Posted on 10/13/2012 6:49:46 PM PDT by Eric
Have you all noticed that whenever there is bad news Hillary is never anywhere to be found?
This is just one of many examples. State dept employee killed and the head of state is no where to be found for comments. That should be a story in itself.
Rant away...lol
One of the first guys who did it was named Pulitzer. We see how that's gone!
I don’t think your times are right.
Isn’t Libyan time ahead of US time?
That 9:30 p.m. attack in Libya happened in the middle of the afternoon here.
If 0 was asleep, which he well may have been, it was an afternoon nap.
THE TALIBAN IS INSIDE THE BUILDING, indeed.....and don’t forget Barack HUSSEIN Obama along with Huma, Hillary, Valerie, etc.
and gamer “vile rat” (Smith) alerted his fellow gamers that he saw a man in uniform suspiciously taking photos. He signed off at 1 pm EST which if I calculate correctly was 8 pm...
So the gamers knew an attack might be coming before the State department....one wonders what happened inside after he signed off and before the sudden attack hit.
Sets up a telling timeline, IMHO.
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According to Col. Hunt (Fox News contributor and Howie Carr regular) as soon as the alert button in the U.S. Libyan Consulate (U.S. sovereign territory) was pushed signaling that it was being attacked a dozen or more monitoring units through-out the world (European, African, Nato, U.S. States Dept. in DC area, etc.) were alerted and instant monitoring began (including the audio and video being sent [real time] from the Consulate’s security cameras and the on air voice transmission of Ambassador Steven’s aide. With-in MINUTES protocol dictates that The President be alerted, the Sec. of Defense, the Sec. of State, the heads of the CIA, FBI, etc. be alerted ... the monitoring took place for the entire six hours that the attack lasted.
The 09/11/12 terrorist attack [on U.S. sovereign ground], assassination and murders began at 9:30 PM Libyan time = 3:30 AM Eastern U.S. time. Apparently, when that “3 AM Phone Call” came-in ... President 0bama turned-over and went back to sleep as did Sec. of State Clinton.
1 posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:49:55 PM by Eric
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11
5:00 pm
The President and the Vice President meet with Secretary of Defense
Oval Office
Closed Press
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From ptbor’s links:
Later in the afternoon, the President and the Vice President will meet with Secretary of Defense Panetta in the Oval Office. This meeting is closed to the press
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12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, at the White House.
Obama was informed about the developments in Libya by his National Security Adviser Tom Donilon as the president began a weekly meeting Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey. The White House said Obama was kept apprised throughout the evening and then again Wednesday morning.
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The U.S. embassy in Egypt had tried to pre-empt the attack, issuing a statement hours earlier that condemned “the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.” Embassy officials also called Nader Bakkar, a spokesman for the conservative Islamist Nour party, in which they apologized for the film and Jones’ call, but Bakkar said he was unwilling to call off the protest, and embassy employees were sent home early.
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DRONE:
In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.
David Petraeus’s first year at the CIA
EXCERPT
Petraeus was well-known as a commander for fastening on “big ideas.” He has just floated to employees a new strategic plan that focuses on ways for the agency to exploit new technology more effectively.
The measure of any CIA director is operations, and Petraeus’s instincts here have reflected his military background. In Yemen, Petraeus improved coordination with the military on drone attacks and other operations. The CIA and the military (not always good partners) have shared intelligence, personnel and even hardware.
Petraeus is also said to have pushed hard in Libya, rushing case officers there to work with the opposition. Making this surge work fell to John Bennett, the head of the operations directorate. A blunt, tough officer who had planned to leave with Panetta, Bennett is said to have complained that he occasionally felt he was in a “hostile work environment.” But Bennett was able to pull officers from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.
FLASHBACK:
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/23/john-bennett-cia-appointment-is-a-mistake/
John Bennett CIA appointment (Director of the National Clandestine Services) is a mistake
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Violent Anti-American Protests Across the Middle East
FOX News Channel - Friday, September 14, 2012
Show: FOX ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA VAN SUSTEREN
Author: Greta Van Susteren, John Bolton, Leland Vittert
EXCERPT
VAN SUSTEREN: A day of deep mourning for all of us, for four American, including our ambassador, cruelly murdered in Libya, their bodies arriving home in the United States today. President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton taking part in a somber ceremony for U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and his three colleagues.
Meanwhile, Americans are under attack across the globe, protests against the United States breaking out in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Nigeria, Sudan, and moving east to Yemen, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan. And the protests continuing further east to India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, and even in London, where protesters burn mesh and Israeli flags. Now, this is getting worse. Today, CIA Director David Petraeus briefing member of the House Intelligence committee on this international crisis. Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger is the ranking Democrat on that committee. He joins us. Nice to see you, sir.
REP. DUTCH RUPPERSBERGER, (D) MARYLAND: Glad to be here, Greta.
VAN SUSTEREN: Let me ask you about the ambassador Stevens in Libya. Do you know if he was targeted, if they were trying to kill him? Or if he was the accidental victim — obviously a murder?
RUPPERSBERGER: There are two issues here. Number one, the actual protest started as a result of the cleric who had the film that attacked the Muslim religion, and then the protests started in Egypt. When it got into Libya, things changed. Libya and Bangladesh, where this occurred is very primitive area.
So we are not sure whether the protest went viral and whether an extremist group like Al Qaeda realized there was a protest and got their guns and weapons and took advantage of the situation, or whether it was preplanned. We haven’t determined the facts, but it could go either way as far as I’m concerned.
VAN SUSTEREN: When talking to director the CIA today, do you have a sense that we — that there is so much information, we don’t know, or is there a sense that we really know what happened and we on the path to get those people?
RUPPERSBERGER: I think number one, first priority by the way is to make sure all Americans, wherever they are, throughout the world are safe. What we are doing is making sure that we contact the heads of all countries that it is part of the international code that when you have an embassy in another country, that they provide protection.
We provide our own protection. We want to protect our Americans. That’s what we are doing. So that’s the first thing. But where we are going with this, at this point, we still have to get the facts and data. It’s been three days.
VAN SUSTEREN: There have been so rumors that the United States has some sort of tipoff or some knowledge that something was happening. Obviously, this happened on 9/11. So it has, you know, added significance for us. Was there any idea, any notification to put us on alert?
RUPPERSBERGER: It is my understanding that information was given to the embassy in Cairo about the film and that there could be a backlash as a result of that. That’s all I know at this time.
VAN SUSTEREN: Let me get back to the question. The film seems a cover for someone to go in and kill our four in Libya. It seems a pretext of some sort.
RUPPERSBERGER: Those of us in the intelligence have been dealing with Al Qaeda for at least since 9/11. And Al Qaeda will take advantage of any situation and they will take credit for many situations. But they are dangerous. They are well organized —
VAN SUSTEREN: They seemed ready for this. I mean, once the protests broke out in Egypt, if this is Al Qaeda in Libya, they were ready to move very quickly.
RUPPERSBERGER: I think they were flowered Libya. Remember, where is Libya? It’s like the Wild West was in the United States years ago. There are people who have open trucks with machine guns and weapons on them all the time. So it would be very easy for people who were — who were fighting the government at one time and Gadhafi and they would — they all have weapons. And that’s part of the concern. It’s a very young government, starting out, and there is not — their police, and they’re not trained. They are not trained to do what they need to do to protect people.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a sense that the killers, that let’s go in there and we will kill whoever is there, or did you get the sense, let’s kill the ambassador?
RUPPERSBERGER: I think once they realized the protest was there, that the people were sophisticated enough with the ammunition that they had, that they were going to do damage to whoever was in there. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation because of the fire.
VAN SUSTEREN: He wasn’t tortured?
RUPPERSBERGER: From my understanding, he wasn’t tortured. That’s what we know at this point. But whether or not they knew he was in there, but then we now have to look at why this occurred. Did he have body guards there? We do know that the area there was primitive. It was make-shift because the government had just been set up. This, in my opinion, would not have happened in the embassy Tripoli.
Thank you for the links.
It sounds like Hillary was in town.
One link also confirms something I said early on, which was that the Cairo embassy staff had vacated the premises before the protest.
Also, it clears up the misperception that the Cairo embassy made their apologetic statement hours before the protest, not after.
Ah did something happen in Bangladesh? Ok I know it was a misspeak. Whether she was suppose to or not, Charlene Lamb told Congress that Obama's government was aware in real time the destruction and killing in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. From this it does appear that Petraeus was in on the cover-up. WHY? And what is it they need to cover up? The answer sure is not the 'Republicans cut funding', one more big lie.
I want to know if that film maker is an American citizen. Very curious how first reports on him, call him to be not who he apparently really is. What is his real country of origin? I notice that Egypt has not been demanding his return to be prosecuted... and yet Obama's Egyptian allies have been reported to be demanding the return of that blind criminal cleric.
Maybe this is the service Stevens was working under.
Chris Stevens (wiki): He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya
Does New Defense Clandestine Service Spell Big Changes for Military Intelligence?
Noah O. Braymen - May 8, 2012
The Pentagon is pulling together hundreds of officers from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) to create an intelligence service called the Defense Clandestine Service (DCS). The DCS is tasked with gathering terrorist network information, weapons of mass destruction, and other rising threats. Michael Vickers, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and John D. Bennett, CIA counterpart leading the National Clandestine Service, arranged the various elements of the service. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta approved their plan on Friday, April 20, 2012.
This service will be composed of both military and civilian officers, and it will work alongside the CIA. According to Rep. C. A. Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, the DCS plans are still in progress, but it will emphasize and expand the Pentagon’s human intelligence agencies. Particularly, it will focus on gathering information through personal contact with sources, not on the interception of communications along the lines of the NSA agencies based at Fort Meade.
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Thats the question that puts the lie to this attack being due to lack of (GOP) funding for security.
If that post could NOT be defended (for lack of funding, or more realistically, for lack of budgeting and prioritization of the existing funding)
Then the US Ambassador SHOULD NOT have been there.
WTF was he thinking? He could have been on a jet back to DC anytime he really felt he was not adequately protected, and he (and HRC’s State Department planners) should have had a plan to get the US Ambassador smuggled out of Libya by trusted assets if the shft..
It seems he was lifelong arabist who was dangerously naive about how “loved” he was by his “friends” in those Libyan militias. HRC’s State department is more adept at planning homosexual receptions than life-or-death escape contingency plans for our ambassadors and staff during acts of war.
The Ambassador’s final hours must have been absolutely horrifying.
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First, they are libtards. Second, they don’t give a rat’s ass about our military or the state of this nation. They are just grinding us down for the next cycle of communism if they get back in.
I am reminded of how all the liberal leftists screamed bloody murder when Cheney had a similar cadre of intelligence gathering operatives from the pentagon.....now Panetta and the leftists double down on the same type of operation and not a word from the usual suspects. Same thing with our war dead, Gitmo, patriot act and the list goes on and on. We have drones over American cities and the TSA groping people for cryin out loud. Not a word.
Go figure.
Do you see MSM covering this?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/19/aclu-us-drone-programme-court
ACLU takes CIA to court as agency denies existence of drone programme
Despite references by president and defence secretary, CIA has refused FOIA request on grounds it cannot confirm drone use
Of course not. Our American media is beyond hope or change now. I don’t trust any of them!!
Thanks for all the links. I keep hoping something big is going to drop on this whole deal. There are patriots that know the truth....it is ime for some major leaks and whistleblowing!!
It is up to us - FReeperMedia - to connect the dots the MSM refuses/is too lazy to.
And I doubt that the media will make a serious effort to press her for answers. Could she pull that off if she was POTUS?
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