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142nd Anniversary of Gen. Lee’s death
Canda Free Press ^ | October 12, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 10/12/2012 11:00:08 AM PDT by BigReb555

America mourned the death of Gen. Robert E. Lee on Wednesday, October 12, 1870 and Friday, October 12th marks the 142nd anniversary of his death.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: anniversary; confederate; dixie; union; virginia; wandl
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To: tenthirteen

A ‘gentleman who waged war on his own country? A gentleman who fought a war so Southern plutocrats could maintain slavery? Jeez your stands aren’t very high.


41 posted on 10/12/2012 11:35:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Slavery existed in 1776 and as it did in 1861. ''Americas Original Sin'' It didn't take war to end it the North.
42 posted on 10/12/2012 11:41:52 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I had an ancestor in the Army of The Potomac too.Sorry but I don't see how this ‘â€&;gentlemanâ€Â™Ã¢Â€Â™ could turn against his country and fight to preserve slavery. What if Lee had been successful, what would America look like today?’’ Military brilliance’’? How brilliant is it to go to war against a numerically superior foe who could produce more of the weapons to fight a war, and how brilliant is it to go to war with virtually no navy to speak of? One of the Norths first moves was to blockade Southern ports? After being defeated at Gettysburg Vicksburg surrendered the next day. At that point the Confederacy was cut in two and it gave the Union control of the Mississippi River. From that moment the war was lost for the Confederacy. A smart man would have realized that. Instead the war dragged on for two more bloody years. Some brilliance.>
43 posted on 10/13/2012 12:01:13 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Who fired first?


44 posted on 10/13/2012 12:03:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: texgal

Madame, Lee himself was ‘a rude remark’’. The man took up arms against his own country. Ever give any thought as to what America would look like today if Lee had prevailed?


45 posted on 10/13/2012 12:07:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Nope, I’m talking about Lee. I would imagine the folks today in Gettysburg might be feeling differently than you do. And what is it with you Confederates anyway? America and the Stars and Stripes not good enough for you you have to keep venerating a Dixiecrat?


46 posted on 10/13/2012 12:11:42 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ohioan

Lee wasn’t drawn’’ into anything. He only had to remain loyal to the Union, to America. He made a choice, a bad one. Nobody was holding a gun to his head. Lee invaded the North in 1962? Wow. How did I miss that bit of history? ‘’Mean spirited’’? I should think the folks in Gettysburg today aren’t singing his praises. And how is condemning a Dixiecrat equate to being less of a Conservative? And’’ pulling together’’ to fight the current state of affairs in the nation? Sounds rather ironic in light of what Lincoln was trying to do.


47 posted on 10/13/2012 12:24:01 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

When you start wars, yes, the blood is on your hands.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 12:26:01 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ohioan

Beleave the surrender meeting was at the McLean house at Appomatox, not the court house


49 posted on 10/13/2012 4:23:11 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: mortal19440

General Grant accepted General Lee’s formal surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia. The actual surrender ceremony,where arms were stacked and flags furled,followed a few day later.
General Chamberlain was U.S. Army officer charged with receiving the surrender of the ANV and presided over the f surrender ceremony. General John Gordon CSA was in charge of the actual surrender of the ANV at this surrender ceremony. General Lee had departed the area a day or so earlier.


50 posted on 10/13/2012 4:31:48 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: jmacusa
Ever give any thought as to what America would look like today if Lee had prevailed?

Probably a damned site better than it does today!

51 posted on 10/13/2012 5:39:30 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Mike Darancette

Most excellent. Thanks.


52 posted on 10/13/2012 7:01:21 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: jmacusa

Actually slavery in the north did not end until after the war and after it ended in the South...thanks to the EmancProc that only applied to Confed states.


53 posted on 10/13/2012 7:08:56 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
...the hypocrisy that by denying secession, the Union and Lincoln were denying FREEDOM.

One third of the Southern population already had freedom denied it. The other two thirds were bound and determined to make sure it stayed that way. I'd say hypocrisy was just as prevalent in the Southern cause as you say it was in the Northern cause.

54 posted on 10/13/2012 7:10:57 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: texgal

Amen! Slavery in the South would have died a natural death as it did every where else in the western world and northern states would be more of a socialist hell than it is today. The South would still be the soul of our warrior nation and Yankees would be discriminating against blacks even more than today.


55 posted on 10/13/2012 7:16:06 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Delhi Rebels

And you’d be wrong given that slavery was a U.S institution and would (and for a while, did) continue to exist in the U.S. You have to be intellectually honest and admit that the war was fought to preserve the union, NOT free slaves, just as Lincoln said.


56 posted on 10/13/2012 7:35:03 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: texgal

How do you possibly conclude that? A “nation” conceived and constructed on the breech of promise? A country outfitted by the theft from their parent nation? A nation built upon the promise of eternal subjugation of their fellow man? Where is the honor in any of that?

Not to mention a country that, by virtue of its own actions guaranteed strife and conflict with its neighbors in perpetuity?

The little den of thieves could never have lasted and would have been a horror-house for all concerned.


57 posted on 10/13/2012 8:57:35 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Lee'sGhost

When you state it that way you leave 99% of the truth unspoken. In reality slavery had either been abolished in every northern state by 1804 or the process of eventual abolition had been defined. This was done independently by each state. They didn’t have to have the weight of the federal government force a solution upon them. They did it of their own accord because it was the right thing to do.

The Emancipation Proclamation did free slaves in states that were in open rebellion. It is true that slavery was prohibited federally by virtue of the Thirteenth Amendment.


58 posted on 10/13/2012 9:10:50 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: texgal

Well, I guess you’ll just have to put up with, won’t you?


59 posted on 10/13/2012 9:58:22 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

After the end of the Revolution slavery ended in the North.


60 posted on 10/13/2012 10:01:01 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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