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We've Gotten To The Bottom Of The Mysterious Jobless Claims Report!
businessinsider.com ^ | 10-11-12 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 10/11/2012 10:55:29 AM PDT by rawhide

Well, we're glad to say that we've finally gotten to the bottom of what happened.

We spoke to a source at the Labor Department. According to this source, who is an analyst at the Department, here's what happened:

ALL STATES WERE INCLUDED in this week's jobless claims. Assertions that "a large state" was excluded from the report are patently false. HOWEVER...

It is likely that some of the jobless claims in one large state--California--were not included in the claims reported to the Department of Labor this week. This happens occasionally, our source says. When a state's jobless claims bureau is short-staffed, sometimes the state does not process all of the claims that came in during the week in time to get them to the DOL. The source believes that this is what happened this week. The California claims that were not processed in time to get into this week's jobless report will appear in future reports, most likely next week's or the following week's. In other words, those reports might be modestly higher than expected.

The source believes that the number of California claims that were not processed totalled about 15,000-25,000. Thus, if one were to "normalize" the overall not-seasonally-adjusted jobless claims number, it would increase by about 15,000-25,000.

This week's "normalized" jobless claims number, therefore, would be about 355,000-365,000, not the 339,000 that was reported. This compares to the 370,000 consensus expectation.

In other words, had all of California's jobless claims been processed in time to make the jobless-claims release, this jobless number would still have been better than economists were expecting--but not as much better as it appeared.

Again, the as-yet-unprocessed claims will appear in future reports. So next week's number may well be higher than expected.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: jobless
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To: rawhide
According to the author, they verified the numbers with "a source" in the Labobor department... "a source"... that would be ONE PERSON... Which person... how objective is that person... might that person be a Democrat? Considering that the author is a frequent guest on MSNBC, CNN and NPR, might this author also be a Democrat? Where is the evidence that backs up the claim that any skewing of numbers is related to a single weeks data that is missing from a single state? The author has offered no tangible evidence to verify that these numbers are, in fact, for the most part accurate. He is just forwarding words from a single individual. "No need to dwell on this folks, no fire here, move along". As we all know, people never lie, do they?

I am more inclined to believe Jack Welsh, who says that in order to have the huge jump in employment that these numbers represent, we would see a booming ecomomy. That there would be other noticble ecomomic indicators that we were finally recovering. Until I see persons with gravatas, like Jack Welsh, saying that they can see indicators of a recovery, I'm going to be prone to look askance at improbable numbers like these coming out of Obama's government departments.

21 posted on 10/11/2012 11:32:38 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: rawhide

So it is known for a fact that the unemployment rate is NOT 7.8% at this time. They don’t know what it is, but it’s higher.


22 posted on 10/11/2012 11:40:10 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: rawhide
The emperor is not naked.

He just neglected to include his clothes.

23 posted on 10/11/2012 11:41:44 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: DCBurgess58

What really happened was the government workers who were responsible for retrieving the data were to busy RETRIEVING THE SECURITY FORCES from BENGAZI.


24 posted on 10/11/2012 11:42:21 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: ptsal
ONE of the ingredients, this is not Rode Island or Alaska. This is California. It is 10% of the entire population of the country. It is also a state with one of the highest unemployment rates in the country and has been mired in a four year depression!
25 posted on 10/11/2012 11:50:18 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: rawhide
This happens occasionally, our source says. When a state's jobless claims bureau is short-staffed . . .


             

26 posted on 10/11/2012 11:54:41 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Mich Patriot
"Color me SKEPTICAL AS HELL."

I bet it happened in more than one state too.

27 posted on 10/11/2012 12:25:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: LibertarianLiz
"Okay, so, when was the last time this happened?"

Good question. Maybe when Carter was the incumbent and Reagan was mopping the floor with him?

28 posted on 10/11/2012 12:46:33 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: CityCenter

“Seems like bad news for Obama to me. Those numbers will inflate future reports closer to the election. How sad is that? /s”

I works great for O...after a quiet upward revision of this week’s report, next week’s will be a ‘drop’ again.


29 posted on 10/11/2012 12:57:48 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: rawhide
We spoke to a source at the Labor Department. According to this source, who is an analyst at the Department, here's what happened:.............

Did he add "Yeah, that's the ticket" after his little explanation?

30 posted on 10/11/2012 1:04:51 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: ptsal
Well, the books are not "cooked".

Or, the books were cooked and the lashback was much stronger than the BLS expected so they made up the Calif story.

31 posted on 10/11/2012 1:53:43 PM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: CodeToad

How in the world are these people surviving if Colordo is 2 MONTHS behind in processing new unemployment claims?


32 posted on 10/12/2012 9:45:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: rawhide

SSDD.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 9:48:12 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Hopefully by not living paycheck to paycheck in the first place.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 10:08:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Publius Maximus
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Translation: “We did NOT, I repeat NOT, exclude any data. We did however include the absence of certain data.”

...the absence of certain data...

That really has a Catch-22 ring to it... thanks

35 posted on 10/12/2012 4:59:42 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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