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Romney was Kennedy—Obama was Nixon
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2012 | David Stokes

Posted on 10/05/2012 8:42:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

I will come to what I mean by the title of this column in a second—the connection between this year’s first presidential debate and the first ever such televised event more than five decades ago. But first, by all accounts, even those shared grudgingly, Mitt Romney left the University of Denver stage following the debate the other night as the clear winner. There was no knockout, but it was a lopsided decision on most scorecards.

Yet, as every Washington Redskins fan knows, what happens early in the contest is not nearly as important as what happens in the second half—and final minutes. It is more than likely that President Obama will try to bring a better game when he shares the stage with Mr. Romney on October 16th on Long Island. Stay tuned.

The danger for the Republican nominee is in the area of underestimating the president on the basis of his widely panned performance during round one. The danger for Mr. Obama is in shifting aggressively to attack mode—a strong possibility. Author Jon Meacham mentioned in a morning-after television interview that his eight-year-old daughter had asked him why the president was so mad. Anger, even thinly veiled, is a big turn-off to most voters. Jimmy Carter exhibited pious annoyance throughout his one debate with Ronald Reagan in 1980. And Reagan had the country at, “There you go again.” Disposition is actually more important than position in this narrow context—the televised debate platform.

But the thing that sticks out in my mind as I review the debate is something reminiscent of what happened during the first modern televised debate 52 years ago. That one was between Senator John F. Kennedy and Vice President Richard M. Nixon. The key was in the “candidate-cutaways”—those moments when the camera shot was on the man not speaking at the moment.

The two presidential candidates squared off on September 26, 1960. The venue was the McClurg Court television studios of WBBM Television in Chicago. There was no live audience, but both men were accompanied by a bevy of animated handlers. Historian Alan Schroeder, author of Presidential Debates: 50 Years of High-Risk TV, described the “debate in the control room” that evening: “Candidate cutaways had been a flashpoint in the lengthy and contentious pre-debate negotiations between the campaigns and the networks, but no firm guidelines had emerged as to how the program would be shot.”

Kennedy’s man in the room, a former producer at that very station, Bill Wilson, rebuked Don Hewitt (later to produce 60 Minutes on CBS) that he “owed” the senator more “reaction shots.” Hewitt countered that he had actually cut away from Kennedy more than he had from Nixon. But what Kennedy’s man wanted was more cutaways to the vice president, because they highlighted Nixon as “haggard” and “the lines on his face seemed like gashes,” not to mention that he “gave a fearful look.”

In stark and stunning contrast, Jack Kennedy was consistently “attentive, alert, with a suggestion of a smile on his lips.” Sound familiar? That’s pretty much a description of every camera shot of Mitt Romney as he listened (and watched) Barack Obama.

As a footnote to what happened back in 1960, the television cameras at WBBM had been outfitted with new tubes just a day earlier. The result was a crisper picture, one that served to accent Nixon’s on-camera deficiencies that night: paleness, heavy beard, and an ill-chosen and loose fitting suit and shirt.

Of course, technology is now light-years ahead of those days, as evidenced by some readers scratching their heads and asking, “what’s a television tube?” Black and white has given way to high definition, but the human factor still trumps all. Mitt Romney played JFK to Barack Obama’s Richard Nixon in their first debate. One man was engaged and animated—the other seemed detached, annoyed, and aloof.

A couple of years after that 1960 debate and his soon-after loss to Kennedy in the election, Nixon wrote a bestseller called Six Crises. He revisited that evening that turned out to be a game changer for him and the country, “I had concentrated too much on substance and not enough on appearance. I should have remembered that ‘a picture is worth a thousand words.’”

Indeed.


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1 posted on 10/05/2012 8:42:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Stop insulting Nixon


2 posted on 10/05/2012 8:45:00 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: Kaslin

The interesting thing that the author leaves out is that at the time of the 1960 debate RADIO listeners scored the debate in Nixon’s favor because of the depth of his answers. The TV viewers were swayed by the younder Kennedy and the fact that Nixon began to sweat on his upper lip from the studio lights.

This was the beginning of the TV-era style over substance issue.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 8:51:21 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: Kaslin

That’s a flawed analogy because people who listened to the Kennedy Nixon debate said that Nixon won and people who watched said Kennedy won.

I can’t stand looking at 0, so I intentionally just listened.
If possible, 0 sounded even worse just listening to him.
0 is a truly stupid, vapid, and drug addled empty suit, and that was painfully obvious without the visual distraction.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 8:53:51 AM PDT by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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To: Kaslin

Not sure I can agree.It;s been said many times that those who *listened* to the ‘60 debate thought Nixon won and those who *watched* said Kennedy won.That’s the “conventional wisdom” and,in this case,I’m inclined to agree with it.Romney,OTOH,was the clear winner the other night both to TV audiences *and* radio audiences.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 8:56:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: sillsfan

I agree. No way did zero win the radio debate.

This is a much bigger loss than Nixon’s was.


6 posted on 10/05/2012 8:57:10 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Kaslin

Well, let’s just hope that Romney doesn’t turn out to be another JFK. Not that Nixon was that great, either, having gifted us with the EPA.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 9:10:25 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Kaslin
Kennedy was pretty much Obama back then...and as one of my friends said....the media was kind to Kennedy....AND....never underestimate the southern vote.

Kennedy....just like Obama....you got conned!! Remember the Bay of Pigs!!

8 posted on 10/05/2012 9:20:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Kaslin

I hope that’s not true. Nixon’s ideas were better but Kennedy won with an image obsessed culture.


9 posted on 10/05/2012 9:28:44 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: Cicero
Well, let’s just hope that Romney doesn’t turn out to be another JFK.

Nowadays, JFK would be considered too far to the right to gain the blessings of the GOP-E. If that's the way Romney turns out, I'll be pleased beyond all expectations.

It's also less likely that Mitt would go chasing celebrity tail, so there's that.

10 posted on 10/05/2012 9:35:50 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: sillsfan
I don't know about you, but what drives me up the wall listening to Zippo is how he drags the word “AND” out.

It sounds just like a buzzer going off warning you he is about to lie to you.

You are right.

Just listening to him it's obvious he is probably the most ignorant person that has ever been in the WH. He does not have the slightest clue what he is talking about regardless of the subject.

11 posted on 10/05/2012 9:57:34 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: chargers fan
Kennedy won with an image obsessed culture.

Like barry.
12 posted on 10/05/2012 9:57:34 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Kaslin

I am amazed that Obama would make the very obvious error in his closing statement of looking at the moderator and referring to the American voters as “they”, while Romney looked into the camera at “us” and said “You” when referring to the audience at home. So Obama came off as having a conversation with Leherer ABOUT the people, while Romney had a discussion WITH the people. How could this obvious mistake be made?


13 posted on 10/05/2012 10:11:29 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: Kaslin

Ok, so how are the “independents” going to react to a President who acts like an hyper partisan attack dog? That may fire up his base, it not going to undo the damage in the middle


14 posted on 10/05/2012 10:40:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Rodm

Obama=Nixon? I stopped right there...Nothing meaningful can possibly be in this article.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 10:42:38 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Kaslin
ARTICLE from Newsmax about how Don Hewitt rigged the debate (lighting, backgrounds, room temperature) to favor Kennedy and make Nixon "look" bad.
16 posted on 10/05/2012 10:53:16 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: PaForBush

Yes, that’s right. Nixon also refused any makeup. He didn’t yet understand that makeup is essential for TV cameras to make you look anything other than undead. Between that and the five o’clock shadow, the sweat from the lights... He looked awful.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 1:16:49 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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