Skip to comments.Dems hope Biden can blunt Romney momentum post-debate (desperation)
Posted on 10/05/2012 7:37:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark
Democratic strategists are eyeing the forthcoming debate between Vice President Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) with a mix of hope and nervousness in the wake of President Obamas widely panned performance in his initial encounter with Mitt Romney Wednesday night.
On the plus side, some Democrats feel that a strong performance from Biden next Thursday could turn the page on the presidents near-debacle in Denver.
But they also worry that Bidens legendary capacity to state his views in an inartful fashion could backfire. More prosaically, there is the possibility that the vice-presidential clash will be an insignificant sideshow, which would mean that Obama might have to wait until the second presidential debate on Oct. 16 before righting his ship.
Across the Democratic ranks, the reverberations from the presidents poor showing were clearly still being felt Thursday.
Republican consultant Dan Judy said of the Biden-Ryan clash, it will be entertaining but I dont think it is likely to change voters minds.
For Judy, unlike the Democratic strategists, that would suit him just fine:
The president isnt going to really have a chance to get his footing back until that second debate with Gov. Romney. He has never really found himself in that position in any campaign he has run, Judy said. It is going to be fascinating to see if he has the resilience to deal with it.
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Desperation to the max.
I am sure Bidenw will pull some sort of stunt on Ryan..hope Ryan is expecting it.
I think someone’s confusing insanity for desperation.
And the Japanese thought the kamikazes would blunt the US Navy's momentum, post-Saipan.
“Dems hope Biden can blunt Romney momentum post-debate”
Damn, they’re in worse shape than I thought if they’re counting on that moron for help.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer barrel of snakes.
Old Joe won't even know what hit him after the first 2 minutes. They will need a wet vac to clean up after that one.
Bet your bottom dollar that the Democrats are mourning the fact that they did not replace Biden on the ticket months ago. Dan Quayle is Albert Einstein in comparison to this moron.
Don’t kid yourself. Biden is a very good speaker and CAN beat out Romney. Be cautious. Remember, it’s the media’s game.
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LOLOLOL! Obviously these “Dems” don’t know Paul Ryan! He will take no prisoners when he squares off with ol’ Joe.
Whoops....Biden can beat out Ryan...and/or Romney.
Any organization depending on Joe Biden for much more than bringing the bratwurst and beer is an organization in trouble.
I should add that Ryan will slaughter Joe with grace, with facts, and with a smile on his face.
Is this the Friday Silliness Thread?
Never put hope and Biden together and expect nothing but fail.
Biden? Keep on the pressure.
We gotta stay humble and focused...
Proverbs 16:18 (KJV)
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Biden is an idiot, but cannot be underestimated. He will be baiting Ryan big time. Ryan needs to be SHARP.
Ryan needs to assume there's a high probability that Biden will know what the quetions are beforehand, and that they will be calculated to put him on the defensive. There is more than enough evidence of collusion between the journalists and the Obama campaign to warrant suspicion this will be a setup.
Lets not build up expectations sky high for Ryan and super low for Biden, works to the enemedia’s/’rats advantage.
There is the chance that Biden can explain and convince us ALL that another $1 Trillion in taxes is good for the economy...
And they think Obama got shellacked, just wait.
Ryan can pull a stunt on Slo Joe by asking him exactly how 833,000 jobs were created in Sept. and what kind of jobs.
I think the best approach for Ryan is to be calm and stick to the numbers.
The undecided voters will get tired of Biden's yelling and bullying, and recognize how sharp Ryan is.
You know the ship is sinking when you have to rely on Biden for anything.
Good news for Biden is obozo set the bar really low.
Pray for America
>> I am sure Biden will pull some sort of stunt on Ryan...
(Fake raspy voice, muffled by talking through a handkerchief):...yeah, hello, Gwen? This is Gwen Ifill? yeah [snif] this is Joe... Joe Biden. Say Gwen... I’m not feeling so good [cough] an’ I don’t wanna give this to anyone, you know, so I’m not gonna be able to come in for tonight’s debate...
It’s to be expected. It’s their standard procedure to whip up some media -generated hysteria to distract or play down from their mistakes, and dirty dealings.
Now that's just got to make dems all warm, fuzzy, and comfy.
Well, maybe, but he is debating Ryan.
Your hate for Romney has finished your last firing brain synapse.
Comatose is one step removed from room temperature.
Whatever they’re smoking over at the WH must be some seriously out of this world stuff. I think there’s more than arugula growing out there in the garden.
well, we saw Ryan take apart Obama in those Youtube clips.. Biden will make a huge error and Ryan will call him on it and point out what a dimwit he is.
these are really priveledged people, these dems..they have never been called out on their lies before..
Good luck with that. /sarc
I have some gourmet popcorn on standby for that debate.
Probably not. But the contrast between Ryan and Biden and the idea of an actual, not made up as was the case with Dan Quayle, drooling moron being a "heart beat" away from the Red Phone (if it's expressed in some ads) would be good grist for the late night joke mills.
Liberals take to ridicule and laughter like a vampire takes to sunlight.
It’s absurd to think Biden, even if he’s suddenly coherent and articulate, can do anything to help Obama in the debate. He’s not debating Romney and he isn’t Obama.
This still boils down to a referendum on Obama and there’s little Plugs can say that would change things. I am hoping he manages to either say something stupid or so over the top untrue (ie “Obama is the best friend Israel ever had”) that it leaves an opening for Ryan to demolish him.
“Biden says a lot of stupid things when he’s relaxed, but during a debate, I expect he’ll be pretty sharp. He’s combative and experienced. “
YUppers. He totally smoked Palin by telling a story about his friends at the local cafe ... which had closed 20 years ago.
The worst news for the Romney/Ryan campaign was the unemployment headline. Expect Biden to use the ‘we are turning a corner’ narrative.
... oh, and repeat the lie about Romney wanting tax hikes for the middle class.
“I dont think it is likely to change voters minds.
I’m not so sure about that given the fact that joe the MOron is next in line.
It’s the Obama economic miracle! Unemployment has suddenly dropped to 7.8%! Yeah, right.
if Biden tries the “we’re turning a corner” thing using the unemployment numbers, I’d expect Ryan to smoke him by pointing out all the irregularities, the massaging and the fact that the upward revisions were 100% government jobs (private sector revisions were downward by 5000 jobs)
Oh dear lord, those poor, deluded darlings!
The only thing Joe Biden has going for him in this debate is that he has lowered peoples' expectations to the lowest point possible.
If Joe gets too overwhelmed, he can always entertain the audience with a song and dance.
When Biden debated Palin almost every word out of his mouth was a lie and nobody in the MSM reported it.
HAHA that’s like pinning your football team’s hopes to win the Superbowl on a high school quarterback.
I sure hope Ryan asks Joe the jobs question
I think it goes exactly as you predict. Biden is all mouth and no substance. Most people get that nowadays.
Paul Ryan spoke to this, and--encouragingly--reminded his audience that Biden tends to NOT make gaffes in any kind of serious setting--like debates--and did deliver a very good speech (for a liberal) at the convention.
IOW, let's expect the best but prepare for the worst--in this case the BEST from Biden!