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Gay Boy Scout, Bullied by Troop, Denied Eagle Rank
ABC News ^ | October 5, 2012

Posted on 10/05/2012 7:27:25 AM PDT by Zakeet

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His project was a tolerance wall

1 posted on 10/05/2012 7:27:28 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Sounds more like an “accept and love me for my perversions” wall.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 7:31:07 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Zakeet

Apparently this boy chose to ignore the “morally straight” part of Scouting.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 7:31:54 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Zakeet

Those are the rules. And if he informed his Scout leadership that he was gay two years ago then they should have removed him then.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 7:32:05 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Zakeet

I do not believe that a “tolerance wall” meets the minimal standards for an Eagle Scout Project.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 7:33:22 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: Zakeet

“After years of bullying, Ryan struggled with cutting and an eating disorder, according to his mother”

I have always believed homosexuality to be a mental disorder...and statements like this confirm it.


6 posted on 10/05/2012 7:34:23 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Zakeet

As an Assistant Scout Master (ASM), I have a hard time believing any bullying or hazing occurred. ASMs are trained to look for and put a stop to any hazing. Further, all adults on a camp out must attend and pass the training known as Youth Protection Training where the subject of the BSA zero tolerance for abuse of hazing of ANY kind.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 7:34:27 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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His mom, Karen Andresen, was so upset by the troops' decision that she posted a petition on Change.org that has topped more than 22,000 signatures.

His Mom? What does his Dad think? What? No Dad in the picture. Imagine that.

8 posted on 10/05/2012 7:36:03 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: taxcontrol

” As an Assistant Scout Master (ASM), I have a hard time believing any bullying or hazing occurred. “

I’m sure it didn’t. Somebody is coaching this kid.


9 posted on 10/05/2012 7:36:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Zakeet
"His project was a tolerance wall."

But there really wasn't anything he could do with fabrics or floral design.

10 posted on 10/05/2012 7:36:57 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Delhi Rebels
The kid wasn't queer when he began at age 6?? Who solicited him??

Just another queer looking for a payout!!!

11 posted on 10/05/2012 7:37:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Zakeet

Utter, fabricated BS with the intended outcome of 15 minutes of fame.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 7:38:56 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
I do not believe that a “tolerance wall” meets the minimal standards for an Eagle Scout Project.

I was never in scouting but some of my friends were and got their eagle rank. That looks like a tiny fraction of what my friends did for their projects.

13 posted on 10/05/2012 7:39:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: Zakeet

The article says he joined boy scouts when he was 6. I thought you couldn’t join until you are 11. (I was an Eagle Scout myself).


14 posted on 10/05/2012 7:40:15 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: lacrew

I agree....And who solicited him??? Of course these fags will never fess up because they’re totally messed up.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 7:40:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: lacrew

Eating disorder?? Like puking...Wow, there’s a surprise.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 7:41:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Zakeet

Just another staged political attack against the Boy Scouts by intolerant. leftist haters.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 7:42:56 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Zakeet

He spent 10 years trying to earn an award foe which he was ineligible. Too bad he never earned the “Read the eligibility requirements badge”.


18 posted on 10/05/2012 7:44:52 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: Zakeet
That's his "tolerance wall" in the above picture?

It looks stupid, like a third-grade project.

Yeah, I know, I'm intolerant.

19 posted on 10/05/2012 7:45:13 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Indep. Payment Advisory Board = "Death Panels")
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To: norcal joe

” I thought you couldn’t join until you are 11. (I was an Eagle Scout myself).”

I caught that too and I joined when I was 11, due to the rules but that was years ago and haven’t known of any rule change. Fag boy here is making out that he’s the victim yet smart people know that one bitchy minority ruins the majority.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 7:46:31 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: taxcontrol

What is it with gays and them writing slurs on themselves and blaming it on someone else?

Project much?


21 posted on 10/05/2012 7:47:24 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: ElkGroveDan

I can put a petition on Change.org to have the planet named to “Disco Ball #3” and get twice that.


22 posted on 10/05/2012 7:47:35 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Zakeet

So no doubt he wants the media to bully his troop leader to break the “morally straight” Boy Scout pledge to accommodate his perversion.

Why don’t all those exceptional homosexual families that we constantly read about form their own organizations instead of infesting those of normal people?


23 posted on 10/05/2012 7:49:02 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: eCSMaster

Notice the filled in squares.

Apparently he DIDN’T finish the project as he didn’t get enough signatures on that third grade, after school project.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 7:50:11 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: taxcontrol

I agree with you.

I too have been an Assistant Scout Master and any kind of hazing is required to be stopped.

Someone else mentioned that this boy should have been kicked out for being homosexual...I don’t believe that is a requirement for scouts. The Boy Scouts policy is against leaders being homosexual. I don’t recall anything which prevents boys who think they are homosexual from being a scout. However, I believe that once a scout becomes an Eagle Scout, they automatically, at age 18, become an adult leader, so that could have played into this.

Finally, if all his project was was a “tolerance wall”, I seriously doubt that would pass muster as a serious community project. I know that wimpy of a project would never get approved in my troop or by my council.

The rank of Eagle Scout has to be earned and it isn’t meant to be given to every scout who just “puts in the time.” There has to be real leadership shown and the rank of Eagle can be denied at many points along the path. I know. I have two sons who are Eagle Scouts, and it wasn’t an easy time of just putting in time. They had to demonstrate real leadership.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 7:50:19 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: Zakeet
“His project, a “tolerance wall,”

Yeah that embodies the values that build this nation. The Founders of the country envisioned people building “tolerance walls” in the young nations future.

26 posted on 10/05/2012 7:52:46 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: max americana

They’ve lowered the starting age for Scouts. My boys all started at 6 years old as “Tiger Scouts” which changes to the “Bobcat” rank about midway through the year.


27 posted on 10/05/2012 7:53:18 AM PDT by reegs
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I mean, even that AA gymnast is saying people called her names wwaaaaaayyyyy back when but didn’t think to say anything when it happened??!!

I am calling bullsh!t on that one too. I am sure if people around her and this boy were polled, the stories of the majority would be vastly different.


28 posted on 10/05/2012 7:53:52 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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For those that don’t know the geography involved, Moraga is a suburb of San Francisco, about 15 miles to the east, on the sunny side of the Berkeley hills. Pretty rich area, but completely infested by San Francisco moonbats that want warm weather in the summer.

Which pretty much tells you all you need to know about this story...


29 posted on 10/05/2012 7:56:03 AM PDT by ssaftler (With apologies to Gene Kranz: "Obama is not an option")
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To: Zakeet

I thought “troop” was Girl Scouts and “pack” is Boy Scouts.


30 posted on 10/05/2012 7:56:28 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Zakeet

Nobody should be abused like that.

On the other hand, if he is making his perversion public he can hardly expect an organization which requires its members to be morally striaght to tolerate his blantant behavior.

The problem here is that society is being pressured to accept homosexuality as an “alternative life style” by Hollywood and political “elites” when in reality it is a perversion. People who pracice it should not be abused but they and the practice should be condemned and it should be treated as what it is - a form of mental illness.


31 posted on 10/05/2012 7:58:28 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: norcal joe

No, you WERE not an Eagle Scout, you ARE an Eagle Scout. That title never leaves you, just as Brotherhood in the Order of the Arrow.

That is what I was told when I achieved those titles.

For as long as the “gay” issue has been a very large issue (say 20 years or more) in this country and with no possible misconceptions as to the stance on the Boy Scouts of America, this idiot has no business attaining any rank or awards because he violated the oath.

Kick his smarmy little ass out and remove any of his accomplishments in the official registry. Then tell his mommy to go pi$$ off.


32 posted on 10/05/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: cld51860

I was in Troop 7 of the Boy Scouts in Cental Florida.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 8:00:53 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: max americana; norcal joe

They are probably counting Cub Scouts.


34 posted on 10/05/2012 8:01:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: ScubieNuc

As a Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster who now helps young men in our troop reach the rank of Eagle, here are my comments:

1) Boys of the age of 6 can be in Cub Scouts and then get to Boy Scouts at the age of 10 1/2.
2) I always tell the young men that there are two ways they can fail to get their Eagle rank during a board of review: if they say they don’t believe in some heavenly power or if they say they are gay. Being gay DOES keep a Scout from being a Boy Scout because of the “morally straight” part of the Scout Oath.
3) Boy Scouts does not despise homosexuals. Rather, it’s all about being appropriate and setting priorities. Just as a young man who sires illegitimate children isn’t morally straight, so is any young man who places his sexuality above all other priorities. In the case of this young man and many others, you must decided whether being a gay activist is more important than being a Boy Scout. You can’t have it both ways. Boys Scouts does not want to be involved in sexuality—to do so is ENTIRELY inappropriate.


35 posted on 10/05/2012 8:01:49 AM PDT by HopeSprings
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To: ScubieNuc

On my honor....to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and MORALLY STRAIGHT. Nuff said.


36 posted on 10/05/2012 8:03:44 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Zakeet

I too can see the writing on the wall: all of the current attempts to inject the bullying agenda into our public schools is nothing more than a back-door attempt to legislate recognition of the homosexual lifestyle. While the legislative process is slowly being driven by money and progressive candidates, I believe a more insidious approach is being made from a different direction - through our kids. Imagine the point in time being reached where the legal side (law) meets up with the public outcry about “fairness” and “bullying of views” - I fear a tidalwave of cultural emotion to swing the last vestiges of their plan into place: the complete capitualtion to the radical homosexual agenda.


37 posted on 10/05/2012 8:03:54 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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The “BOY Scouts is for “BOYS”. He should join the Girl Scouts. If not, they should start a new scout group for the THIRD sex.

Why do we have separate bathrooms for males & females?

Why do we have separate showers for males & females?
The answer to this one “should” be obvious. Most boys would love coed showers, most girls would hate it. You girls, imagine two boys in your shower room, full of girls, talking to each other, one of them has a major erection. Would this make you uncomfortable? (YES) Would it be okay to have boys in the girls shower room? (NO).

This is the situation I faced in the boys shower room in high school. No girls, but an obvious gay boy. He didn't admit to me that he was gay, so I'm just guessing because of the “major erection” he would get being around naked boys. Now was I uncomfortable? You betcha. If I were allowed in the girls shower room, I would certainly have had the same reaction. THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW IT!

They wouldn't let boys & girls sleep together (in a two man tent) in the scouts. YET, it's okay to subject and or allow a normal boy to sleep in a two man tent with a gay boy?

It's time for the LGBT Scouts of America for the THIRD sex.

38 posted on 10/05/2012 8:04:18 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Sacajaweau

According to the article he concluded he was gay when he was in his early teens and finally told his scout leader when he was 16. My question is why didn’t the scout leader remove him then?


39 posted on 10/05/2012 8:04:22 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Eating disorder?? Like puking...Wow, there’s a surprise.


His favorite food was wieners with peanut butter on them. However, he was allergic to peanuts and made him puke. However, he couldn’t stop eating them.


40 posted on 10/05/2012 8:04:44 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: reegs

No more cub scouts?


41 posted on 10/05/2012 8:06:41 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: eCSMaster

His “tolerance wall” was about bullying in the schools and had tiles created by several students.

Not a project that really shows leadership or other scout traits but where he lives may have something to do with the acceptance of such a project for Eagle.

In my son’s district, several scouts have been rejected for Eagle and it is not unusual. None have gone on to complete it after being rejected. Usually, it is for not taking the requirements seriously enough and/or not completing them all.

I suspect that his being gay has little to do with his rejection. This one smells like more pressure to get the gay agenda forced upon the B.S.A. - again.

The bullying also sounds like either a lack of leadership at his troop level (unlikely) or hypersensitivity from a scout that has an entitlement mentality.


42 posted on 10/05/2012 8:07:01 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: Zakeet

>> His project, a “tolerance wall,”

I’d seriously like someone to explain to me why that “tolerance” BS only goes ONE way.

So I hate faggots! TOLERATE it, beyotch. I’m not gonna change. I was born that way.


43 posted on 10/05/2012 8:07:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: reegs
They’ve lowered the starting age for Scouts. My boys all started at 6 years old as “Tiger Scouts” which changes to the “Bobcat” rank about midway through the year.

Those would be I believe, a part of the Cub Scouts...Between the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, you have the Webelos...

Boy Scouts start at age eleven...

44 posted on 10/05/2012 8:09:07 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: DH

Dear God....No comment....


45 posted on 10/05/2012 8:12:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: ZULU

This is complete BS. This queer is simply looking for attention for his mental disorder.


46 posted on 10/05/2012 8:13:48 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Zakeet

University of San Francisco...Now there’s a surprise....Obviously the kid is soliciting a scholarship


47 posted on 10/05/2012 8:14:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: ZULU

This is complete BS. This queer was never abused and is simply looking for attention for his mental disorder.


48 posted on 10/05/2012 8:14:30 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: reegs; max americana; norcal joe

Here is the current sequence for the various Scouting organizations: 1st grade (age 6) - Tiger Cub to Bobcat; 2d grade (age 7) - Cub Scout, Wolf rank; 3d grade (age 8) - Cub Scout, Bear rank; 4th grade (age 9) - Webelos, 1st year; 5th grade (age 10) - Webelos, 2d year, transition to Boy Scouts at age 10-1/2, usually in the spring of the 4th grade; Boy Scouts, up to age 18, ranks Tenderfoot to Eagle; Venture Scouting (coed), outdoor adventure program, ages 14-21; Explorers (coed), career exploration (aka Learning for Life) for ages 14-21.

As to this person’s “Eagle project”, I agree with those who think it is woefully short of the project requirements I knew when I was a Scoutmaster and Troop Committee Chair. It never should have been approved by the troop or the District Advancement committee. The primary reason it does not appear to meet the requirements is the lack of a leadership element. He did this pretty much on his own.


49 posted on 10/05/2012 8:14:40 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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>> Between the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, you have the Webelos...

Hmm... “Webelos”... maybe that’s what attracted this Andreson kid. Only he didn’t think it was spelled like that...


50 posted on 10/05/2012 8:15:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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