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Voters say Ryan will stomp Biden
washtimes ^ | 10/10/12 | s. dinan

Posted on 10/10/2012 5:13:32 AM PDT by bestintxas

Edited on 10/10/2012 5:16:32 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

If voters are right, Paul Ryan will easily out-debate Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Thursday.

The latest The Washington Times/Zogby Poll, released Monday, found 46 percent of voters think Mr. Ryan, Wisconsin Republican and a master of budget details, will overwhelm Mr. Biden. Only 30 percent thought "Sheriff Joe" would triumph.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012polls; biden
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To: Col Frank Slade
Don’t underestimate Biden as a debater. He is a slippery character who can tell bald faced lies with passion and conviction.

True. And the media won't fact-check him. He used this technique effectively against Sarah.

But Ryan will refute every lie. And who will people believe this time?

21 posted on 10/10/2012 5:41:51 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: bestintxas

The bar is being set as low as possible for Biden. Anything short of tripping and smacking his head on the podium will be considered a wild success. (Is it mean to say I LOVE that mental image??)


22 posted on 10/10/2012 5:42:38 AM PDT by PLK
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To: bestintxas

The bar is being set as low as possible for Biden. Anything short of tripping and smacking his head on the podium will be considered a wild success. (Is it mean to say I LOVE that mental image??)


23 posted on 10/10/2012 5:42:43 AM PDT by PLK
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To: bestintxas
Why are you so upset then?

I'm not upset, I simply offered an opinion that Biden will be a tougher opponent than Obama. You're the one playing democrat and throwing out strawmen.
24 posted on 10/10/2012 5:44:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RandallFlagg
Be careful as you could choke eating popcorn while laughing. I'm looking forward to this more than I anticipated "Airplane 2". Hope Ryan has a good sense of humor as I expect comedy gold from Biden.
25 posted on 10/10/2012 5:49:47 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: bestintxas
Uh, you could have said the same about McCain and Obama, couldn’t you?

Well, if 40 years in Washington made Biden any smarter, he would have been the Democratic nominee in 2008, wouldn't he? And Obama his veep? But Paslin wasted him in their debate, didn't she?

Trouble is, Biden was not in Washington on the basis of his mental abilities, he was there at the pleasure of the people of Delaware. Doesn't that tell you something about the intelligence of the people of Delaware?

26 posted on 10/10/2012 5:54:12 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: imardmd1
Trouble is, Biden was not in Washington on the basis of his mental abilities, he was there at the pleasure of the people of Delaware. Doesn't that tell you something about the intelligence of the people of Delaware?

One minor correction--it's not "the people of Delaware", it's the "people of NORTHERN Delaware".

We in southern Delaware cannot stand the man. The northern half of the state is blue, the bottom is red. Unfortunately, they outnumber us up north.

27 posted on 10/10/2012 5:58:35 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: bestintxas
Barack Obama was a guest at the 1991 wedding of ABC senior foreign correspondent and vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz.

This "debate" will be the Martha and Joe Show versus Paul Ryan.

28 posted on 10/10/2012 5:59:13 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: bestintxas
Only 30 percent thought "Sheriff Joe" would triumph.

"Sheriff Joe"? They've GOT to be kidding!!

29 posted on 10/10/2012 5:59:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (I'm no racist!! I just hate white folks!!! - BHO 2007)
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To: All

This not good news, but i am still optimistic. It will come down to how well Ryan can negate Biden’s smoothly and confidently delivered lies. He must do so agressively.


30 posted on 10/10/2012 6:02:10 AM PDT by PAR
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To: bestintxas

I don’t think I’ll watch but I look forward to the commentary. I simply cannot stand to listen to Blowhard Joe when he gets rolling with that lying, arrogant condescension he’s so good at, and I know he’s going to unload a truckful of it onto Ryan tomorrow.


31 posted on 10/10/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: bestintxas

Seems to me Biden has two options.
Either, get angry and lie a lot. The media reports he is passionate and cares about the “middle class”.
Or, act extremely magnanimous and lie a lot. Then media can say what a good guy ol’ Joe is.


32 posted on 10/10/2012 6:04:42 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: bestintxas
I think Ryan will win, my only real concern is his lack of debate experience at that level. Remember Biden ran for president on the democrat ticket in both 1988 and 2008 and participated in many debates (not to mention the VP debate with Palin).

However, regardless of what happens, the fact of the matter is the VP debates have virtually no impact on the race...(Lloyd Benson destroyed Dan Quayle in the 1988 debate in a drubbing that might have been worse than Romney/Obama and Bush still went on to win in a landslide)

33 posted on 10/10/2012 6:06:57 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Col Frank Slade

“Don’t underestimate Biden as a debater. He is a slippery character who can tell bald faced lies with passion and conviction.”

I agree. Ever since his debate 4 years ago, I have said that ‘he lies with such conviction’. And I mean he can fabricate a story out of thin air, and passionatley talk about it, with confidence. He will not stutter and stammer like Obama...he knows there is very little penalty for saying something false or incorrect, only a penalty for not looking sure of himself. If you think about it, he has to lie to himself every day, when he looks in the morror...and tell himself he’s not a punchline in a bad joke.

He’s good at it. But I am very impressed with Ryan. He should be well prepared. And, frankly, the ‘optics’ of Joe Biden aren’t that good these days. After 90 minutes, his makeup is going to make him look like a cadaver...and he’s got the ‘crazy eyes’.


34 posted on 10/10/2012 6:23:34 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: exit82
We in southern Delaware cannot stand the man. The northern half of the state is blue, the bottom is red. Unfortunately, they outnumber us up north.

You may have something there -- Joe could get home for supper on the commuter train -- it's only 100 miles to Wilmington.

But in Southern Delaware he could have gotten there sooner, and have fried chicken and oysters with baked pineapple dessert. (I got the baked pineapple recipe from a lady in Felton, and won the "Teddy Crocker" men's dessert cookery competition at church with it. Yum.)

Now, that would have been smarter.

35 posted on 10/10/2012 6:27:12 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: exit82

Anyone get to the bottom of Joe’s college football career?

He said he played college ball but it was flag football. Didn’t he say he played against Ohio State??


36 posted on 10/10/2012 6:28:51 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bestintxas
Ryan has the truth behind him and joe has lies.

LLS

37 posted on 10/10/2012 6:30:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Only 30 percent thought "Sheriff Joe" would triumph.

"Sheriff Joe"? They've GOT to be kidding!!

I've been calling him "Clueless Joe." ("Say it ain't so, Joe!")

38 posted on 10/10/2012 6:30:34 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Col Frank Slade

Biden may surprise; he might already know the questions whereas Ryan will have to come up with answers. I am still confident in Ryan, but don’t underestimate the opponent. Plugs can be slick. Just look at how long he’s been a politician.


39 posted on 10/10/2012 6:31:57 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: imardmd1

See, you know southern Delaware!

It’s the most northern part of the South, bounded on two sides by the Mason-Dixon line.


40 posted on 10/10/2012 6:37:41 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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