of cultural emotion to swing the last vestiges of their plan into place: the complete capitualtion to the radical homosexual agenda.
Why do we have separate bathrooms for males & females?
Why do we have separate showers for males & females?
The answer to this one “should” be obvious. Most boys would love coed showers, most girls would hate it. You girls, imagine two boys in your shower room, full of girls, talking to each other, one of them has a major erection. Would this make you uncomfortable? (YES) Would it be okay to have boys in the girls shower room? (NO).
This is the situation I faced in the boys shower room in high school. No girls, but an obvious gay boy. He didn't admit to me that he was gay, so I'm just guessing because of the “major erection” he would get being around naked boys. Now was I uncomfortable? You betcha. If I were allowed in the girls shower room, I would certainly have had the same reaction. THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW IT!
They wouldn't let boys & girls sleep together (in a two man tent) in the scouts. YET, it's okay to subject and or allow a normal boy to sleep in a two man tent with a gay boy?
It's time for the LGBT Scouts of America for the THIRD sex.
According to the article he concluded he was gay when he was in his early teens and finally told his scout leader when he was 16. My question is why didn’t the scout leader remove him then?
Eating disorder?? Like puking...Wow, theres a surprise.
No more cub scouts?
His “tolerance wall” was about bullying in the schools and had tiles created by several students.
Not a project that really shows leadership or other scout traits but where he lives may have something to do with the acceptance of such a project for Eagle.
In my son’s district, several scouts have been rejected for Eagle and it is not unusual. None have gone on to complete it after being rejected. Usually, it is for not taking the requirements seriously enough and/or not completing them all.
I suspect that his being gay has little to do with his rejection. This one smells like more pressure to get the gay agenda forced upon the B.S.A. - again.
The bullying also sounds like either a lack of leadership at his troop level (unlikely) or hypersensitivity from a scout that has an entitlement mentality.
>> His project, a “tolerance wall,”
I’d seriously like someone to explain to me why that “tolerance” BS only goes ONE way.
So I hate faggots! TOLERATE it, beyotch. I’m not gonna change. I was born that way.
Those would be I believe, a part of the Cub Scouts...Between the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, you have the Webelos...
Boy Scouts start at age eleven...
Dear God....No comment....
This is complete BS. This queer is simply looking for attention for his mental disorder.
University of San Francisco...Now there’s a surprise....Obviously the kid is soliciting a scholarship
This is complete BS. This queer was never abused and is simply looking for attention for his mental disorder.
Here is the current sequence for the various Scouting organizations: 1st grade (age 6) - Tiger Cub to Bobcat; 2d grade (age 7) - Cub Scout, Wolf rank; 3d grade (age 8) - Cub Scout, Bear rank; 4th grade (age 9) - Webelos, 1st year; 5th grade (age 10) - Webelos, 2d year, transition to Boy Scouts at age 10-1/2, usually in the spring of the 4th grade; Boy Scouts, up to age 18, ranks Tenderfoot to Eagle; Venture Scouting (coed), outdoor adventure program, ages 14-21; Explorers (coed), career exploration (aka Learning for Life) for ages 14-21.
As to this person’s “Eagle project”, I agree with those who think it is woefully short of the project requirements I knew when I was a Scoutmaster and Troop Committee Chair. It never should have been approved by the troop or the District Advancement committee. The primary reason it does not appear to meet the requirements is the lack of a leadership element. He did this pretty much on his own.
>> Between the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, you have the Webelos...
Hmm... “Webelos”... maybe that’s what attracted this Andreson kid. Only he didn’t think it was spelled like that...