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Hillary Throws Obama Under The Bus
Ace of Spades ^ | 10/16 | Ace of Spades

Posted on 10/16/2012 7:40:41 AM PDT by RummyChick

Last night from the relative safety of Lima, Peru Hillary Clinton announced that when it comes to the Benghazi disaster the buck stops with her (sort of).

Many have taken this as a sign Hilary is taking the fall for Obama and letting him off the hook. I have a a different theory....David Axlerod tried to throw her under the bus and she tossed it right back on him and Obama.

What Hillary has done is basically say, "the damn phone is ringing and President Creased Trousers isn't answering it so give it to me. She comes off as the grown up who said, look I'm in charge here and for good or ill that makes me responsible".

People tend to admire others who stand up and take the hits. Hillary looks like A-the loyal soldier and B-the only one who is going to stand up and say, "something awful happened on my watch and I'm going to look in the mirror to see who is in charge and not like some other people I could name, look around for scapegoats".

Hillary isn't taking the blame, she's taking the credit.

Now a lot of this is hypocritical because Hillary already tried casting the blame elsewhere but when all else fails, it's sometimes better to own it in the end.

How does this hurt Obama? Well tonight he will be standing next to Mitt Romney. Romney you might recall has made a rather big stink about Obama's failure to lead and his own stellar leadership record.

Here's how he might play this when Benghazi comes up (or he brings it up himself)..."It's all well and good that Secretary Clinton is taking responsibility but my leadership experience has taught me that only the person at the top of the organization is truly responsible. President Obama is at the top of the Executive Branch and he's ducking responsibility. I'd like to know if the President agrees with the Secretary and if he does, why hasn't he asked for her resignation? If he doesn't agree, why doesn't he say who is responsible? Most importantly, why hasn't he taken responsibility from Day 1. Harry Truman didn't say the buck stopped at the Department of State, it stopped at his desk in the Oval Office."

And then it will get ugly for Obama when Romney ads, "And who does the President blame for the failure of his policies to get this economy going? The Secretary of the Treasury? Maybe he blames you the voters for not paying enough in taxes. This country needs a President who accepts the responsibility that comes with the job and doesn't blame his subordinates."

Obama will have no answer to any of that. He also can't fire Hillary because that would cause problems with Team PUMA and his administration would be in disarray 3 weeks before the election

He can't suddenly say, "Oh no, it's me not Hillary who is responsible" because A-he doesn't believe that and B-It's too late. She beat him to the punch, he'll look like he's scrambling to catch up (which he would be).

Mitt's been running a campaign based on his leadership and Obama's unwillingness and inability to lead. The second most popular (maybe the most popular) Democrat in the country, who happens to be Obama's own Secretary of State, just co-signed that charge by stepping into the vacuum Obama's cowardice created.

What Hillary has done is hand Mitt a baseball bat, turned him in the direction of the giant Obama pinata on stage tonight and said, "Have at buddy. Maybe I'll see you in four years".

And what's the downside to Hillary? None. No one is really going to hold her responsible. The DMM (Democratic Machine Media) won't. The GOP certainly won't (update: as predicted) and Obama can't. She'll be hailed as "presidential", "the one official willing to stand up and take responsibility" and ironically enough, a "good soldier".

Don't forget, Hillary has seen a variation on this play work before. Remember Janet Reno taking the blame for Waco? Clinton looked weak and Reno owned him for the rest of his presidency.

Sure it's kabuki theater and there are still plenty of outstanding questions (who said "hey, let's blame a protest about some tape" among them) but the story will be the debate and if Romney can use it to put Obama back on his heels. By the time Hillary gets back in the country the story and the campaign will have moved on and the damage to Obama will be done.

Maybe Hillary didn't do all of this on purpose (but why wait until now to do this?) but intentionally or not, she's teed this up for Mitt. Will he hit it?


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1 posted on 10/16/2012 7:40:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

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The moment Hillary took the blame, I figured amemo/email/something would be leaked be an “anonymous source” to prove the admin was specifically told early on. It’s just too perfect. Hillary takes him down and looks like the one who “took the blame” when it wasn’t her fault.

Posted by: Davey Boy at October 16, 2012 09:13 AM (GpWMQ)


2 posted on 10/16/2012 7:41:43 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

All well and good, but the REAL story is the “movie lie” that Obama and all of his minions right down to Tim Carney tried to sell us. It was a bare-faced lie, and coverup.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 7:44:59 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: RummyChick
While I'm not sure that she's taking "credit" as it were, it was interesting hearing, in her own voice, on the radio this morning, "The president doesn't make those decisions. The vice-presideent doesn't make those decisions. I do."

She didn't limit it to one incident or one failure. She went out there and told everyone what her job description was -- and more importantly, what his was NOT.

4 posted on 10/16/2012 7:45:07 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: RummyChick

She also went to Peru, which effectively forces the White House to answer the questions. Well played.


5 posted on 10/16/2012 7:46:05 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: RummyChick

I said about a month ago that the best way for the Clintons to sabotage Obama (and to try to take the party back for themselves) would be for Hillary to find an excuse to resign right before the election. Like like The Won has given her that opportunity wrapped up with a nice bow...


6 posted on 10/16/2012 7:47:06 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: RummyChick

This does make Hillary look like the grown-up in all this, and makes Obama the goat.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 7:51:34 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: RummyChick

I thought the same thing last night when I read this announcement. The timing of this is not about Hillary taking the blame and being thrown under the bus it is about Hillary outing the intel that is an open secret. Intel that there are listening posts all over the place and people at them heard all this mess and probably saw a lot of it. Unless you kill them all you can’t keep this secret forever.

In the process of outing the intel she is outing obastard for being just what he is... an empty suit not the least bit aware of what is going on or at least not caring what goes on.

obastard just got thrown under the bus by the clintoons in my humble opinion. I think they got fed up with him.

She knows the action is perilous and so did it from Peru. No telling what would happen in Washington. Maybe she will make it back.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 7:52:01 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: alancarp

exactly... very well played.. man, these 2 sure know the game... with a month of obfiscation, we see who is willing to wear the pants.

sheesh... it just makes him look so incredibly weak, which of course he is...

If Rush doesn’t pick up on this line of thinking then he should..I have to admit, not being a chess player, I hadn’t even thought of this. this was a brilliant stragey on Bill and Hillary’s part.


9 posted on 10/16/2012 7:52:22 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Tanniker Smith

Was she channeling Alexander Haig?


10 posted on 10/16/2012 7:52:44 AM PDT by catman67
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To: RummyChick

Payback for the 2008 Democrat Primaries and the shennanigans at the caucases. The Clintons have long political memories.


11 posted on 10/16/2012 7:53:00 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Sequoyah101
Diplomad (former State Dept. employee) has made some interesting posts about Benghazi. They are worth reading.
Someone needs to photoshop a bigger bus
12 posted on 10/16/2012 7:55:27 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That was only the first lie.

Hillary taking “respoinsibility” for this has to make people wonder just what obastard is supposed to be doing since the white hut entered the fracas with the lie. If it was Hillary’s job the white hut should have deferred all to her on this matter.... they didn’t. They stepped right in the middle of it.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 7:56:40 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: RummyChick

This is positively ‘Clinton-esque’

I wonder if Bill is behind the strategery?


14 posted on 10/16/2012 7:57:03 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: RummyChick

Great thread and read. The Clinton’s just teed it up for Romney tonight. I will be very disappointed if he doesn’t crush the Marxist with a succinct 2-3 lines about the meaning of true leadership.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 7:58:33 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: RummyChick

Hillary said she was responsible and at the same time threw whoever is in charge of security staffing under the bus.


16 posted on 10/16/2012 8:00:32 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: RummyChick
GREAT ARTICLE....right on the MARK, imo.

I love this one: ""What Hillary has done is hand Mitt a baseball bat, turned him in the direction of the giant Obama pinata on stage tonight and said, "Have at buddy. Maybe I'll see you in four years"""""

These are the CLINTONS after all, friends of no one, foe's to all.

Vast right wing conspiracy tea party people cause all this./s

17 posted on 10/16/2012 8:01:15 AM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: RummyChick

I still have comments on this of course. There are funny scenarios that could play out. We might see obastard try to take the blame for this so that he can assert that he and not Hillary is really in charge.

If I didn’t know better I’d suspect this is checkmate. He is caught in the corner with no good way out. I’m sure I’m wrong though. Axlerod has to have gamed this mess nine ways to Sunday unless Hill just did a random. Hard to game for random and what normally seem like irrational actions.


18 posted on 10/16/2012 8:01:54 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: RummyChick

I’m so glad that someone else sees Hillary’s taking responsibity for the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and the 3 other Americans as, I believe, Hillary and Bill’s “How dare you throw me under the bus, here try this on for size. I’m the adult.” I agree, Hillary just gave Mitt a big base ball bat to club Obama with. Talk about “get evenism” I may be wrong but, I can see Obama losing it tonight because Obama is a petulent child who likes to “PLAY” president but that is as far as it goes.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:11 AM PDT by kagnew (u)
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To: RummyChick
This is getting better and better with each passing day.

Romney should bring this up tonight. Who's in charge?

20 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:48 AM PDT by McGruff (I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning. Smells like victory!)
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To: RummyChick

I’m so glad that someone else sees Hillary’s taking responsibity for the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and the 3 other Americans as, I believe, Hillary and Bill’s “How dare you throw me under the bus, here try this on for size. I’m the adult.” I agree, Hillary just gave Mitt a big base ball bat to club Obama with. Talk about “get evenism” I may be wrong but, I can see Obama losing it tonight because Obama is a petulent child who likes to “PLAY” president but that is as far as it goes.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 8:03:36 AM PDT by kagnew (u)
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To: RummyChick
I believe Hillary knew that Obama would finger her tonight so she went preemptive as the least damaging way out. I do not think that Hillary and the Bamster are coordinated on this at all.

Even if Hillary is telling us some portion of the truth about requests for additional security which were either ignored or denied by the State Department and accepting as her responsibility for failing to provide it, the president of the United States had the watch. The failure of administration policy and actions, especially in foreign policy and even more especially having to do with physical security, are ultimately his exclusive responsibility. It is his responsibility for failing to manage his administration to protect Americans.

He did not do that and he probably did not do that because he did not permit himself to be informed by his intelligence community, not having consented to a briefing for six consecutive days before the murders on 911. A proactive president who had been briefed about the attacks in Libya, who had been informed in those briefings that even our own State Department advised against travel in Libya, would have pressed his intelligence sources for more information and taking prudent steps.

There was a bias up and down the line against providing physical security because it ran counter to the administration's claims that it had opened a new chapter on the war against terror, in fact it had eliminated the war as it had eliminated the word, and burly Marines in heavy boots carrying arms simply would present the wrong image.

These are just the questions of the president's culpability before the event, there is much more to be concerned about in his behavior during the event. Did the president of the United States declined to take the live phone call from the consulate as it was under attack? The allegation is the attack lasted six hours, did the President of the United States not even try to send relief? Did Obama get his 3 AM call and go back to sleep?

And then there are the questions of the culpability of the president for his behavior after the event. Why was all of this covered up? The most likely motivation being to conceal the entire disintegration of the administration's policy respecting Islam.

The president has failed the country in his responsibility to combat terrorism. We are lucky we have only 4 dead. Meanwhile, Americans are dying in Afghanistan to no purpose that I can discern except to get Obama past the election.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: RummyChick
I'm waiting for the MSM to ask some screamingly obvious questions.

With the live feed coming in from Benghazi, where was Obama, if not in the situation room? For six to eleven hours, a consulate was under attack and our ambassador was missing. Where was Obama? Where was Hillary? Was the NSC team assembled in the Situation Room? If not, why not?

What was more important? D.J. Laz, the pimp with a limp?


23 posted on 10/16/2012 8:05:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: annieokie

123 F. Chuck Todd in interviewing Carol Simpson who was teh first town hall moderator said that Benghazzi has been taken off the table for the debate.


Anyone know about this? Why can’t people ask about it


24 posted on 10/16/2012 8:05:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: catman67

Haig? Anyone the commies tried to blow up is not on the same playing field as these com simps. If you are alluding to the famous I am in control here speech of his, that was done to defuse any potential nuke confrontation with the Ruskies when Reagan was shot, not political theater.

Clinton is being Clinton...she comes first, then the party, then the country. Her move here was to try to remove the damage from the Bengazi incident without killing her hopes for a 16 run....she thinks she found the only path to do that. She did not overtly wish to bring down Ozero because her party would be outside the tent peeing in if he loses which would put a candidancy by her in jeopardy. She is hoping for an O win, he keeps her on board and then she goes out to prepare for her run to succeed him in 16 IMO. If her move fails, the party will line up behind her because she fell on the gernade, a win win for her.

It is all about politics with these vermin.


25 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:58 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: nathanbedford
Same questions I have at #23.

When will the MSM ask them?

"It's not a scandal if we don't report it."


26 posted on 10/16/2012 8:09:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RummyChick

The Hills are alive with the Sound of Mutiny.


27 posted on 10/16/2012 8:10:06 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; CaptainAmiigaf

interesting read


28 posted on 10/16/2012 8:11:10 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Chuzzlewit
It's not only what Hillary said... it's also what she didn't say... she says she takes full responsibility of the security flaws that lead up to the 9/11/12 attacks.
What happened after 9/11/12 ? Hillary leaves it a open door ( time to exit this mess ).... then the blame of what happened during the attacks and the lies, cover up is squarely placed on Obama's shoulders.
29 posted on 10/16/2012 8:11:57 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: bunkerhill7

another interesting comment:

“196 I was reading on a little blog. The blogger was remembering that BO made appointments in Hillary’s state department that reported directly to BO essentially circumventing Hillary. I don’t remember this but the little blogger was adamant about remembering this. This little blogger seemed to think this was a huge factor in this mess. But they never really explained how that could be.”

Anyone know about this?


30 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:18 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Not only did Hillary just tee this up for Mitt she also just pulled the rug out from under Obastard in regards to any retaliation.

It is obvious that the Admin was planning to shoot a missile through an empty tent and up a camels butt right before the election. Now that Hillary has taken the blame and opened Obambi up to attacks - if Mitt seizes this and beats the Kenyan about the head and shoulders with it any attack will be seen as nothing more than an attempt to deflect the criticism and a hail mary pass to get a pool bump.

Basically Hillary not only threw Obama under the bus she completely diffused any attempt at an ‘October Surprise’.

31 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:18 AM PDT by commish (After Four Years of Obama, America needs a little R & R.)
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To: bunkerhill7
"The Hills are alive with the Sound of Mutiny."

hahhh!!!!! good one!

32 posted on 10/16/2012 8:14:35 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: alancarp
She also went to Peru, which effectively forces the White House to answer the questions. Well played.

Hillary can claim to take responsibility for the lack of security in Benghazi and nothing more. When the questions come up about the You Tube video lie, and subsequent coverup of the events in Benghazi, she can tell reporters that they need to direct those questions to the White House. Also, I think there's a good chance she will resign just before the third debate (she was leaving at the end of the year anyway) and will throw Obama under the bus in her resignation speech.

33 posted on 10/16/2012 8:15:27 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: RummyChick
Here is the list of Obama appointments to the State Department.

Obama State Department Appointments

I do not know if it is customary for the President to appoint all if these positions but it does seem as though the appointment of some listed there are 'below his pay grade'.

34 posted on 10/16/2012 8:19:10 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: nathanbedford
" Why was all of this covered up? "

That's a easy answer...... it's a election year and he didn't want any political fallout that would have jeopardized his re-election chances.

And most of all....

This happened on his watch.
35 posted on 10/16/2012 8:20:57 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: liberalh8ter
Dennis Miller said the phone calls made by Stevens were picked up on Sicilian Satellite. Someone in the Obama administration probably has them already.
36 posted on 10/16/2012 8:22:12 AM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 & NY YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RummyChick

The best part from Hillary’s point of view, ist that Obozo looks like an even bigger Limp D__k than he already is.
‘If” he wins She runs in 4 years, When he loses she runs in 4 years.


37 posted on 10/16/2012 8:23:10 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: nathanbedford
Excellent synopsis.

Thank you.

Get US out of Af-crap-istan now!

38 posted on 10/16/2012 8:28:09 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: McGruff

39 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:00 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: verga

This political intrique is fascinating..but sometimes you just need a laugh. Go see my thread about Jesse Jackon Jr prancing around naked in a Turkish bath.


40 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:13 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: commish
" any attack will be seen as nothing more than an attempt to deflect the criticism and a hail mary pass to get a pool bump. "

Correction, that's poop bump, not pool bump.

If he goes and sends a few missiles into Libya hitting aspirin factories, or goat brothels, it will only give him a poop bump because it will look even more contrived than what Bill Clinton did when he got caught with a cigar and Monica.
41 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:16 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Sequoyah101
Maybe she will make it back.

As in Ron Brown?

42 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:16 AM PDT by stboz
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To: McGruff
I can't help but think of Hillary's anti-Obama ad with the phone ringing at 3:00 a.m.

        

We'll see how this plays out for Oblamer, the shirker in chief.

43 posted on 10/16/2012 8:33:04 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: commish; RummyChick; stephenjohnbanker
“Basically Hillary not only threw Obama under the bus she completely diffused any attempt at an ‘October Surprise’.”

This is a very interesting turn of events. Listen closely to EXACTLY the words (it depends on what the definition of is, is) that Hillary CLINTON uttered during the interview last night in Peru. She mentioned “in the fog of war”... What the heck was THAT suppose to mean, except to cloud the issue. IMHO she didn't admit to squat! This is another ruse by the Clintons. But yes, this is very Clintonian. Clintons hate the Obamas and vice versa. Grab the popcorn.

One question. The Pentagon also released some statement last night - what was that? Anyone know? Could the entire bunch be turning on The Won? Wouldn't THAT be sweeeet?

44 posted on 10/16/2012 8:33:10 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Paul Ryan clings to his gun, sits in his deer stand and is going to be our next VP!)
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To: stboz

Yeah, that’s the one.

Maybe what goes around comes around.

It will come as not revelation that we are dealing with some truly sick and twisted people in this administration. Neither the head nor the tail are what most would call normal. The whole gang is as dysfunctional as the Dunham clan that spawned obastard.


45 posted on 10/16/2012 8:36:28 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: RummyChick
What Hillary has done is hand Mitt a baseball bat, turned him in the direction of the giant Obama pinata on stage tonight and said, "Have at [it] buddy. Maybe I'll see you in four years".

LOVE that metaphor!

46 posted on 10/16/2012 8:37:52 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: RummyChick
I haven't not heard anything about that, so many rumors. I believe that Romney, given the chance will approach the issue.

Then maybe he will wait until Obama and Hillary sink their boat a little more, wait to see what Congressional Hearings may discover, etc.etc.etc........then in the last DEBATE Romney will tackle this head on with FACTS.

Issa, Chaffetz, and Gowdy et al., are not through with this and will not let it slide into oblivion.

47 posted on 10/16/2012 8:38:56 AM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Sequoyah101

The entire administration has been slowly twisting in the wind through this whole coverup issue, every day another cut in their credibility. But Hillary ended her own torment with this announcement. Now she took responsibility for a portion of it, not the coverup of course. She’s inoculated herself against every new disclosure. She took her hit, now her name will be removed from all future coverage of this and Obama and the rest will continue to twist over the coverup part. Good move on her part.


48 posted on 10/16/2012 8:40:01 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RummyChick

Hillary is the latest “bump in the road” for Barry’s Hope and Change Express bus.


49 posted on 10/16/2012 8:46:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (This is America! Being dead is no excuse not to vote!!!)
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To: RummyChick

If Romney handles any Bengazi question as described by this blogger, it will be the closest thing to a checkmate we’ve seen. Here’s hoping.


50 posted on 10/16/2012 8:51:24 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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